Disappearing Sales in your Stats? - GoFuckYourself.com

cherrylula · 10-08-2008, 10:09 AM

I can't stand it when I see a sale, especially a nice $45 sale I was not expecting, and then a couple days later it has disappeared.

fucking aggravating.

why the hell does this happen?

I don't like errors and glitches like this, not cool and not good.

cherrylula · 10-08-2008, 10:15 AM

... I just noticed another thread about this, so let me add I am not talking about AFF stats. lol

danayster · 10-08-2008, 10:18 AM

haha I was actually going to say exactly that. I started the other thread. You should contact your affiliate manager though. When this has happened to me with AFF, they did it on purpose saying "I had too many chargebacks, returns" so they were holding some of my pay until I brought up my numbers.. I said, ohh yea.. ok, then retaliated with a promotional program so large it won me a top 10 spot in the Penthouse competition this past quarter.

Now they like me again.

By the way, is there a thread about that already? Those who are waiting for the results of the contest? I haven't seen it.

BradM · 10-08-2008, 10:19 AM

It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

rowan · 10-08-2008, 10:22 AM

Could be a stats system that quietly removes the sale in some circumstances (eg a bounced check) rather than showing it as two transactions.

cherrylula · 10-08-2008, 10:26 AM

yeah I emailed them, what a drag to deal with though.

klinton · 10-08-2008, 10:27 AM

which sponsor or you are discreet

?

cherrylula · 10-08-2008, 10:29 AM

yeah I don't want to throw their name around in here... hopefully this will be explained at least.

I don't send them much traffic anymore though, and probably will even less if my sale doesn't come back.

Indecent · 10-08-2008, 10:30 AM

I believe NATS will auto-remove transactions that didn't fully process (checks I guess) or if they chargeback.

Wiredoctor · 10-08-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

BINGO we have a winner !!! any sponsor that says thats not true is full of shit plain and simple.

cherrylula · 10-08-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Indecent

I believe NATS will auto-remove transactions that didn't fully process (checks I guess) or if they chargeback.

that's pretty dumb.

Why not wait til they clear for them to show up, but I realize it happens.

CunningStunt · 10-08-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

that's pretty dumb.

Why not wait til they clear for them to show up, but I realize it happens.

Exactly. Don't even show the sale until the money has come in.

It could be a chargeback, or shaving. I had the same thing a few week's back when a sale mysteriously disappeared, and what would you know, the next week I had a whole bunch of new sales without doing anything different.

Just ditch programs you don't trust and move on, there's plenty of good sponsors out there who treat you properly.

CaptainHowdy · 10-08-2008, 02:14 PM

Maybe sales are devaluating?

xsabn · 10-08-2008, 02:17 PM

i have the exact problem with an webcam sponsor of mine

ChargebackJoe · 10-08-2008, 02:18 PM

i've noticed that too lately with more than one sponsor

shark laser · 10-08-2008, 04:14 PM

i remember a long time ago seeing a thread where a sponsor would adjust its 'shaving' depending on rebills/retention on affiliates sales on PPS...

Kick Ass Chat · 10-12-2008, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

BINGO !!!!

marko13 · 10-12-2008, 03:25 AM

maybe that is new wm tool to send more and more traffic.... they make like you have sales... and you put other links to that sponsor and after that bam and you are shaved like ... you know like ehat....

Matyko · 10-12-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

Could be a stats system that quietly removes the sale in some circumstances (eg a bounced check) rather than showing it as two transactions.

In last 2 months I've had 2 big revshare sales with fake checks and its very very annoying to wake up and see a huge -$99,97 on your nifty stats balance...

Forbid checks, use only CC or I dunno ...

cherrylula · 10-12-2008, 06:41 AM

ugh... alright since I see my thread bumped and I did end up getting a response, I suppose I should post it here...

I really don't know what to say about the reason I got, maybe someone who knows more can assure me that everything is okay.

and I still don't feel like mentioning the company.

but when inquiring about the missing money, I was told it was a bonus "added by our programmers by mistake due to launching a wrong filter script."

I know nothing about backend stats of programs and how they run, but that sounds like something that could happen?

A bonus added by mistake by a wrong filter script mistakingly launched. That was the reason my $45 disappeared, and my sales "didn't qualify."

so whatever, blame the programmer, I guess it happens... right?

Antonio · 10-12-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

ugh... alright since I see my thread bumped and I did end up getting a response, I suppose I should post it here...

I really don't know what to say about the reason I got, maybe someone who knows more can assure me that everything is okay.

and I still don't feel like mentioning the company.

but when inquiring about the missing money, I was told it was a bonus "added by our programmers by mistake due to launching a wrong filter script."

I know nothing about backend stats of programs and how they run, but that sounds like something that could happen?

A bonus added by mistake by a wrong filter script mistakingly launched. That was the reason my $45 disappeared, and my sales "didn't qualify."

so whatever, blame the programmer, I guess it happens... right?

the infamous "glitch response"

Pete-KT · 10-12-2008, 07:16 AM

Did you contact the company adn ask, I know in Our system when there is a chargeback or a NSF it shows it as that it doesnt just remove the sale, so that seems a little odd.

jovance · 10-12-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

... I just noticed another thread about this, so let me add I am not talking about AFF stats. lol

AFF is shaving??

RobertD · 10-12-2008, 07:18 AM

Several years ago I had one program in particular with signups disapearing from my stats. The owner of the program himself told me they were "ghost signups" and nothing for me to be worried about. I said "Ahh, ok thanks", hung up the phone, and immediately started pulling links. I never sent him a single click again, and I'll pull anything down that I find he's involved with. Shady fucker, his loss.

cherrylula · 10-12-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

the infamous "glitch response"

Well, they are running two promos right now, so it was due to this confusion I was told.

you really think that sounds like bullshit? anyone else?

I sooo can't stand this shit. Why would it be just a shave glitch? If they are going to shave, I don't see how they would just erase sales like that.

cherrylula · 10-12-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Did you contact the company adn ask, I know in Our system when there is a chargeback or a NSF it shows it as that it doesnt just remove the sale, so that seems a little odd.

yep yep, all this info is in the thread here... including the response I got. ^^

u-Bob · 10-12-2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

quoted cuz it's true.

Barefootsies · 10-12-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

Matyko · 10-12-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertD

Several years ago I had one program in particular with signups disapearing from my stats. The owner of the program himself told me they were "ghost signups" and nothing for me to be worried about. I said "Ahh, ok thanks", hung up the phone, and immediately started pulling links. I never sent him a single click again, and I'll pull anything down that I find he's involved with. Shady fucker, his loss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

cherrylula · 10-13-2008, 06:07 AM

oh well, I am moving on from this sponsor anyways... as I am able to anyhow.

pornjudge · 10-13-2008, 06:17 AM

This thread is worthless without naming names. Just name the fuckin crooks

Darkcrni · 10-13-2008, 06:33 AM

BIG BUMP for you!!!

blonda80 · 10-13-2008, 09:20 AM

bump .....

Rui · 10-13-2008, 09:29 AM

If you think thats bad think about having referrals that brought you quite a nice chunk of money on a regular basis... "disappear"

Could write a book about that..

ZeroHero · 10-13-2008, 09:32 AM

i love to see some answers

cherrylula · 10-13-2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

If you think thats bad think about having referrals that brought you quite a nice chunk of money on a regular basis... "disappear"

Could write a book about that..

funny you mention that, because this same program cut their referrals a few years ago, and we were making over 1k a month in referrals.... they changed it and said "get them to sign up under the new code" as their response to "what about my referral money??"

I should have pulled all links at that point, but did end up having more positive ($) experience with them after that, so I chump it up to even.

Now I know better... they SHOULD have kept paying me the money. Even if they dropped their %, they STILL should have kept paying me. To tell me that I should get this person who I had no idea who they are to sign up again under me was bullshit... they took my referral $$. I should have threatened with litigation.

never again, I am so tired of getting fucked by companies...

if they weren't a huge advertiser here I'd out them. But I have respect for GFY and their business so I will not. (and I don't want to get banned lol). I do like some of their employees, don't blame them, so I will pass on this one. grrrr

Why · 10-13-2008, 09:35 AM

this can be caused by credits and/or chargebacks.

Rui · 10-13-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

funny you mention that, because this same program cut their referrals a few years ago, and we were making over 1k a month in referrals.... they changed it and said "get them to sign up under the new code" as their response to "what about my referral money??"

I should have pulled all links at that point, but did end up having more positive ($) experience with them after that, so I chump it up to even.

Sounds way way too familiar, lets hope we are talking about the same companies and this is not "the norm"

Lamis · 10-13-2008, 12:05 PM

Which sponsor?

10-08-2008, 10:09 AM	#1
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Disappearing Sales in your Stats? I can't stand it when I see a sale, especially a nice $45 sale I was not expecting, and then a couple days later it has disappeared. fucking aggravating. why the hell does this happen? I don't like errors and glitches like this, not cool and not good.

10-08-2008, 10:18 AM	#3
danayster Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 152	haha I was actually going to say exactly that. I started the other thread. You should contact your affiliate manager though. When this has happened to me with AFF, they did it on purpose saying "I had too many chargebacks, returns" so they were holding some of my pay until I brought up my numbers.. I said, ohh yea.. ok, then retaliated with a promotional program so large it won me a top 10 spot in the Penthouse competition this past quarter. Now they like me again. By the way, is there a thread about that already? Those who are waiting for the results of the contest? I haven't seen it. __________________ 60k UV a day Trade Traffic contact: captainnaughty(at)naughtytube .net icq: 498 - 792 - 933

10-08-2008, 02:14 PM	#13
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10-08-2008, 02:18 PM	#15
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10-08-2008, 04:14 PM	#16
shark laser Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 205	i remember a long time ago seeing a thread where a sponsor would adjust its 'shaving' depending on rebills/retention on affiliates sales on PPS... __________________ contact (at) dancingonthehighway (dot) com

10-08-2008, 10:15 AM	#2
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	... I just noticed another thread about this, so let me add I am not talking about AFF stats. lol

10-08-2008, 10:19 AM	#4
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	It's called shaving, and they know what they are doing. Notifying them means you know and are watching so they have to come up with an excuse.

10-08-2008, 10:22 AM	#5
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Could be a stats system that quietly removes the sale in some circumstances (eg a bounced check) rather than showing it as two transactions.

10-08-2008, 10:26 AM	#6
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	yeah I emailed them, what a drag to deal with though.

10-08-2008, 10:27 AM	#7
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	which sponsor or you are discreet ?

10-08-2008, 10:29 AM	#8
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	yeah I don't want to throw their name around in here... hopefully this will be explained at least. I don't send them much traffic anymore though, and probably will even less if my sale doesn't come back.

10-08-2008, 10:30 AM	#9
Indecent Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 156	I believe NATS will auto-remove transactions that didn't fully process (checks I guess) or if they chargeback.

10-08-2008, 02:17 PM	#14
xsabn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 203-069-778 Posts: 2,815	i have the exact problem with an webcam sponsor of mine

10-12-2008, 03:25 AM	#18
marko13 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: www.lvpshosting.com Posts: 7,512	maybe that is new wm tool to send more and more traffic.... they make like you have sales... and you put other links to that sponsor and after that bam and you are shaved like ... you know like ehat.... __________________ We are responsible for your hosting ... Enjoy in your life. Shared hosting from $3.95 Europe Linux VPS plans from $11.37 http://www.LVPSHosting.com

10-12-2008, 06:41 AM	#20
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	ugh... alright since I see my thread bumped and I did end up getting a response, I suppose I should post it here... I really don't know what to say about the reason I got, maybe someone who knows more can assure me that everything is okay. and I still don't feel like mentioning the company. but when inquiring about the missing money, I was told it was a bonus "added by our programmers by mistake due to launching a wrong filter script." I know nothing about backend stats of programs and how they run, but that sounds like something that could happen? A bonus added by mistake by a wrong filter script mistakingly launched. That was the reason my $45 disappeared, and my sales "didn't qualify." so whatever, blame the programmer, I guess it happens... right?

10-12-2008, 07:16 AM	#22
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Did you contact the company adn ask, I know in Our system when there is a chargeback or a NSF it shows it as that it doesnt just remove the sale, so that seems a little odd.

10-12-2008, 07:18 AM	#24
RobertD Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 1,149	Several years ago I had one program in particular with signups disapearing from my stats. The owner of the program himself told me they were "ghost signups" and nothing for me to be worried about. I said "Ahh, ok thanks", hung up the phone, and immediately started pulling links. I never sent him a single click again, and I'll pull anything down that I find he's involved with. Shady fucker, his loss. __________________ Sexy Latinas

10-13-2008, 06:07 AM	#30
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	oh well, I am moving on from this sponsor anyways... as I am able to anyhow.

10-13-2008, 06:17 AM	#31
pornjudge So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upmywomansass Posts: 2,214	This thread is worthless without naming names. Just name the fuckin crooks

10-13-2008, 06:33 AM	#32
Darkcrni Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Right Around The Corner Posts: 1,704	BIG BUMP for you!!!

10-13-2008, 09:20 AM	#33
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10-13-2008, 09:29 AM	#34
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	If you think thats bad think about having referrals that brought you quite a nice chunk of money on a regular basis... "disappear" Could write a book about that..

10-13-2008, 09:32 AM	#35
ZeroHero So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Westbahnhof Posts: 15,336	i love to see some answers

10-13-2008, 09:35 AM	#37
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	this can be caused by credits and/or chargebacks.

10-13-2008, 12:05 PM	#39
Lamis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 961	Which sponsor?