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Old 09-26-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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Obama is making McCain look like a 5th grader

McCain has nothing to say besides pushing his "patriotic" agenda...
Jesus Christ... what a tool...

God save us all from this idiot.
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Obama is not saying much of worth either.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:04 PM   #3
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Obama is not saying much of worth either.
Well I guess he has something in common with you then, eh?.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:04 PM   #4
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Well I guess he has something in common with you then, eh?.
Im not running for president of the United States. I am on a porn forum in the "fucking around" section
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:15 PM   #5
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Obama is not saying much of worth either.
what do you want him to say?
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:21 PM   #6
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Obama is not saying much of worth either.
True, & he just got owned big time on a miss-quote.

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Old 09-26-2008, 10:55 PM   #7
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It doesn't mean anything. I remember thinking the same thing between the Kery and Bush debate, but the public just didn't see it You never know...........
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:08 PM   #8
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BINGO

Now if we could just get this concept across to some of the snobs around here ...
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McCain has nothing to say besides pushing his "patriotic" agenda...
Jesus Christ... what a tool...

God save us all from this idiot.
I agree, but just like Bush became President, Politics will take play here and McCain will win. Fishy Politics.
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they seem to treat everyone like they are in 5th grade, especially the Bush brood .... I guess that is the mentality of the average voter and it's obviously worked very well.

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Most people in this country have the intelligence of a 5th grader..


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Old 09-26-2008, 11:27 PM   #12
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I agree, but just like Bush became President, Politics will take play here and McCain will win. Fishy Politics.
I hope not.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:30 AM   #14
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:12 AM   #15
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Oh God McCain is so old and grumpy and is blaming everyone else besides himself and Bush for all the bullshit. He's the king of the blame game and has nothing good and positive to say about the future.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:54 AM   #17
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Oh God McCain is so old and grumpy and is blaming everyone else besides himself and Bush for all the bullshit. He's the king of the blame game and has nothing good and positive to say about the future.
Its funny to hear people continually link McCain with Bush. It's effective though as seen by all the people who repeat this Dem talking point on here. You might start to believe that Bush and McCain are actually friends. Its well known that McCain and Bush don't like each other. The right wing of the Republican party doesn't even like him.

McCain is the type of politician that will stick his finger in your eye no matter what side you're on if he doesn't agree with what you're saying. Obama is the type of politician that would drop to his knees and start sucking to curry favor; if he agreed with you or not.

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Old 09-27-2008, 05:58 AM   #18
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:59 AM   #19
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Its funny to hear people continually link McCain with Bush. It's effective though as seen by all the people who repeat this Dem talking point on here. You might start to believe that Bush and McCain are actually friends. Its well known that McCain and Bush don't like each other. The right wing of the Republican party doesn't even like him.

McCain is the type of politician that will stick his finger in your eye no matter what side you're on if he doesn't agree with what you're saying. Obama is the type of politician that would drop to his knees and start sucking to curry favor; if he agreed with you or not.
Fact Check: Does McCain almost always agree with Bush?

The Statement:

At a presidential debate Friday, September 26, in Oxford, Mississippi, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama attempted to tie Republican opponent Sen. John McCain to President Bush. "John, it's been your president, who you said you agreed with 90 percent of the time, who presided over this increase in spending," he said.

Get the facts!

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According to an analysis by Congressional Quarterly, McCain has voted for bills favored by President Bush 90 percent of the time. The nonpartisan publication, which has analyzed voting by members of Congress since 1953, said the report took into account all legislation that Bush had taken a clear position on. It spans from the beginning of Bush's term to Congress's recess in August.

In the 100-member Senate, 14 current members ? all Republicans ? voted with Bush more than 90 percent of the time, according to the report. Six others have a 90 percent rating like McCain's. The report shows Obama voting with Bush 40 percent of the time and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, voting with Bush 52 percent of the time during the course of his presidency.

Obama surrogates also frequently say McCain voted with Bush 95 percent of the time. This is a reference to the Republican senator's record in 2007. That was the highest percentage in the seven years studied. In 2005, McCain voted with Bush 77 percent of the time ? his lowest percentage in those years. "The president and I agree on most issues," McCain said in a May 22, 2003 interview on Fox's "Your World with Neil Cavuto." "There was a recent study that showed that I voted with the president over 90 percent of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues."

Verdict: True

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That's why FOX played this show right before the debate. They were warming up their audience.

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Old 09-27-2008, 08:46 AM   #21
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Fact Check: Does McCain almost always agree with Bush?

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At a presidential debate Friday, September 26, in Oxford, Mississippi, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama attempted to tie Republican opponent Sen. John McCain to President Bush. "John, it's been your president, who you said you agreed with 90 percent of the time, who presided over this increase in spending," he said.

Get the facts!

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According to an analysis by Congressional Quarterly, McCain has voted for bills favored by President Bush 90 percent of the time. The nonpartisan publication, which has analyzed voting by members of Congress since 1953, said the report took into account all legislation that Bush had taken a clear position on. It spans from the beginning of Bush's term to Congress's recess in August.

In the 100-member Senate, 14 current members — all Republicans — voted with Bush more than 90 percent of the time, according to the report. Six others have a 90 percent rating like McCain's. The report shows Obama voting with Bush 40 percent of the time and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, voting with Bush 52 percent of the time during the course of his presidency.

Obama surrogates also frequently say McCain voted with Bush 95 percent of the time. This is a reference to the Republican senator's record in 2007. That was the highest percentage in the seven years studied. In 2005, McCain voted with Bush 77 percent of the time — his lowest percentage in those years. "The president and I agree on most issues," McCain said in a May 22, 2003 interview on Fox's "Your World with Neil Cavuto." "There was a recent study that showed that I voted with the president over 90 percent of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues."

Verdict: True

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Oh my, he voted along party lines. Obama would never do such a thing.

I could frame all kinds of questions that would make Obama look bad. I could connect him with terrorists, card carrying commies, racists, you name it.

I could link archived news articles all day long where McCain and Bush show their dislike for each other. I'll leave you to find them for yourself if you want; it's really not all that hard.

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Oh my, he voted along party lines. Obama would never do such a thing.

I could frame all kinds of questions that would make Obama look bad. I could connect him with terrorists, card carrying commies, racists, you name it.

I could link archived news articles all day long where McCain and Bush show their dislike for each other. I'll leave you to find them for yourself if you want; it's really not all that hard.
Nice spin attempt... but you FAIL. The point is that McCain says he is a "Maverick". Voting along party lines 90% of the time doesn't make him a Maverick... Ron Paul is a Maverick... McCain is a yes man.
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Obama is indeed a good speaker. huhhhh i think that's it
he probably dont write his Own speech either
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Nice spin attempt... but you FAIL. . The point is that McCain says he is a "Maverick". Voting along party lines 90% of the time doesn't make him a Maverick... Ron Paul is a Maverick... McCain is a yes man.


He could have used an Obama tactic and not voted either way.

As you will see Bush and McCain just love each other
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The campaign-finance victory was only the beginning

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McCain's office, in one of Phoenix's countless business complexes, is a surprisingly modest room decorated in a calculatedly plain manner. Before an old wooden desk sit two ordinary-looking wooden chairs. Here he discusses the piece of legislation that has become an obsession in his last six years: McCain-Feingold. The bill, passed by the Senate, bans the unlimited "soft" money individuals and organizations can contribute to political parties and allows only "hard" money, capped at $2,000 per individual. The bill also requires the disclosure of contributors to so-called issue ads that run sixty days or less prior to Election Day. How did he pass a bill, opposed by much of his own party, that he has been trying to pass for so long?

"There was a combination of factors, including good luck," McCain says. "Napoleon said you make your own luck; still, timing was fortunate. The fact that [Senate Minority Leader] Tom Daschle held the Democrats — if there's an unsung hero, it's Tom Daschle. The pressure from the presidential campaign also helped. There was also a desire on the part of the Republican leadership to get this thing off the table, because we had made it clear we were going to keep coming back and coming back." McCain pauses. "Oh, one other factor," he continues. "Denise Rich. There was the appearance of a pardon being bought. When people heard about a million dollars going to the DNC, they thought there was a connection. By the way, I don't know if there was a connection — I don't know if I'll ever know — but the appearance was very critical."

House Majority Whip Tom DeLay has been adamant that he will kill McCain's bill — a fortunate development for the Bush forces, since, according to McCain chief of staff Mark Salter, "the White House would be very happy if the bill never came to the president." But DeLay doesn't have to kill the House version of McCain-Feingold, known as Shays-Meehan; all he has to do is alter it enough for the bill to end up in conference. Many times, bills remain in conference so long, they end up dying. "If McCain-Feingold goes to conference and the Republicans try to screw it up," McCain warns, "we'll just shut down the Senate again. I mean, look, I'm not going to let it sit in conference." Once the bill passes both the House and the Senate, it will go to President Bush to be signed into law. Will Bush sign a bill about which he has expressed ambivalence? "I hope so," McCain says, "but he's been very unclear about that. He said he'd like to have a bill he could sign, but he's not said if this one is it or not."

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"Of course, John McCain is hurting Bush," says one Republican. "After the primaries, the Bush people all said, 'We hate John McCain.' Anyone for John McCain was on the Bush hit list. McCain has just used that as fuel for the fire. He said, 'OK, I'll get you good.' And that's what he's doing. I mean, Bush will be forced to sign that damn thing" — McCain-Feingold — "which he doesn't want to do."

Maybe you can come up with old archived new stories where Obama is battling with Democratic leadership well at the same time working with the Republicans. I'd appreciate it.

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