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peeperpimp · 11-01-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Excuse me?
A DMCA has no part of this and would not - unless that person began using the material without the others consent. Nothing to do at all with the potential cival matter at hand. - assuming worst case.

I think you miss read my post or maybe I wasn't clear I meant lawyer for the civil matter and DMCA if this person started using said content, sorry for the mis type but I did correct the post as best I could within the time frame allowed if you wanna read it again

Mutt · 11-01-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VanillaCreme

This is a very popular program/person on this board, which is why it was so appealing.... irony is that when we were negotiating he said I could trust him, and used this board as a reference.

well whoever it is isn't doing anything wrong really - other than letting you down by taking so long to get the site going. he's working on his own schedule and unfortunately for you the site you're doing with him doesn't seem to be top priority with him. i don't think it's nice what he's doing but it doesn't sound like there's anything shady going on.

when you say 'popular program/person' are you saying the program he runs is very successful? have you seen numbers? are the Alexa rankings high on his sites?
don't confuse GFY popularity/notoriety with success - they don't necessarily go together.

peeperpimp · 11-01-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VanillaCreme

yep, originals, documentation, and the two bodies that are in most of the content....

So with DMCA I'm assuming I have to get a lawyer and file some sort of suit?

If you have the originals the most practical solution in my opininon is cut your losses now worst thing is you may have to dish out for a new domain, and do the site yourself...

As far as DMCA that would be for future use if need be, for example if he/she where to start using your content without your consent...

psili · 11-01-2008, 08:49 PM

This is GFY where all things are bullshit.

Nicky · 11-01-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VanillaCreme

irony is that when we were negotiating he said I could trust him

SlowDash · 11-01-2008, 08:57 PM

this thread is useless without anyone to flame

crockett · 11-01-2008, 09:36 PM

He may not be trying to screw you, but he's not being a good partner either. Just be glad he didn't get you for any money. Just learn how to do things yourself and you will be better off in the long run.

DWB · 11-01-2008, 09:45 PM

Sweetie, drop him right now.

The domain is a loss and if you have the originals, run with those and start over.

Check his sites often and if the content shows up on his sites, as I suspect it may, DMCA him, the hosting company he is with and the billing companies that process for the sites. The content will get removed.

Even if he is legit, he is fucking you around. Not even worth a fight, just get your shit and move on.

Oh... and out him.

DWB · 11-01-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

don't confuse GFY popularity/notoriety with success - they don't necessarily go together.

Wise words.

Varius · 11-01-2008, 10:52 PM

Even if he weren't giving you the run-around or trying to ignore you (which IMO it appears he's doing both), there are a few things you can take from this:

1) Based on those ICQ logs, he has zero professionalism in the way he speaks to people.

2) There is no need to EVER transfer your domain to someone like this (unless it's part of the contracted agreement, so that you can't screw the program once the site is up and being promoted)

3) Cut your losses (I hope the domain wasn't premium) and just get someone else to get your site up. I know some guys I can refer you to if you need.

Oh and I agree with Sly; I never trust a guy who says "trust me"

Shai West · 11-02-2008, 01:16 AM

Well, this is the scariest thread I've read today...fucking empty promises.xxx

d-null · 11-02-2008, 01:27 AM

time to post it already

peeperpimp · 11-02-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

time to post it already

Ya whats the name ???

ExtremeBank_Adam · 11-02-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VanillaCreme

Oh yeah, it was just a copy. Originals are sitting on my computer and a copy on the server that is hosting our current site.

As others have said... cut loose while you can. Seven months to get a site going is not exactly timely. My guess is this is just the start of the problems, too. What happens when you're supposed to get paid and you get the runaround?

I might be able to help you if you're interested. ICQ me: 331797412

Adam

ExtremeBank_Adam · 11-02-2008, 09:06 PM

No word today... get things worked out?

Iron Fist · 11-02-2008, 09:13 PM

Wow transferring the domain was the single most idiotic thing I've heard so far. I have a friend as well, whos starting a mainstream site, i laid out the terms, but made it clear that *HE* registers the domains and pays for the reg fees, I could care less who he does that through, but the ONLY thing i would need is for him to point the name servers on the domain to my hosting provider, he fully retains control of the domain, and I made it clear that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVER except him should retain control of the domain.

Whoever this guy is, if he has half a brain, he'd be long gone and registered the domain for 5 years and wait you out. The only saving grace you MIGHT have is if the registration information is incorrect, you might be able to sue him for it if you can prove trademarks.

It gets sticky from here... but your clearly in a shitty position.

AdultB2B · 11-02-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VanillaCreme

Oct 21st (not sure why the timestamp says the 15th)

Vanilla Creme ‎(10/15/2008 5:57 PM): -----
Vanilla Creme ‎(10/15/2008 10:51 PM): ???
----- ‎(10/16/2008 10:41 AM): Whats up?
Vanilla Creme ‎(10/16/2008 6:10 PM): just seeing where we stand. You mentioned a complete site by monday to send to visa.
---- ‎(6:09 PM): Hey im in the middle of a confrence call
Vanilla Creme ‎(6:09 PM): np, was just checking in hit me up when you're off
------ ‎(6:27 PM): Hey whats up? havent heard anything from visa which is a good thing, that usually means they havent found any problems yet
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:02 PM): well what exactly are they looking at? haven't seen any changes on the site yet
----- ‎(7:02 PM): they just look at text and shit make sure no cp, no violations
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:03 PM): most of the text is that loren ipsum shit
----- ‎(7:03 PM): i usually dont change anything unless they ask because sometimes they ask for certain stuff sometimes it depends on who checks it from visa and how much of an ass they wanna be the text stuff ill work on tomo
----- ‎(7:04 PM): but that doesnt stop visa approving it
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:04 PM): you mentioned you'd get the site uploaded on friday, when are you going to get to that?
---- ‎(7:04 PM): the site is uploaded
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:04 PM): the content, the members area, etc
----- ‎(7:05 PM): waitin on the members area template, hes supposed to have it ready tomo
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:05 PM): the change to the web cam schedule part
----- ‎(7:06 PM): i have the image havent uploaded it yet hang on ill show u
----- ‎(7:07 PM): check it now i forgot to upload it
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:07 PM): same
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:16 PM): you trying to upload the new image?
----- ‎(7:16 PM): he sent me it and said it was the new one
hang on let me check the email
----- ‎(7:18 PM): check it now
----- ‎(7:19 PM): i uploaded to the wrong directory
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:19 PM): [/color]that did it
----- ‎(7:19 PM): [color="#000000"]sorry been a long day
----- ‎(7:20 PM): tomo ill complete the whole site so u can see it minus the members area, until i get the template tomo
Vanilla Creme ‎(7:20 PM): alright. will talk to you then
------ ‎(7:20 PM): k have a good night

This guy isn't out of Mexico by any chance is he with the initials K.W.? If so, please hit me up.

lazycash · 11-02-2008, 09:17 PM

Hmmm, is this Alienq?

starpimps · 11-02-2008, 09:20 PM

out the motherfucker..

sortie · 11-02-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

Trixie · 11-02-2008, 09:33 PM

He's not just slow or lazy, he's lying to you (as already said, you can't get approval on a members-area that's barely there/written with Latin placeholders) and taking advantage of you with this 20% bullshit, etc.

And you asked for it.

It seriously blows my mind how many girls/women just hand all of their shit over to strangers on a silver platter, sign over their domains, and let their lazy ass web"masters" take way more than their fair share of the money, of which there usually is very little since no one involved knows what they're doing.

Depressing. Seriously depressing. Is there no happy medium between the chicks who work for pennies and sign everything over to their pimps and the chicks who want millions for flashing their titties and don't think their sponsors, webmasters, etc. deserve a lick of the credit?

Life out of balance . . .

jakethedog · 11-02-2008, 09:38 PM

VC .. if this goes on any longer contact me .. we can have a site up ..approved/processing and part of our aff program ...along with 50% net in 3 months approx ..

DWB · 11-03-2008, 04:52 AM

I know this was taken care of now, but I would still have him transfer the domain back to you and I would ask for 50% of the site money.

I'd also put a time line on him to have you up and running or you will void the deal and out him.

Any other deal, I'd walk.

XX_RydeR · 11-03-2008, 05:18 AM

So what ended up happening?

DamageX · 11-03-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Hmmm, is this Alienq?

Nah, can't be... The OP said the webmaster in question had a good reputation on here. The only reputation AlienQ has on here is that of a delusional idiot talking out of his ass on any issue that gets discussed, most of the time with zero relation to reality. That and he sucks at design, remember the OP said the site "looked good".

11-01-2008, 08:49 PM	#54
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11-01-2008, 10:52 PM	#60
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11-02-2008, 01:16 AM	#61
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11-01-2008, 09:45 PM	#58
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Sweetie, drop him right now. The domain is a loss and if you have the originals, run with those and start over. Check his sites often and if the content shows up on his sites, as I suspect it may, DMCA him, the hosting company he is with and the billing companies that process for the sites. The content will get removed. Even if he is legit, he is fucking you around. Not even worth a fight, just get your shit and move on. Oh... and out him.

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11-02-2008, 09:13 PM	#66
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Wow transferring the domain was the single most idiotic thing I've heard so far. I have a friend as well, whos starting a mainstream site, i laid out the terms, but made it clear that HE registers the domains and pays for the reg fees, I could care less who he does that through, but the ONLY thing i would need is for him to point the name servers on the domain to my hosting provider, he fully retains control of the domain, and I made it clear that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE EVER except him should retain control of the domain. Whoever this guy is, if he has half a brain, he'd be long gone and registered the domain for 5 years and wait you out. The only saving grace you MIGHT have is if the registration information is incorrect, you might be able to sue him for it if you can prove trademarks. It gets sticky from here... but your clearly in a shitty position. __________________ i like waffles

11-02-2008, 09:17 PM	#68
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11-02-2008, 09:33 PM	#71
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	He's not just slow or lazy, he's lying to you (as already said, you can't get approval on a members-area that's barely there/written with Latin placeholders) and taking advantage of you with this 20% bullshit, etc. And you asked for it. It seriously blows my mind how many girls/women just hand all of their shit over to strangers on a silver platter, sign over their domains, and let their lazy ass web"masters" take way more than their fair share of the money, of which there usually is very little since no one involved knows what they're doing. Depressing. Seriously depressing. Is there no happy medium between the chicks who work for pennies and sign everything over to their pimps and the chicks who want millions for flashing their titties and don't think their sponsors, webmasters, etc. deserve a lick of the credit? Life out of balance . . . __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

11-02-2008, 09:38 PM	#72
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11-03-2008, 04:52 AM	#73
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I know this was taken care of now, but I would still have him transfer the domain back to you and I would ask for 50% of the site money. I'd also put a time line on him to have you up and running or you will void the deal and out him. Any other deal, I'd walk.

11-03-2008, 05:18 AM	#74
XX_RydeR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Australia. Posts: 2,151	So what ended up happening? __________________ You Dun Goofed!