Barefootsies

I am seeking someone who is experienced in the link building, traffic, PR game. I am willing to set up an invite affiliate program for this individual, and pay them a 50/50 recurring split. Furthermore, I will set up a nice bonus bench mark. For each 100 members they get, regardless of the site combination, I will flip them $1000.00 bonus.

I promote celebs, foot fetish, tickling niche.

I do not have an affiliate program set up. So you are going to have to pull any promo material from a rage tag of sources. You will not be using any tube sites and 10 minute clips to promote. We have a tube site, and you're more than welcome to point them there, or download those 30-46 second clips and use them in your marketing techniques.

You can use blogs, TGP, link building, directories, picture post, etc for your promotion efforts. Make sure you use your affiliate ID.

Additionally, once I get more of my ad network set up. You can sell ad space on that network and get a commission on that as well. So a nice added bonus for someone.

You do not get to set any prices or promos.
You do not get to use tubes, and 10 minute clips.
You must have a solid background, that you can show me, that you know what you are doing.
You can use a trackback link system for the sites. One that automatically checks to make sure people do not remove links.


My situation is this. Most people can't afford to buy in as a partner. I am busy working on many things, and I am more of the content shooter, model recruiter, and 'creative energy'. I do not like dealing with the maintenance. I can make money. Lots more of it with someone who is a 'hired gun' for PR.

I do not have need for an 'affiliate manager' at this time, but this type of person would be primed should I need one down the line. To prevent laziness, and apathy. I am thinking we set up a 6/12 month contract or agreement. Where, at the end, we re-evaluate the person's performance and next step.

The new sites I am working on, should there be affiliate options, would be also added into this. So there is a percentage to be gained there as well. For the right, 'hired gun', this is a golden opportunity.

For me, it takes the mundane bullshit out of my day to day so I can concentrate on more things, and more money. Keeping the creative juices flowing, and shoots rolling. Especially since business partner is going to be out of it for some time because of his boat accident (do search).

Interested parties, feel free to contact me. But, before you do, make sure you have all your 'proof' in order to show me your mad skilwz.

Fire away ladies.

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Barefootsies

We do a lot with a little...

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moeloubani

just a question, why would someone promote you then if they need these prerequisites when there are other sites they can promote that have promo material, tube clips and things like that

Barefootsies

Some people are looking for more than 'being an affiliate' and chasing a paycheck.

I am looking for a PR/marketing/link builder who has the skills and paid on performance.

They get a piece of the pie every step of the way as it grows.

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baddog

Sounds like a pretty sweet opportunity for someone with skills.

Barefootsies

Yes it is.

If the person has some skills, and time, as well wants more direct pay on performance on things that convert. This is a very nice opportunity. Especially when, if you can drive traffic and sales on the long term, you make $1000.00 for every 100 members as a BONUS.

I am looking for more of a long term thinker who can deliver. I have no problem sharing the loot. But you have to be able to put up or shut up. Build link trades, revenue, membership base, and get a piece of the pie along the way.

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* a decent affiliate already has the resources to make things happen, and doesn't need to use anyone else's; by definition, if someone hasn't managed to garner the resources to run their own shit, then they're not who you're looking for.

* you're offering 50/50 + $10 a sale... which isn't anything special and certainly not enough to encourage exclusivity or to attract affiliates away from the multitude of other offers out there.

* link building is by far the most important and difficult part of the affiliate game and anyone with half a brain develops their own web properties, from which they can advertise anything without constraint.

IllTestYourGirls

why not just cut a deal with a whale and have them add you to their existing network? That $1000 bonus per 100 sales should buy you good traffic no?

It does sound like a great deal for someone with skills and traffic.

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Barefootsies

You can only do so much as a one, or two, man show when you SHOOT your own material, plus everything else that goes with the production end for mutliple sites, and then work on new things to stay ahead of the curve, market, link build, and so forth.

I understand your point, but the fact is, it's easier for us to hire a PR person to come in and use their skill set then us trying to do everything.

At some point, every company has to do it if they are growing.

If you think a 50/50 rev share for the life of the member, plus a $1000.00 on top of that per 100 members is nothing, then you must be a GFY pimp daddy, high rolling, lambo driving, super models tossing your salad, flying to all the shows, drink everyone under the table, fuck anything that moves BRO.

In that case. This would not be for you.

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Barefootsies

Well, I keep my options open to all opportunities. If a whale thinks they can convert foot fetish, and celebrity soft core, we are willing to do an invite only split.

We are at a point now, just like a few years ago when we started hiring programmers and designers instead of doing in house, that we simply have too much going on. We need to have people with the skill sets we do not want to learn to come in and excel.

No company, or one person, can be everything to everyone. At some point, you focus on your best skills or expertise, and farm out the rest to others.

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beemk

so basically you're offering what every other program out there offers but you want more than them sending you the traffic. good luck on that, you'll need it.

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Barefootsies

Yeah.

I am sure every program converts like we do.

Oh, and offers $1000.00 bonuses per 100 members on TOP of 50/50 rev share.

Please point me to "all these other" programs. I'll be waiting. But not holding my breath.

**rolls eyes**

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beemk

duke dollars and how i got rich both convert great, have more sites, and do bonuses. not to mention the massive amount of programs that convert good that pay high pps rates that end up being more $ than revshare + a bonus.

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Barefootsies

Ok ok Detwoit playa. I got it. You're a mad balla wit skills.

As I have said more than once now previously.... I am looking for more of a link builder, and PR person than some whale. A whale was suggested as an alternative.

But it's nice of the whales to chime in and remind me how well they are paid by the big companies.

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Barefootsies

We are a smaller company, with a niche product, and specific need.

That said, I could have come in this same thread, and offered some PR/link trade and traffic building person $25 a hour to do this task, without incentives. Yet, I would bet good cash money some 'whale' or GFY troll would still come in and talk about all the mad bank they make working for the BROS, and how it ain't shit and they wipe wit hundies, and blah blah blah.

No offense toots.

Back on point. I will consider different options to get the skills set I need. Obviously the 'whales' are not interested, so I go back to my original request as set out...

I am looking for someone who is a SEO, PR, link trader and traffic builder type, or has a track record and skills.

Slow and steady, not 'whale' traffic king who needs paid in gold bullion.

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You're offering no incentives at all compared to a normal aff program there bud...

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Barefootsies

I do not know why these traffic whales, kings, ballas, and GFY pimps keep posting in this thread..

We have already established, and I have acknowledged, this is not a good fit for them. But since this is GFY, and there is always a head horse around...

Then it's a good thing I am not looking for any affiliates then. I can continue to keep that closed and not open one. The whales and keep getting their $100 PPS, $1000.00 bonuses, and whatever else everyone claims to get. Keep sending the traffic, and everyone dandy.

I can just hire an hourly or contracted, PR/link trading, traffic building, marketing, SEO person and forgo the gold bullion payment to some traffic whale.

It works out for me better that way anyway. A spike in traffic, and then it tapering off is a nice spike. But doing it slow and steady will continue giving us continued highly targeted traffic, ratios, and results.

I am sure there is someone out there who fits the bill.

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You could also buy a network of sites that already have traffic and hire someone to manage them brotha. Anyway, good luck.

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datatank

1000 sales a year?

dav3

damn... 1:6 conversion for 3 years

hahahah nice!

no affiliate program for the masses yet?

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DarkJedi

Sounds like a shit deal.

DarkJedi

The guy is a joke.

I wouldn't be surprised if the stats were photoshopped either.

Oh and Verotel? HAHAHAHAHAHA

woj

My guess is these are join page clicks... so 1 in 6 that hit the join page end up signing up...

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PSSuperstars

That's not necessarily true.
There are different aspects to adult. I work in the phone sex/webcam realm.. and I'm having a shittastic time getting my affiliate stuff going... but I have a phone sex site that's pushing 7 figures.. and is in the top of the search engines. I know how to market. I know how to do links.... I do NOT know all the ins and outs of TGPs/MGPs/Tube Submissions... But I'm an 8-15 hour/day work horse.

I know how to market. I know how to PR... but I do not know the intricate little in's and out's of just being an affiliate... so if I had the time.. or the balls.. I would definitely apply to something like this...


There are alot of us that can market top notch in terms of PR and blogging and getting link backs and all that... but aren't really good at the nitty gritty parts.

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you people are reading this wrong

he does NOT have an affiliate program yet

he wants YOU to start an invitation only affiliate program for his sites. You go get webmasters to promote his previously private sites.

YOU get 50% of what all the webmasters generate.

you also get $1000 for every 100 sales they send.


Barefoot:

offer $2500 a month for the first 3 months, also, the seo stuff won't kick in for up to a year. Remember that.

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PSSuperstars

That actually is a good point... 3 word keywords will pop at 3 mos..
and then if you build it up good enough.. 2 word and single words will start slowly at 6 mos.. then you'll know organically if you fucked up or not by the first year.

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Barefootsies

Yeah, I am looking to buy up people's networks, or sites with traffic.

Most I've seen so far are crap. I don't mind a bit of drop off, but some never made it in the first place or can show proof.

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Barefootsies

Yep. I know G only pops a few times a year, but I am not looking for a flash in a the pan. I am looking for a long term solution. Links, SEO, PR all take time.

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Barefootsies

Yeah, see someone who can do this kind of stuff is what I am looking for. They do not have to be perfect, but if they can do the marketing part, then it takes that off my shoulders.

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Barefootsies

Guess you can't read.
It's been mentioned how many times?
Back to the drawbridge troll.

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Barefootsies

You're one to talk DJ.
No one around here takes anything you say seriously.
What was the last show you were at?
Thought so. *rolls eyes*
You troll a message board all day trying to impress people with your pea brained wit.

You're a complete failure. If I had 2 sales, it would be more than you do in a year pindick.

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Barefootsies

That's correct.

Verotel doesn't show it any other way. I would have to check my CCB stats to see if they are different. I have Verotel as my main, and CCB as a secondary. Some people prefer CCB out of name recognition.

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Barefootsies

That's correct. You have it spot on.

Also, thanks for the suggestion on the second part. I appreciate it.

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If this is how you look at the engines you need to seriously re-evaluate your views. Its just not how it works, not even close.

Google doesn't "stopwatch" your pages when you build them to decide when to list them, and 3 word terms first, then 2 word, then if you are real good and say your prayers, one word money terms!..lol Come on man.

Barefootsies, good luck on the search, I hope you find someone who isn't too flaky

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Barefootsies

Thanks bud.

I still have you on the ole ICQ from our last talk. I thought about you for this gig, but since it's more than just a SEO job. I thought I would post and see whom is out there who has a bit of knowledge for all the components.

I really am not looking for just flash in the pan traffic. Like buying a HUN listing or something. Once the listing goes away, so do your sales. I am looking for more of a long term, slow and steady build.

But time will tell. I am sure someone is out there.

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Forget about it.

I agree with Rorschach.

Regular affiliates may not see the problem with this offer, but super affs surely do!

Good luck because you will need plenty of it (luck).

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Barefootsies

Yes. Whale affiliates will not be interested from previous responses.

But as previously mentioned, I am not really looking for a traditional 'affiliate'. I am looking for a hi-bred. It would be nice if they had some skills as an affiliate, but that really is secondary to what I am looking for, and need.

Thanks for the picture and well wishes friend.

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DarkJedi

Oh yeah, because show attendance is an indication of ones financial sucess

You fucking moron.

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So you want someone to work link building and traffic, boosting the overall site performance (and indirectly the sales he is cut out of). After 6 months you drop him, and continue to benefit from his labors.

Barefootsies

Two part answer. Depending on how we come to terms on compensation.

1. If they are paid in the affiliate structre, they would continue receiving money even if they were not working for me for the life of the membership.

2. If they were doing their job, and a good one, then WHY on earth would I get rid of them?!??!? It's not like you reach a link building, SEO, or PR limit in this business and you get to kick up your feet and have a cold one.

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Good luck Barfootsies you would be an awesome guy to work with and anybody who does decide to take you up on your offer I think will make $$$

You have a unique niche are honest and work dam hard and anybody working with or for you would be in good hands

Its a shame people cant read or dont understand what you are looking for

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PSSuperstars

That's not the set pattern of how it works... but while the site is building its steam and points with google.. it's alot easier to blog the 3 word keyworders in those first few months.. conquer and own them.... especially if they have relevancy to your main keyword you want..

so going to "cheap webcam" before going for "webcam"... conquering "web cam girls" before getting "web cam"... and so on and so forth.

You're not going to just pop to the top for "web cam" in 3 mos... but if you start hitting the 3 worders.. you know you're on the right track.

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Rorschach

I'm calling you out as a bullshit artist sorry. You claim to have a seven figure site? Bullshit. Otherwise you wouldn't even consider going for a position like this.

For the record you aren't EVER going to get an adult site in the top 10 for "webcam" because Google generally filters adult sites except on adult keyphrases.

Anyone who takes 3-12 months to get search engine results might as well hang up their hat now... It's 2008 for Christ's sake. I would be expecting to nail 3 word keyphrases within a week (max) if you already have link building infrastructure and some link juice flow in place. The volume is in the long tail!

Barefootsies

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Barefootsies

Thanks buddy. Always appreciate the kind words.

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Call me out as bullshit. It's fine.
My girls/talent make half of the sales.
I retired my parents and pay their bills.. so that's the other half of net profit once marketing money is gone..
And I blow a shitload on advertising in hopes that 1million will one day become 3-4 million

A phone sex or webcam sites profit margin is 10-15% usually. IF THAT... ESPECIALLY if you pay the talent well.. and being that i'm extalent.. and a girl... I like to see my girls make money..

so going for affiliate stuff is padded money... the bullshit little amounts of money I make on affiliate stuff.. goes to investing and paying for my girlie stuff... make up, hair, nails, car...


I'm sure alot of the big webcam sites and niche sites do 5-10million in sales.. but profit is only about 10-15% of that...

and any extra cash that can be made with affiliate stuff is icing on the cake.

My days are spent obsessing over keyword strengths, linking, link backing, blogging, and %'s... all to win keywords like webcam and phone sex. And I do. My webcam keywords are usually 3 worders.. but eh, still.

so fuck off.

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