My Monday morning plea to PH chat webmasters - GoFuckYourself.com

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 04:43 AM

Please, just for today, if we have to have icq conversations where you try convince me that your traffic isn't actually chat traffic or that that your particular chat traffic isn't fraud could you at least not call me buddy or 'mam today? I just need an easy Monday morning. We can return to our reguarly scheduled chats tomorrow if required. Thank you kindly.

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 04:50 AM

Not that I have a clue about the conversation at hand..

But how is chat traffic fraud?

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 05:00 AM

The gist of this sort of chat traffic is that they have 'chatters' out there pretending to be women or cam girls. They chat up men but tell them either they will send them nude pictures or get naked on camera (that sort of thing anyway) in exchange for them signing up for a site and giving them the confirmation code. They usually tell them that they can then cancel it right away. So, on the one end you have somebody having people signing up with the purpose of cancelling right away and getting them the free trial signup money. Which is why, many affiliate programs now bar chat traffic in their terms and conditions. Then, it is often fraud to the surfer too because there is no 'woman' and after they have joined the person they were chatting to vanishes and gives them nothing in return.

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

The gist of this sort of chat traffic is that they have 'chatters' out there pretending to be women or cam girls. They chat up men but tell them either they will send them nude pictures or get naked on camera (that sort of thing anyway) in exchange for them signing up for a site and giving them the confirmation code. They usually tell them that they can then cancel it right away. So, on the one end you have somebody having people signing up with the purpose of cancelling right away and getting them the free trial signup money. Which is why, many affiliate programs now bar chat traffic in their terms and conditions. Then, it is often fraud to the surfer too because there is no 'woman' and after they have joined the person they were chatting to vanishes and gives them nothing in return.

Ahhhh... I see, a lame chat traffic webmaster that some how ended up with the scripts.. dirty bastards.

Don't push away chat traffic just because of a few bad apples. A few webmasters do it correctly, without complaints or frauding the surfer. Always make them push a landing page they host, that way you can see the offer.

seeandsee · 07-06-2009, 05:11 AM

people will do anything for cash

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

people will do anything for cash

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Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Ahhhh... I see, a lame chat traffic webmaster that some how ended up with the scripts.. dirty bastards.

Don't push away chat traffic just because of a few bad apples. A few webmasters do it correctly, without complaints or frauding the surfer. Always make them push a landing page they host, that way you can see the offer.

Hence..PH chat webmasters being specified because there is a certain brand of chat that is coming from that corner. Other affiliate managers will know what I am talking about, trust me.

WiredGuy · 07-06-2009, 05:16 AM

I always wondered why chatters simply don't take it one step further and just promote a cams site of a girl who is actually online. Sure, promise them the world but actually deliver on the goods. That way when they join they can chat/interact with a real girl and probably retain them pretty well too since they'll think they were chatting with her the whole time. Win win for everyone, no?
WG

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Hence..PH chat webmasters being specified because there is a certain brand of chat that is coming from that corner. Other affiliate managers will know what I am talking about, trust me.

Oh, you're talking about Filipinos?

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I always wondered why chatters simply don't take it one step further and just promote a cams site of a girl who is actually online. Sure, promise them the world but actually deliver on the goods. That way when they join they can chat/interact with a real girl and probably retain them pretty well too since they'll think they were chatting with her the whole time. Win win for everyone, no?
WG

Shhh... damn wg, go back to the seo threads.

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 05:18 AM

I know, if they are going to go to the lengths of employing banks of people to do all that work just go all the way through with it and hook up with a sponsor on a legit level and d a promotion deal. It is the starting out trying to pull something over the sponsor and waiting to get caught that is just never going to go down well.

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Oh, you're talking about Filipinos?

Yes, PH Chat is a special brand. I hate even talking about a group like that because it is so against who I am as a person but it is hard to deny there is a PH chat fraud chat ring. They hire banks of guys to pretend to be women and go hunt out the male surfers. It must make it hard for the honest PH webmasters, of which I am sure there are many.

TheDoc · 07-06-2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I know, if they are going to go to the lengths of employing banks of people to do all that work just go all the way through with it and hook up with a sponsor on a legit level and d a promotion deal. It is the starting out trying to pull something over the sponsor and waiting to get caught that is just never going to go down well.

true true... I forget humans can do this too

candyflip · 07-06-2009, 05:48 AM

They've got a fucking affiliate program recruiting new "chatters":

http://www.chatsales.com/

Axzar · 07-06-2009, 06:23 AM

American Chat Link.

slapass · 07-06-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I always wondered why chatters simply don't take it one step further and just promote a cams site of a girl who is actually online. Sure, promise them the world but actually deliver on the goods. That way when they join they can chat/interact with a real girl and probably retain them pretty well too since they'll think they were chatting with her the whole time. Win win for everyone, no?
WG

Harder then it looks. The girls get freaked or weirded out. The girl just quits or is never on. These are camgirls...

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

They've got a fucking affiliate program recruiting new "chatters":

http://www.chatsales.com/

So, when people sign up does it give them lists of affiliate programs to target? That would explain a great deal.

kristin · 07-06-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Please, just for today, if we have to have icq conversations where you try convince me that your traffic isn't actually chat traffic or that that your particular chat traffic isn't fraud could you at least not call me buddy or 'mam today? I just need an easy Monday morning. We can return to our reguarly scheduled chats tomorrow if required. Thank you kindly.

We've been getting hit up a lot more from the chat WMs lately as well. It's always fun to deal with.

EvilFubAr · 07-06-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Please, just for today, if we have to have icq conversations where you try convince me that your traffic isn't actually chat traffic or that that your particular chat traffic isn't fraud could you at least not call me buddy or 'mam today? I just need an easy Monday morning. We can return to our reguarly scheduled chats tomorrow if required. Thank you kindly.

ok sir, god bless

Pete-KT · 07-06-2009, 08:47 AM

i had one last week banned him right away

Sarah_Jayne · 07-06-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilFubAr

ok sir, god bless

but hold on 'mam

SteveBee · 11-30-2009, 07:39 PM

I've run into some of those posers and they ended up beggin' me to send them one dollar - they would do anything - talk to me for 20 minutes 0 text sex - anything for me to donate just one dollar so they can get food and continue to fuck at home - geeze.

Lace · 11-30-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveBee

I've run into some of those posers and they ended up beggin' me to send them one dollar - they would do anything - talk to me for 20 minutes 0 text sex - anything for me to donate just one dollar so they can get food and continue to fuck at home - geeze.

Why the hell would you bump this old ass thread?

WebCashMaker · 11-30-2009, 09:41 PM

We accept chatter traffic.

B O B · 11-30-2009, 09:46 PM

more power!

07-06-2009, 04:43 AM	#1
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	My Monday morning plea to PH chat webmasters Please, just for today, if we have to have icq conversations where you try convince me that your traffic isn't actually chat traffic or that that your particular chat traffic isn't fraud could you at least not call me buddy or 'mam today? I just need an easy Monday morning. We can return to our reguarly scheduled chats tomorrow if required. Thank you kindly.

07-06-2009, 04:50 AM	#2
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Not that I have a clue about the conversation at hand.. But how is chat traffic fraud? __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

07-06-2009, 05:11 AM	#5
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07-06-2009, 05:16 AM	#8
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,451	I always wondered why chatters simply don't take it one step further and just promote a cams site of a girl who is actually online. Sure, promise them the world but actually deliver on the goods. That way when they join they can chat/interact with a real girl and probably retain them pretty well too since they'll think they were chatting with her the whole time. Win win for everyone, no? WG __________________ I play with Google.

07-06-2009, 05:48 AM	#14
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07-06-2009, 05:00 AM	#3
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	The gist of this sort of chat traffic is that they have 'chatters' out there pretending to be women or cam girls. They chat up men but tell them either they will send them nude pictures or get naked on camera (that sort of thing anyway) in exchange for them signing up for a site and giving them the confirmation code. They usually tell them that they can then cancel it right away. So, on the one end you have somebody having people signing up with the purpose of cancelling right away and getting them the free trial signup money. Which is why, many affiliate programs now bar chat traffic in their terms and conditions. Then, it is often fraud to the surfer too because there is no 'woman' and after they have joined the person they were chatting to vanishes and gives them nothing in return.

07-06-2009, 05:18 AM	#11
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I know, if they are going to go to the lengths of employing banks of people to do all that work just go all the way through with it and hook up with a sponsor on a legit level and d a promotion deal. It is the starting out trying to pull something over the sponsor and waiting to get caught that is just never going to go down well.

07-06-2009, 06:23 AM	#15
Axzar Random Jackass Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,837	American Chat Link.

07-06-2009, 08:47 AM	#20
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	i had one last week banned him right away

11-30-2009, 07:39 PM	#22
SteveBee Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: nashvegas Posts: 87	I've run into some of those posers and they ended up beggin' me to send them one dollar - they would do anything - talk to me for 20 minutes 0 text sex - anything for me to donate just one dollar so they can get food and continue to fuck at home - geeze.

11-30-2009, 09:41 PM	#24
WebCashMaker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,726	We accept chatter traffic. __________________

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