Does your country have social medicine?

[Evil Chris]

I think most developed countries have socialized medicine.

Why not the USA?

[kane]

Excellent question.

[pigman]

Probably cause the US puts companies before their people.

[bobby666]

but the nike workers in indonesia have social medicine when they are producing shoes for usa

[Evil Chris]

I guess this is an argument/debate most people would just rather not get into.

[The Duck]

Well, its because you are under mass hypnosis and not in a state where you can identify the shit they pull on you.

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/679/1/77/ <- interesting read

[kowalsky]

In Argentina there are public hospitals where poor people can get medicine for free. If that&#180;s possible in Argentina, of course is possible in US.

Probably with the 2&#37; of the money spent in military purpose, the american state could give free medicine to US, Canada, Mexico and a few other countries..

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by kowalsky

In Argentina there are public hospitals where poor people can get medicine for free. If that´s possible in Argentina, of course is possible in US.

Probably with the 2% of the money spent in military purpose, the american state could give free medicine to US, Canada, Mexico and a few other countries..

Yes it can be done. But then the Med companies are not getting paid. The doctors are not getting paid and the congress and what ever other politicians are not getting paid. So why do it.

[Nikki-webcams]

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

I think most developed countries have socialized medicine.

Why not the USA?

Ireland does!!

[Fletch XXX]

Bill Frists family owns hospitals, you think these guys at the top will ever want to change health care?

LOLOLOLOL

the top leadrs in congress are literally family member owned hospitals and medicine companies. They want you to pay, not have good care.

[borys]

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

I think most developed countries have socialized medicine.

Why not the USA?

Cause the US people have been conditioned over decades to believe anything socialized has to be socialism.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Yes,

Never had a problem with it.

Obligatory insurance, everything gets covered, you only pay a symbolic fee for every visit at the doctor and for every day in hospital, yet that's fixed and really symbolic.

I got involved in like two huge board discussions about this already in the past and don't think I have time nor energy to get into this again.

In a very crude version the main reason why US doesn't have this and the insurance companies continue to screw patients is money, it's not that a restructuralisation would be unaffordable even with nowadays tax structure.

Of course there is no easy / fast or one touch magical solution, yet the current model is say very, very unstandard and over the top compared to the rest of the nowadays civilised world.

Note: Socialised medicine is a term that was in particular invented and is used in US only, it's simply called a "national healthcare system" or so in other countries and it's percepted as the basic right of a citizen.

[BV]

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

I think most developed countries have socialized medicine.

Why not the USA?

USA has social medicine, for indigents.

They take $1400.00 a year out of my property taxes and give it to our local hospital for indigent care.

Just go to the Emergency Room of any public hospital and you will get free care if you can not afford it.

[kane]

Originally Posted by borys

Cause the US people have been conditioned over decades to believe anything socialized has to be socialism.

That is part of it, yet our schools, social security, police, fire and other things are all socialized and few people seem to have troubles with that.

I think some of it is that people who work and get health insurance through their jobs think all social medicine would do is make them pay for people on welfare's healthcare. I guess they don't realize they already do.

Another thing I think that holds it back is that it would require our leaders to let the pharmacy companies know that they can no longer flat rape the American people. We are the only industrialized nation in the world that doesn't have some kind of cap on how much they can mark up drug prices. For example. I have asthma and can't get health insurance that will cover anything asthma related so I pay for my medicine out of pocket. One of the prescriptions I take is $315 for a 60 day supply. I have called everywhere and that is the cheapest price. I can order it online from a pharmacy outside the US and get the exact same medicine for $90. Pretty sad. The pharmacy companies will fight tooth and nail to keep their prices where they want them and having prices that high would make socialized medicine very expensive. Actual doctor visits aren't that much. Many people go to the doctor once a year or even if they end up in the hospital for something the expense isnt' big compared to the cost of drugs. there are a lot of people that take thousands of dollars worth of medicine every year for decades and that cost adds up pretty quickly.

I think what we will ultimately have here is some kind of national health insurance where people can either qualify to get it for free or buy into it if they can afford it and they will give some kind of credits or tax breaks to employers who provide health insurance. It won't be socialized medicine, but more of a system of giving access to everyone who wants it under certain terms.

[Veevee]

I just watched the documentary of Michael Moore called Sicko.

France, by far has the best socialized medicine in the world. The sicker you are, the more coverage you get. Plus college is free!!!!

[Hazlewood]

Ontario has OHIP and its efficient