why the FUCK can't I get NATS installed? - GoFuckYourself.com

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:09 PM

I've been thru about four techs, 15 or 20k in fees, and I STILL can't find a tech who can do a simple NATS install without flaking. What the fuck?

Where have all the good programmers gone?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-22-2008, 02:14 PM

Ya could had Jon's team do the install and sent me the check for what ever the amount the money would have saved you.

How the fuck, I mean THE FUCK! HOW do you spend $20,000 bucks on a fucking program install?

I guess it's safe to say you only pay retards.
So hold the check.

tranza · 10-22-2008, 02:15 PM

Wow, 20k and it's still not working????????

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:15 PM

Jon who? wft are you talking about?

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Wow, 20k and it's still not working????????

Nope. Techs work for two weeks, bullshit me on how well it's going then disappear forever.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-22-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Jon who? wft are you talking about?

Oh god...

Don't make my head hurt. I am sorry for even posting in this thread.

Ya could have paid me 10,000 and I would have done it and I do not even know how to, but 10,000 I think I could learn real fucking quick!

PS: Out the scammers name so they don't fuck other guys here!

Brujah · 10-22-2008, 02:18 PM

Ouch. Is NATS that difficult to install? I hope it's not that difficult to use once it's installed.

GrouchyAdmin · 10-22-2008, 02:19 PM

What do you need? Feel free to drop me an email with any gateways, sites, or anything else required, and I'll hit you back with an estimate.

If it's NATS 4, though, I won't touch it. It's not stable enough that I want to be involved.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-22-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Ouch. Is NATS that difficult to install? I hope it's not that difficult to use once it's installed.

Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

What do you need? Feel free to drop me an email with any gateways, sites, or anything else required, and I'll hit you back with an estimate.

If it's NATS 4, though, I won't touch it. It's not stable enough that I want to be involved.

I did hit you up, I talked to you in depth and you didn't want the job before but I'll hit you up now

DarkJedi · 10-22-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Jon who? wft are you talking about?

John Atherton

stevo · 10-22-2008, 02:21 PM

Having a third party install it?
NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

Deej · 10-22-2008, 02:21 PM

NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

20k is a bit excessive isnt it?

Deej · 10-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo

Having a third party install it?
NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...

I forgot, you invented nats

uno · 10-22-2008, 02:22 PM

I thought TMM installs it themselves, no?

stevo · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

20k is a bit excessive isnt it?

He probably bought the one time license fee for $19,500.
Then didnt spend $250 to install it?

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

NATS is cake to install - either you have some host issues that dont allow simple shit ... or you truly got scammed

20k is a bit excessive isnt it?

fuck yeah... it's not totally simple, NATS and ES have to work concurrently for at least a two week period and all info has to be imported from ES to NATS as well. I think that's been the problem.

TheDoc · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Dude its PHP, how hard could it be?
LOL! Create Database, create DB fields, create exceptions, install script. Cross fingers, check file permissions...

If every server was setup the same, same os, same admins, same host... then "maybe" and nats is way hell more than php and a db and an install script..

GrouchyAdmin · 10-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

I did hit you up, I talked to you in depth and you didn't want the job before but I'll hit you up now

I have been sending quite a few away recently due to time constraints - but if you just need something simple and not custom, having TMM do it is your cheapest alternative.

You wanted to move from ES, right? I didn't take the job due to a lack of ES experience. I didn't want you to pay to "train" me; that wouldn't be fair.

Sly · 10-22-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo

Having a third party install it?
NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

They may install it but do they set up the sites for you and make sure that prior tracking systems convert over properly? I don't think they do that stuff... not really sure though. A lot of people require custom work though that they do not cover.

stevo · 10-22-2008, 02:27 PM

My advise - definitely go through NATS, there's always going to be some minor little problem or backdoor issue that only their techs will be able to solve "simply".

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo

My advise - definitely go through NATS, there's always going to be some minor little problem or backdoor issue that only their techs will be able to solve "simply".

yeah I talk to Boris or John about every day.

Dirty D · 10-22-2008, 02:35 PM

It sounds like the issues are integration, conversion, concurrency and seamless tracking...

NOT installation.
The base NATS install is simple and probably already been done by TMM.

True tech expertise is what is needed to cover the other issues.

"The devil is always in the details"

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

It sounds like the issues are integration, conversion, concurrency and seamless tracking...

NOT installation.
The base NATS install is simple and probably already been done by TMM.

True tech expertise is what is needed to cover the other issues.

"The devil is always in the details"

This is probably an accurate summation of the problem.

dig420 · 10-22-2008, 02:54 PM

Just want to make it clear that the problem IS NOT with nats, TMM has been nothing but helpful and active trying to make this work and if it was just a simple NATS install this would be cake. The problem is with the concurrent tracking and importing and my shitty hiring skills lol... I think this thread might fix that though, getting a much better response than the last couple times I came in here and cried about it.

PornNewz · 10-22-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

I've been thru about 15 or 20k in fees

Hope you got a free bowl of soup with that!

notoldschool · 10-22-2008, 03:36 PM

Take my advice...do it yourself. Its a bitch the first time but its well worth knowing how your own biz operates. It is not easy like most will boast about, but its worth walking the walk for knowledge purposes.

TheDoc · 10-22-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Take my advice...do it yourself. Its a bitch the first time but its well worth knowing how your own biz operates. It is not easy like most will boast about, but its worth walking the walk for knowledge purposes.

Dude, what they are doing, like .5% of the entire Webmaster population can help with. What they are doing has taken MONTHS.

If you don't have any skills in nats, very advanced webmastering, coding, graphics, html, database, code, servers... your ass isn't moving .00001% into this project.

That's why it takes 5-8 months to do mergers.

ro8in · 10-22-2008, 03:40 PM

EDIT: My Post was useless ignore it or read my sig.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-22-2008, 05:02 PM

Post for Dig420.

I wanna know who fucked the installation and modification and ran with the money.

10-22-2008, 02:09 PM	#1
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	why the FUCK can't I get NATS installed? I've been thru about four techs, 15 or 20k in fees, and I STILL can't find a tech who can do a simple NATS install without flaking. What the fuck? Where have all the good programmers gone?

10-22-2008, 02:14 PM	#2
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Ya could had Jon's team do the install and sent me the check for what ever the amount the money would have saved you. How the fuck, I mean THE FUCK! HOW do you spend $20,000 bucks on a fucking program install? I guess it's safe to say you only pay retards. So hold the check. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-22-2008 at 02:15 PM..

10-22-2008, 02:15 PM	#3
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10-22-2008, 02:18 PM	#7
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10-22-2008, 02:19 PM	#8
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	What do you need? Feel free to drop me an email with any gateways, sites, or anything else required, and I'll hit you back with an estimate. If it's NATS 4, though, I won't touch it. It's not stable enough that I want to be involved. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

10-22-2008, 02:21 PM	#12
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	Having a third party install it? NATS charges a $250 installation fee + $500 setup and training.

10-22-2008, 02:21 PM	#13
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10-22-2008, 02:27 PM	#22
stevo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 2,051	My advise - definitely go through NATS, there's always going to be some minor little problem or backdoor issue that only their techs will be able to solve "simply".

10-22-2008, 02:35 PM	#24
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	It sounds like the issues are integration, conversion, concurrency and seamless tracking... NOT installation. The base NATS install is simple and probably already been done by TMM. True tech expertise is what is needed to cover the other issues. "The devil is always in the details" __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions

10-22-2008, 02:54 PM	#26
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Just want to make it clear that the problem IS NOT with nats, TMM has been nothing but helpful and active trying to make this work and if it was just a simple NATS install this would be cake. The problem is with the concurrent tracking and importing and my shitty hiring skills lol... I think this thread might fix that though, getting a much better response than the last couple times I came in here and cried about it.

10-22-2008, 03:36 PM	#28
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	Take my advice...do it yourself. Its a bitch the first time but its well worth knowing how your own biz operates. It is not easy like most will boast about, but its worth walking the walk for knowledge purposes. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

10-22-2008, 03:40 PM	#30
ro8in Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,542	EDIT: My Post was useless ignore it or read my sig. __________________ ------ Offcourse its a dude posting here. Probably a fut ugly one too. Fuck still people falling for this 100 year old trick

10-22-2008, 05:02 PM	#31
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Post for Dig420. I wanna know who fucked the installation and modification and ran with the money. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|