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Old 10-03-2008, 07:12 PM   #1
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Martial Law declared 9/27 before bailout on floor

Just watched this youtube video.. Apparently congressional martial law was declared prior to the bailout bill being put on the floor for voting.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=B0pTizzR7hE


There's others out there of reps stating they were threated with America being placed under military martial law if the bailout was not passed
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:21 PM   #3
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Hmm... well, that would be one way to swing a vote, I guess.
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in what way is congressional martial law different from
garden variety martial law?
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According to the info on that youtube page, it says this

"Under the Martial Law procedure, longstanding House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation, and the House floor vote on that legislation — so that Members can learn what they are being asked to vote on — are swept away. Instead, under 'Martial Law,' the Leadership can file legislation with tens or hundreds of pages of fine print and move immediately to debate and votes on it, before Members of Congress, the media, or the public have an opportunity to understand what provisions have been altered or inserted into the legislation behind closed doors. This procedure diminishes democracy."

I couldn't quickly and easily find something to confirm this info.
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According to the info on that youtube page, it says this

"Under the Martial Law procedure, longstanding House rules that require at least one day between the unveiling of significant legislation, and the House floor vote on that legislation ? so that Members can learn what they are being asked to vote on ? are swept away. Instead, under 'Martial Law,' the Leadership can file legislation with tens or hundreds of pages of fine print and move immediately to debate and votes on it, before Members of Congress, the media, or the public have an opportunity to understand what provisions have been altered or inserted into the legislation behind closed doors. This procedure diminishes democracy."

I couldn't quickly and easily find something to confirm this info.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:15 PM   #11
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I think it was a figure of speech that they are being pushed to vote on that bill .
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:27 PM   #12
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I think it was a figure of speech that they are being pushed to vote on that bill .
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mKBS3nLA91E
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #13
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I smoke crack rocks... Even quicker when it is martial law time.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:21 PM   #14
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That Michael Burgess guy seems like one of the "good" politicians. You know, the really rare ones who remember that he's there to serve the people of the US.
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That Michael Burgess guy seems like one of the "good" politicians. You know, the really rare ones who remember that he's there to serve the people of the US.
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You see why I mentioned the "rex 84" camps in a previous thread a couple of days ago? Also notice that neither the Mccain campaign or the Obama campaign has condemned the scare tactics. You still think it matters who you vote for?
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You see why I mentioned the "rex 84" camps in a previous thread a couple of days ago? Also notice that neither the Mccain campaign or the Obama campaign has condemned the scare tactics. You still think it matters who you vote for?
Are you saying it wouldn't have mattered if 1-2k more people in a state of millions(florida) voted for gore or nader in 2000 it wouldn't have mattered? That election was decided by less than 1000 people.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:02 AM   #18
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Are you saying it wouldn't have mattered if 1-2k more people in a state of millions(florida) voted for gore or nader in 2000 it wouldn't have mattered? That election was decided by less than 1000 people.
I'm saying that the big issues: bailouts, wars etc., will happen no matter which administration is in charge. They're puppets... Only the little things will differ
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I'm saying that the big issues: bailouts, wars etc., will happen no matter which administration is in charge. They're puppets... Only the little things will differ
You think we'd be in Iraq if Gore won? O_o
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:24 AM   #20
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You see why I mentioned the "rex 84" camps in a previous thread a couple of days ago? Also notice that neither the Mccain campaign or the Obama campaign has condemned the scare tactics. You still think it matters who you vote for?
Interesting you mention Rex 84.. I've been researching that along with Operation Garden Plot for the last several hours along with various presidential directives

https://youtube.com/watch?v=71vXVg1XLV4


https://youtube.com/watch?v=7CXPtmvdWDo


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Pfft, the Dems said the Exact something when the table was turned. He was of course referencing the fact that they blocked him out of the meetings as being the Gov has over taken. But the guy as an ass hat bitching on a weekend that he didn't get to read the "rough" draft on a Saturday that was done on a Friday night.

Calm down, put your guns away, It's just a Republican being a little bitch.
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dude im always for calling someone a tin foil hat wearing asshole. but jesus how long does this shit have to go on for you idiots to open your eyes and see that it isn't a joke anymore?

what do they have to do? lock down your fucking city, give you curfews, and make you eat their shit stew food?

last time i looked the economy hasn't been this bad in 60 years, gas is at its highest level ever, forclosures through the roof, debt is a huge problem, etc... whatever though keep busting out your tin foil hat pictures just because that dollar you have in your pocket is still worth half of what it used to be.
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I guess it's time for these?
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what do they have to do? lock down your fucking city, give you curfews, and make you eat their shit stew food?
even then those people would say they are being well taken care of and that these policies are in their best interest in the name of "security."
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I saw that video when it was posted on infowars I think the US public needs to wake up to the fact your government is about to royally fuck you all, needless to say its no better here in the UK.
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Haha, blind Americans, public wake up, sheep we are... funny stuff...going to need a lot more tin foil here.

I now know some of you lack serious education, basic schooling and such. I can understand the International people, but the Americans saying this trash simply proves how little knowledge you have of the Gov inner workings.

At the most basic level, a committee that had bankers and lobbyists on it and worked for the senate has 100% zero power to every possibly invoke martial law.

Think people, the guy is just being a prick on a Weekend that he didn't get to see a "rough draft of a draft" from Friday night and he didn't get to help make it. He wasn't part of the assigned committee, amazing, and he is pissed about it and has 1 minute to say anything he wants about anything and this was the gay ass topic he bitched about.
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