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Old 10-01-2008, 08:52 AM   #1
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Which tube script (available for purchase) do you find most scalable?

I highly suggested a custom script to a client of mine....but he wants it yesterday. So I'm open to suggestions.

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1 : capable of being scaled 2 : capable of being easily expanded or upgraded on demand <a scalable computer network>
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:54 AM   #2
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those of you "closet" tubers, feel free to drop me the tip on icq

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forget the rest, go with the best > TEVS
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STXT is scalable..

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TEVS is not suitable for your needs pr0.
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If handling shitloads of traffic is key mine does it VERY well, I got stuck working for others all summer long but I'm digging in deep to develop my script again... polishing off a bugfix release right now before I roll out some addons and other things...

TEVS and STXT are great options if you're looking for automated content but neither are really for people that want to RUN a site...
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I highly suggested a custom script to a client of mine....but he wants it yesterday. So I'm open to suggestions.

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1 : capable of being scaled 2 : capable of being easily expanded or upgraded on demand <a scalable computer network>
I can do turnaround in 2-3 days if you can get a server and a design that fast. Largest site running my software is pushing i believe 7 or 8gbits.
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TEVS and STXT are great options if you're looking for automated content but neither are really for people that want to RUN a site...
Uh what? what do you mean by that?
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Uh what? what do you mean by that?
Godsmack, he write another tube script and feels that he should put us down to comfort himself about his own product.
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Godsmack, he write another tube script and feels that he should put us down to comfort himself about his own product.
Thats his version of reverse marketing i guess
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Uh what? what do you mean by that?
What I mean is neither script is for the "classic tube" webmaster.. You guys have that automated content which seems to be wanted by more people. If somebody wants to run a REAL tube there's a half dozen better scripts out there...

I haven't pushed anybody towards my script in what like 6mnths? shit there's plenty of scripts better than mine to run "real tubes" I haven't had any time to work on mine in MONTHS. I'm dropping the price down this weekend once I get done overhauling some things.

Hell I've spent more time coding some of my coming up addons for OTHER scripts than I've spent working on my script this past week.

I'll even go as far as saying DONT buy my script until like next week sometime ;)

If you don't want to really work on a site TEVS is badass and honestly I haven't spent much time with godsmacks yet (not nearly the customer base of TEVS).
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I challenge anybody to find a tube script with better features than http://www.mediascripts.com/social_features.html
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I agree with those saying tevs sucks it is one of the most boring tube scripts out there, theres basically no interaction your not going ot build a community site using it or anywhere near.

Although it would work for automated stuff and those who like having the exact same videos and descriptions as a thousand other sites, but i havent seen a big site using tevs yet.
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I thinking about buying STTXT for creating combo of mgp/tube/text site
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I thinking about buying STTXT for creating combo of mgp/tube/text site
If you're only "thinking" about doing something. It's probably not a good idea.

When a brilliant idea strikes, people just DO IT.
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I agree with those saying tevs sucks it is one of the most boring tube scripts out there, theres basically no interaction your not going ot build a community site using it or anywhere near.

Although it would work for automated stuff and those who like having the exact same videos and descriptions as a thousand other sites, but i havent seen a big site using tevs yet.
thats a pretty general consensus... If you want automated content and a site you basically don't do any work on TEVS is GREAT but it is missing too many REAL TUBE features.

From the people I've talked to TEVS actually scales very badly which is the main focus of this thread.

Social media is extremely feature packed and I agree you'll be searching LONG and hard to find a script that compares in features BUT it scales worse than about any script I've seen.

There simply is NOT a "vbulletin" of the tube scripts... No clear leader in like every category. If you want automated content TEVS and STTXT are the clear winners. My script has SOME auto content but its down around like 5-7k videos right now which can't compare.

where's sortie? shocked he isn't trying to convince us perl will scale the best ;)

My V1.6 release was buggy as hell as I tried to redo too many CORE components. i fixed most of those bugs but seriously don't buy mine and plan to roll until after 1.6.1 is official (hopefully monday at the latest).

Depending on exactly what the client is looking for will determine what script you should get. If you're planning on expanding actual features of the script you're going to want to have an UNENCODED script.

As a normal tube I believe mine will handle more traffic than anything short of some very expensive scripts. I have query caching in place just about everywhere possible. When configured properly seriously good luck finding a script using less CPU than mine. Mine is currently buggier than I'd want for a truly large site but I'm hoping to hammer that out this weekend.

pr0 I sent you an ICQ message last night, hit me up if you wanna tell me a bit more of what you're looking for... I could possibly mod some other scripts to add in some advanced caching if you wanna go with another script but want it to scale better...
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I agree with those saying tevs sucks it is one of the most boring tube scripts out there, theres basically no interaction your not going ot build a community site using it or anywhere near.

Although it would work for automated stuff and those who like having the exact same videos and descriptions as a thousand other sites, but i havent seen a big site using tevs yet.
I would like to answer this here.
The reason why I never built any "user" interface is because that's exactly what these sites don't need. I do not see any reasons why people should take submissions (uploaded videos). Do surfers have the rights to upload the content that's not their? NO! they don't.

But due to the number of illegal sites like redtube, pornhub etc, everyone things it's ok to do aswell. Well it's not!

Let's get serious for a moment. We're in this industry to make money and promote the sponsors that provide us with the content for these tube sites. By taking submissions you don't know who the owner of the content is, so how do you know the 2257? or don't you care about that anymore?

I'm taking a stand by helping the sponsors control this massive outbreak of illegal sites. From the webmasters I have talked to, they make good money from TEVS sites. Good traffic from google and other search engines.

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Check out http://www.booble.com/tube
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where's sortie? shocked he isn't trying to convince us perl will scale the best ;)



I realize that I can't convince anyone of anything.
People are making what ever choice they feel works for them.

I think my latest upgrade to tubecgi is far better and will go a lot farther than
my previous versions but I don't have the means to test it on huge traffic.

So all I can say on this subject is that tubecgi does not use Mysql and therefore
does not have to deal with the scaling issues of the mysql database.
Webmasters will have to determine if that is an advantage or not.
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you guys need to stop arguing about your $300 cookie cutter scripts in my thread

my clients looking for a fully customizable tube/community script that can handle a million hits a day

thanks
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I would like to answer this here.
The reason why I never built any "user" interface is because that's exactly what these sites don't need. I do not see any reasons why people should take submissions (uploaded videos). Do surfers have the rights to upload the content that's not their? NO! they don't.
That was some of my thinking about my original tubescript but I added user submission
and upload and convert to flv and flv player because people said that's what makes
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The webmasters can disable all those things in my script so it's up to them what they
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you guys need to stop arguing about your $300 cookie cutter scripts in my thread

my clients looking for a fully customizable tube/community script that can handle a million hits a day

thanks
short of a couple in the $600+ range nothing like that exists.. Even those couple up there in pricerange nobody really knows that much about because not many people are using them.

At this point You can choose 2 at most...

Easy to add content
Easy on the server
Community tools
Easy to customize

If you have a set list of features you're looking for I can probably make you a custom variation of mine.
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short of a couple in the $600+ range nothing like that exists.. Even those couple up there in pricerange nobody really knows that much about because not many people are using them.

At this point You can choose 2 at most...

Easy to add content
Easy on the server
Community tools
Easy to customize

If you have a set list of features you're looking for I can probably make you a custom variation of mine.
My client is looking to spend 1k+ minimum on a REAL SOLUTION.

Outside of konrad's stuff I've yet to see anyone on gfy offer a real solution.
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Social media is extremely feature packed and I agree you'll be searching LONG and hard to find a script that compares in features BUT it scales worse than about any script I've seen.
You're wrong there i run there scripts on xxx,xxx/day sites no problem taking hundreds of uploads a day, thousands of users online no problem. You also have the ability to add servers through the script, you can add a media server, a mysql etc, you wont find many scripts with that.

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I would like to answer this here.
The reason why I never built any "user" interface is because that's exactly what these sites don't need. I do not see any reasons why people should take submissions (uploaded videos). Do surfers have the rights to upload the content that's not their? NO! they don't.

But due to the number of illegal sites like redtube, pornhub etc, everyone things it's ok to do aswell. Well it's not!

Let's get serious for a moment. We're in this industry to make money and promote the sponsors that provide us with the content for these tube sites. By taking submissions you don't know who the owner of the content is, so how do you know the 2257? or don't you care about that anymore?

I'm taking a stand by helping the sponsors control this massive outbreak of illegal sites. From the webmasters I have talked to, they make good money from TEVS sites. Good traffic from google and other search engines.



Check out http://www.booble.com/tube
Its not just about taking user uploads, social media beats TEVS on features about 100 to 1. Even forgetting uploads it offers users a hell of a lot to do, just the features available on there profiles is more than tevs has altogether.
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My client is looking to spend 1k+ minimum on a REAL SOLUTION.

Outside of konrad's stuff I've yet to see anyone on gfy offer a real solution.
I don't think the real solution(for 1 million hits/day) comes in a box.

I think the real solution is to have a programmer that can adjust things as you grow.

Youtube is still working on it's script, so it seems like anyone trying to grow that
huge is going to do the same.
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You're wrong there i run there scripts on xxx,xxx/day sites no problem taking hundreds of uploads a day, thousands of users online no problem. You also have the ability to add servers through the script, you can add a media server, a mysql etc, you wont find many scripts with that.



Its not just about taking user uploads, social media beats TEVS on features about 100 to 1. Even forgetting uploads it offers users a hell of a lot to do, just the features available on there profiles is more than tevs has altogether.
scaling isn't just about the ability to add servers... Absolutely it makes it easy to throw more servers at it. Scaling is also about not NEEDING more servers. It is a resource hog of a script but once traffic gets into those levels no matter what you do you end up on multiple servers.

How much are you spending on servers? Hire me to build some caching for it and I'd bet we could drastically reduce your server costs.. hell find like even 1 more person to help "fund" the project and I could probably hammer out some significant power savings in under 2wks. The script is extremely powerfull BUT like I've said it'd a resource hog.
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Its not just about taking user uploads, social media beats TEVS on features about 100 to 1. Even forgetting uploads it offers users a hell of a lot to do, just the features available on there profiles is more than tevs has altogether.
Why are you trying to compair TEVS to a social network script? That just don't make any sence to me why you would even say that. TEVS is not a social network script. It's to promote PORN, not to make new friends.

Sorry pr0. Hope you find the script you need.
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My client is looking to spend 1k+ minimum on a REAL SOLUTION.

Outside of konrad's stuff I've yet to see anyone on gfy offer a real solution.
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I don't think the real solution(for 1 million hits/day) comes in a box.

I think the real solution is to have a programmer that can adjust things as you grow.

Youtube is still working on it's script, so it seems like anyone trying to grow that
huge is going to do the same.
sortie is absolutely right, what you want doesn't come in a box at ANY price... I'll hit you up on ICQ and if you have a design in place and know exactly what features you NEED to launch I can tailor something together but obviously with high traffic levels you NEED somebody basically on payroll to keep tuning things. Places like youtube and myspace have armies of programmers and server guys tweaking things all the time.

Basically you want to offload encoding to a different box. (maybe not at first but once you get rolling)
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Why are you trying to compair TEVS to a social network script?
All of the most successful tube sites on earth mix video with social interaction.

Therefor most people expect to have those features with their script.

Otherwise all you have is a MGP using flash instead of mpeg/wmv.
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Why are you trying to compair TEVS to a social network script? That just don't make any sence to me why you would even say that. TEVS is not a social network script. It's to promote PORN, not to make new friends.

Sorry pr0. Hope you find the script you need.
Dont push your script as a "tube" script then, push it as an automated video script because thats what it is. Incase you didnt know tube comes from youtube and generally means having the same or similar features, people expect a tube site to be a community site.
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we made STXT by popular demand.. we tried to create a script that fills the need of most people wanting to run a "tube"

We are aware we don't offer community type features, but this is for good reason..one of the reasons is that only about 1 out of 100 wanted it..We don't want to over-engineer our product with stuff people don't really want..
We tried to fill a gap in the market which seems to work out great
We are at version 1 so a lot can still be added when market demands it..

I am not here to flame any other "tube" script as it is non marketing..
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I realize that I can't convince anyone of anything.
People are making what ever choice they feel works for them.

I think my latest upgrade to tubecgi is far better and will go a lot farther than
my previous versions but I don't have the means to test it on huge traffic.

So all I can say on this subject is that tubecgi does not use Mysql and therefore
does not have to deal with the scaling issues of the mysql database.
Webmasters will have to determine if that is an advantage or not.
If I remember right your system ended up having at least one really large file which you had to process and rehash with like every pageload. This type of environment would in fact be faster as long as the file is relatively small. If you have a large file being opened and processed constantly it'll be slower and only get worse as traffic grows. I know nothing of your revisions and its been a good 6mnths since I've been through your system. As a former perl programmer myself I understand there are MANY things perl can do that far exceed what PHP is capable of. On sites with less content I believe yours is very fast. Most servers don't even have many of the tweaks to make perl run faster... These days everybody has something like zend optimizer to help PHP run faster.

What I do with mine is I actually cache many of the "common queries" into the filesystem. When I was looking over your perl code I was actually shocked with some of the shit you managed to make it do... but I just don't think the market is prepared for something like this. If it was the same price and used PHP you'd probably sell triple simply because the market will not ever really understand WTF perl is.
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we made STXT by popular demand.. we tried to create a script that fills the need of most people wanting to run a "tube"

We are aware we don't offer community type features, but this is for good reason..one of the reasons is that only about 1 out of 100 wanted it..We don't want to over-engineer our product with stuff people don't really want..
We tried to fill a gap in the market which seems to work out great
We are at version 1 so a lot can still be added when market demands it..

I am not here to flame any other "tube" script as it is non marketing..
you're right in this, I believe there are probably more people on THIS site wanting to do these sponsored content type sites. It is a good NICHE but like some others have said in the past... Probably shouldn't even be called "tubes" They are some damn slick MGP systems though. I get requests for supporting more sponsored content all the time so eventually I'll make my way over there with some addons
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Right now we are building tube sites using our VOD software. First of all our software is ASP.NET / C# which some like and some dont plus its not one of those 49.95 solution

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All of the most successful tube sites on earth mix video with social interaction.

Therefor most people expect to have those features with their script.

Otherwise all you have is a MGP using flash instead of mpeg/wmv.
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All of the most successful tube sites on earth mix video with social interaction.

Therefor most people expect to have those features with their script.

Otherwise all you have is a MGP using flash instead of mpeg/wmv.
thats what i was thinking. those people earlier in the thread posted a good example of what a script needs to be.
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I'm going out for a bit. When i get back i hope to see a couple more "tube" scripts listed. Please don't list anymore flash-mgp scripts.
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If I remember right your system ended up having at least one really large file which you had to process and rehash with like every pageload. This type of environment would in fact be faster as long as the file is relatively small. If you have a large file being opened and processed constantly it'll be slower and only get worse as traffic grows. I know nothing of your revisions and its been a good 6mnths since I've been through your system. As a former perl programmer myself I understand there are MANY things perl can do that far exceed what PHP is capable of. On sites with less content I believe yours is very fast. Most servers don't even have many of the tweaks to make perl run faster... These days everybody has something like zend optimizer to help PHP run faster.

What I do with mine is I actually cache many of the "common queries" into the filesystem. When I was looking over your perl code I was actually shocked with some of the shit you managed to make it do... but I just don't think the market is prepared for something like this. If it was the same price and used PHP you'd probably sell triple simply because the market will not ever really understand WTF perl is.
That wasn't really the issue but it's all been changed now.
Tubecgi is fast as lightning now, even on the crapiest of servers.

I reconstructed the entire functionality of the script.

Some people might not understand what perl is, but so be it.
I'm using the script myself and want the ability to expand the script in any direction.
So perl is my choice.

What are some big tube sites that use PHP scripts?
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www.redtube.com
www.tube8.com
www.youjizz.com
www.jizzhut.com

I'm not arguing whether or not perl is faster then php, but I dont know of any big tube sites written in perl.
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when you talk about a social community site, uploading isn't really the important thing, is it? commenting and voting for example should be some of the important things


when it comes to adult content, allowing uploading basically means piracy which is something that we all should be fighting against
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That wasn't really the issue but it's all been changed now.
Tubecgi is fast as lightning now, even on the crapiest of servers.

I reconstructed the entire functionality of the script.

Some people might not understand what perl is, but so be it.
I'm using the script myself and want the ability to expand the script in any direction.
So perl is my choice.

What are some big tube sites that use PHP scripts?
I hear all the "big ballers" use tubecgi.

I know all my clients are stoked about 2% of their clicks going to chokertraffic. They call me up 24-7 trying to get a copy....but i guess you are so flooded with orders, they can never get support.

Hopefully one day my clients will be big enough to use your product.
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we made STXT by popular demand.. we tried to create a script that fills the need of most people wanting to run a "tube"

We are aware we don't offer community type features, but this is for good reason..one of the reasons is that only about 1 out of 100 wanted it..We don't want to over-engineer our product with stuff people don't really want..
We tried to fill a gap in the market which seems to work out great
We are at version 1 so a lot can still be added when market demands it..

I am not here to flame any other "tube" script as it is non marketing..
Is it only possible to import videos from sponsors your company has added? What if we want to add in our own videos to promote our own sites also? Is it possible?
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Easy to mod, but there is a lot of things coded poorly in it that I've had to change. The php is decent, but database optimization is lacking.
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