The problem with Obama being elected now

[buzzy]

Is that he is coming into office at probally one of the hardest times in history, ever. If he dosen't pull it off there will be no more black men as president after him

[tony286]

How many white guys fucked up and still getting elected?

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by tony404

How many white guys fucked up and still getting elected?

After Bush?

Probably none.

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by tony404

How many white guys fucked up and still getting elected?

Yeah but they are white. big difference

[DWB]

Originally Posted by tony404

How many white guys fucked up and still getting elected?

But this is a BLACK MAN we are talking about.

If he is not able to clean up 8 years of Bush's mess, Obama will go down as a failure. Sad but true.

With that said, NOBODY is going to be able to come in on a 4 year term and get shit cleaned up that fast.

[mynameisjim]

I think America is smarter than that. They don't really expect the whole thing to turn around. They just want to see the direction change and things to start to trend in right direction again. At least that's all I'm looking for.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

But this is a BLACK MAN we are talking about.

If he is not able to clean up 8 years of Bush's mess, Obama will go down as a failure. Sad but true.

With that said, NOBODY is going to be able to come in on a 4 year term and get shit cleaned up that fast.

Maybe he'll tax the churches and use the money to clean up the problems they are always bitching about and swaying elections over but never ponying up cash to alleviate.

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Never test a black man and his goal to be "the man".

[NickB.]

Originally Posted by tony404

How many white guys fucked up and still getting elected?

hahahahhaaha you almost killed me with that one

[jollyperv]

I have a feeling that he's gonna be really great. And I'm a pessimistic, negative motherfucker.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I wish for the people who elect Obama because they truly believe in him to only feel shame when he's as ineffective as the rest; those who vote because he's black? Stuck next to OJ in a cell - and he's got a pocketknife. If you're going to hedge it on race, we might as well go with an oriental.

[spanky part 2]

He will be the next FDR. Just can't wait to send Bush back to Texas and never see him again.

[pigman]

True, he will not have an easy time.
But then again, it would be so scary if you had Bush to clean up this mess.

[budz]

Originally Posted by spanky part 2

just can't wait to send bush back to texas and never see him again.

qft

amen!

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by buzzy

Is that he is coming into office at probally one of the hardest times in history, ever. If he dosen't pull it off there will be no more black men as president after him

If everything was hunkydory Obama wouldn't get elected since there wouldn't be a reason for change.

[EscortBiz]

its like a stand up comic the final few minutes it what makes or breaks his show, should the economy turn around by the time 4years are up he will be hailed as a hero, kinda why clinton is liked so much even thou he had nothing to do with the dot com boom

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by GatorB

If everything was hunkydory Obama wouldn't get elected since there wouldn't be a reason for change.

well lets talk about change for a minute since everyone keeps on saying change this change that

Does he truly want to see a better america, def yes but can he really do much?

Health care for everyone - nothing he or anyone can do
Housing crisis - nothing he or anyone can do
Terror threats - nothing he or anyone can do
War in iraq - no guys he cant just bring the troops home tomorrow morning war dont work like that
Credit crisis on a corporate level - nothing he or anyone can do
Unemployment issue that will reach 10% by feb 09 - nothing he or anyone can do

Only thing he will change is the fact that there was never a black man as president and that is a big change in itself, other than that those who think that they will start making more money and living a better life and that bin laden will stop trying to kill us once he takes office are in for a sad lesson in life.

Lesson learned in this race is once again if you have good speaking skills in the USA you can pretty much get anywhere because lets face it thats all he really has, the other guys running against him and most people in politics have nothing on him when it comes to giving a speech, remember he only got famous years ago after some mega speech he gave, I say elect the speech writer.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

well lets talk about change for a minute since everyone keeps on saying change this change that

Does he truly want to see a better america, def yes but can he really do much?

Health care for everyone - nothing he or anyone can do
Housing crisis - nothing he or anyone can do
Terror threats - nothing he or anyone can do
War in iraq - no guys he cant just bring the troops home tomorrow morning war dont work like that
Credit crisis on a corporate level - nothing he or anyone can do
Unemployment issue that will reach 10% by feb 09 - nothing he or anyone can do

countdown to you being declared racist for stating obvious facts....

10-9-8-7.........

[slapass]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

But this is a BLACK MAN we are talking about.

If he is not able to clean up 8 years of Bush's mess, Obama will go down as a failure. Sad but true.

With that said, NOBODY is going to be able to come in on a 4 year term and get shit cleaned up that fast.

America is pretty resilient. If he just keeps from blowing huge chunks of cash and fucking up other shit, we will come back and he will get the credit.

[kowalsky]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

After Bush?

Probably none.

LOL, the new post Bush era is already here...

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

its like a stand up comic the final few minutes it what makes or breaks his show, should the economy turn around by the time 4years are up he will be hailed as a hero, kinda why clinton is liked so much even thou he had nothing to do with the dot com boom

Being that you clearly don't like Democrats, its understandable that you haven't educated yourself on any reality based around the Boom. Like, Clinton help create the mess we are in today by allowing the average person to get credit when they couldn't ever had it before, or enough to use it.

This loosening of credit, is what created the Boom. Not big Corps going nuts, or cooking books, or whatever odd theory you have, all around more credit.

And without that tiny little adjustment, the Internet wouldn't have ever had the spike like it did, it probably wouldn't have built to even where it is today. If you take out the largest buying market 12 years ago up to today, the Internet wouldn't be what it is today.

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

well lets talk about change for a minute since everyone keeps on saying change this change that

Does he truly want to see a better america, def yes but can he really do much?

Health care for everyone - nothing he or anyone can do
Housing crisis - nothing he or anyone can do
Terror threats - nothing he or anyone can do
War in iraq - no guys he cant just bring the troops home tomorrow morning war dont work like that
Credit crisis on a corporate level - nothing he or anyone can do
Unemployment issue that will reach 10% by feb 09 - nothing he or anyone can do

Oh, let me help you understand..

Health care for everyone is easily possible since we already have it. So logic says, once we go through and correct some issues (as stated by obama), we can then fund it better (as stated by obama), use the current gov insurance/medical system that is already going, and by adding more people, more money, ect into it - it would be very easy to expand.

Since old, military and gov workers have it now. You can bet kids and finally the sick / disadvantaged can get medical help. Without question this will happen in 4 years - it almost happened under Bush.


Housing crisis - what should anyone do? Nothing, other than help correct what allowed it to happen. (not an obama thing but he helps) It's not a crisis either, you can't buy you rent, and thank god - if everyone owned homes who would rent mine?


Terror threats never hurt anyone. And unlike bush, we won't attack based on a threat, idea, or miss information. Logically a more clam president, that the world accepts, that might actually get out of some peoples backyards... nah, no way terrorism calmed down for every other Country that does this.. but America.

War in Iraq - You a Marine? I am.. And yes, we can tuck our tails and run. We have done it before, it's rather easy to do. And that is why we have and are part of the United Nations. We do have the power to force the world to help us rebuild, ohhhh... another thing Obama talks about..

Credit on the Corp level doesn't need to be corrected. Have you tried to get a corp loan/credit as of late? It's not all that hard, still less is needed than 10 years ago.

Unemployment, I didn't know Obama had to correct a problem that we have had since forever. Anyway, as investments move for an Obama Presidency, you will see it go back towards a technology push (your investments should already be shifting). And since that is what our Country needs for jobs, you will see Unemployment turn around - and that is all that's needed.

[EscortBiz]

if you read my post I make it clear nobody can do nothing about most of the situations where are in right now

[yys]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

well lets talk about change for a minute since everyone keeps on saying change this change that

Does he truly want to see a better america, def yes but can he really do much?

Health care for everyone - nothing he or anyone can do
Housing crisis - nothing he or anyone can do
Terror threats - nothing he or anyone can do
War in iraq - no guys he cant just bring the troops home tomorrow morning war dont work like that
Credit crisis on a corporate level - nothing he or anyone can do
Unemployment issue that will reach 10% by feb 09 - nothing he or anyone can do

Only thing he will change is the fact that there was never a black man as president and that is a big change in itself, other than that those who think that they will start making more money and living a better life and that bin laden will stop trying to kill us once he takes office are in for a sad lesson in life.

Lesson learned in this race is once again if you have good speaking skills in the USA you can pretty much get anywhere because lets face it thats all he really has, the other guys running against him and most people in politics have nothing on him when it comes to giving a speech, remember he only got famous years ago after some mega speech he gave, I say elect the speech writer.

Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

if you read my post I make it clear nobody can do nothing about most of the situations where are in right now

And it was an interesting opinion...

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election.

Or we could look at it the correct way and say, the people gave Obama more money than Bush and Kerry combined for the purpose of running for president, so logically he would spend more too.

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Or we could look at it the correct way and say, the people gave Obama more money than Bush and Kerry combined for the purpose of running for president, so logically he would spend more too.

I guess if you like looking at things with blinkers on then you would be correct.

What was that thing he opted out of? The first presidential contender in 50 years or something.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

I guess if you like looking at things with blinkers on then you would be correct.

With blinkers? Umm... let's see, I stated exact facts and you say I have blinkers on?

Well, hell entertain me then. Tell me how Obama got all that money and then tell me what he is supposed to do with it?

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

With blinkers? Umm... let's see, I stated exact facts and you say I have blinkers on?

Well, hell entertain me then. Tell me how Obama got all that money and then tell me what he is supposed to do with it?

He opted out of public financing which allowed him to raise and spend as much money as he wanted too.
Are you of the opinion that being able to spend more then the $80 odd million limit played no role in him having a successful campaign? I'd say your wearing blinkers if your answer is yes; wouldn't you?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

He opted out of public financing which allowed him to raise and spend as much money as he wanted too.
Are you of the opinion that being able to spend more then the $80 odd million limit played no role in him having a successful campaign? I'd say your wearing blinkers if your answer is yes; wouldn't you?

Oh I got it... So McCain uses Federal Grants since the Public won't give him Money, but when he tries to use Public money, he is capped - because he used the Fed... The rules sux!

However, it's "bad" that Obama, didn't use the Fed but selected to use Public funding, which has no cap. And nobody, ever in a million years knew or ever thought a person could raise so much money. Basically, beating "Everyones" theory that said otherwise.

What blinkers?

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Oh I got it... So McCain uses Federal Grants since the Public won't give him Money, but when he tries to use Public money, he is capped - because he used the Fed... The rules sux!

However, it's "bad" that Obama, didn't use the Fed but selected to use Public funding, which has no cap. And nobody, ever in a million years knew or ever thought a person could raise so much money. Basically, beating "Everyones" theory that said otherwise.

What blinkers?

Fuck off Don't try place me on one side or the other. You know what i was getting at. It had absolutely nothing to do with Obama "good, bad". Give me a fucking break.

If you are saying that Obama's vast sums of money played no role in him running a successful campaign; then yes you do have blinkers on.

Try looking at what I originally commented on and quit trying to attribute different meanings to what I wrote.

Talk about reading comprehension problems. Fuck

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

Fuck off Don't try place me on one side or the other. You know what i was getting at. It had absolutely nothing to do with Obama "good, bad". Give me a fucking break.

If you are saying that Obama's vast sums of money played no role in him running a successful campaign; then yes you do have blinkers on.

Try looking at what I originally commented on and quit trying to attribute different meanings to what I wrote.

Talk about reading comprehension problems. Fuck

Haha, what? This is the gayest twisting of words I have ever seen.

Of course Obama's money played a huge role. Me saying Obama got more money for Donations, so he could spend more, isn't walking around with Blinkers on, and is the answer to what you stated. Comprendo?

And I wasn't the one that tried to twist in how he is able to have so much money. No reason to back peddle.

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Haha, what? This is the gayest twisting of words I have ever seen.

Of course Obama's money played a huge role. Me saying Obama got more money for Donations, so he could spend more, isn't walking around with Blinkers on, and is the answer to what you stated. Comprendo?

And I wasn't the one that tried to twist in how he is able to have so much money. No reason to back peddle.

Seriously fuck off

I commented on this portion of someones post
"Lesson learned in this race is once again if you have good speaking skills in the USA you can pretty much get anywhere "

I pointed out that maybe the fact he spent more money then both candidates in '04 played as much or more of a role then his ability to speak.
Your response was
"Or we could look at it the correct way and say, the people gave Obama more money than Bush and Kerry combined for the purpose of running for president, so logically he would spend more too."
There's that reading comprehension problem

So I try to make it easier for you to understand what I was saying by giving you a hint but you still didn't catch on to what I was saying. From there I give you another hint at what the original comment was getting at but you still didn't get it. Now I'm back peddling

Buy a clue

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

Seriously fuck off

I commented on this portion of someones post
"Lesson learned in this race is once again if you have good speaking skills in the USA you can pretty much get anywhere "

I pointed out that maybe the fact he spent more money then both candidates in '04 played as much or more of a role then his ability to speak.
Your response was
"Or we could look at it the correct way and say, the people gave Obama more money than Bush and Kerry combined for the purpose of running for president, so logically he would spend more too."
There's that reading comprehension problem

So I try to make it easier for you to understand what I was saying by giving you a hint but you still didn't catch on to what I was saying. From there I give you another hint at what the original comment was getting at but you still didn't get it. Now I'm back peddling

Buy a clue

Haha, what? Are you on drugs man?

You quoted EB's big post, not a line... and said "Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election."

So what I stated and quoted, was in response to that and I didn't do anything but state how he got the money to beat these two out.

From that point you basically went stupid.

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Haha, what? Are you on drugs man?

You quoted EB's big post, not a line... and said "Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election."

So what I stated and quoted, was in response to that and I didn't do anything but state how he got the money to beat these two out.

From that point you basically went stupid.

Sorry I thought anyone out of grade school would have picked up on the fact I was responding to the portion of the post that was BOLDED.
Now I'm the one on drugs and went stupid?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by yys

Now I'm the one on drugs and went stupid?

yeah, totally.. it doesn't really make a shit what you set to bold.

I love it though, I comment you on how he got his money and that it was being spent on his election. Do you comprehend this is what you said, but I gave an explanation?

I'm sure everyone here, clearly, understands the relation of how well Obama speaks and how much money he spent over the 04 candidates. I mean come on, just read that - doesn't that just stand out as a totally logical compassions? You know, let's just focus on your comment like you want.. since it rings right up at the top of SMRT things to say.

[Enemator]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

After Bush?

Probably none.

So of the whites fuck up and don't get elected anymore and a black guy now fucks up...you're electing getting latino's?

[Odin]

Originally Posted by yys

Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election.

People talk about spending money like it is a bad thing. I don't even care for Obama, but is he meant to apologise for spending a lot of money on domestic advertising and domestic events? That's how the economy works. The elections are very good for the advertising industry as a whole.

[yys]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

yeah, totally.. it doesn't really make a shit what you set to bold.

I love it though, I comment you on how he got his money and that it was being spent on his election. Do you comprehend this is what you said, but I gave an explanation?

I'm sure everyone here, clearly, understands the relation of how well Obama speaks and how much money he spent over the 04 candidates. I mean come on, just read that - doesn't that just stand out as a totally logical compassions? You know, let's just focus on your comment like you want.. since it rings right up at the top of SMRT things to say.

Yeah what I was responding to doesn't matter. I guess if you just quote people and then make a statement that has nothing to do with what they were saying like you; then yes, it doesn't matter.

Somebody says this
"Lesson learned in this race is once again if you have good speaking skills in the USA you can pretty much get anywhere"

and I say
"
Lets not forget that he has spent more money on this election then both Bush and Kerry combined spent in the '04 election."
It shouldn't have been hard for an adult who speaks english to see that I was pointing out that it wasn't just Obama's oratory skills that helped him but also the amount of money he raised and spent. Sorry if you didn't pick up on that

and you replied with
"Or we could look at it the correct way and say, the people gave Obama more money than Bush and Kerry combined for the purpose of running for president, so logically he would spend more too."


Correct way? Logically spend more? What does any of that have to do with what I said? Did I say Obama didn't raise more money? No. Did I say he shouldn't have spent the money he raised? No

So what fantasy post were you replying to again?

You go sparky

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

I think America is smarter than that. They don't really expect the whole thing to turn around. They just want to see the direction change and things to start to trend in right direction again. At least that's all I'm looking for.

If you really want positive change, vote in a new Congress.

[Khulan]

Everything is because of fucking Bush. If he did not lead the country so dummy, the current situation would be much better off. Anyhow Obama will clean up all the mess and be a "real black president".