What I Hate About WordPress - GoFuckYourself.com

videosc · 01-19-2008, 08:56 PM

I know WordPress is supposed to be so easy to use that even a caveman can do it, and that's true for making posts, links, etc. But when it comes to customizing the look of your site, I get totally lost. Just doing something simple like changing a header section to insert a company logo is out of my reach, where in Dreamweaver I can do it in 2 seconds.

I even bought the new "WordPress For Dummies" book and that hardly helped.

Just wondering if anyone else feels this way or has any suggestions.

Should I switch to another blog script or CMS?
Should I just hire a designer?
Is there somewhere on the web that offers easy to follow directions for customizing a WP template?

What I LIKE about WP is the ability to write multiple posts at once but have them show up on the site in the future. If I could do this with a regular HTML site I'd probably just stick with Dreamweaver.

zigx · 01-19-2008, 09:00 PM

post on their forums... tht will help a lot and read the docs.

if you understand what the functions do, you can build out the blog no prob.

Are you doing RSS stuff?

trafik2 · 01-19-2008, 09:02 PM

The Firefox Web Developer plugin is very helpful to me when it comes to editing the css file.

wizzart · 01-19-2008, 09:10 PM

Customizing WP is not so hard, first you need to find ready template, 2 columns or 3 columns to instal that, and then make your own layout and chamge pics, little change php files and little more change css files and that is it!

Horny Dude · 01-19-2008, 10:10 PM

Was pretty hard at first trying to get the WP template the way I wanted. But after a while I got the hang of it. I suggest you just look for a template that suits your needs and then just change it from there. Just like what wizzart was saying. There are a ton of free templates out there.

CyberHustler · 01-19-2008, 10:16 PM

....ever tried editing your wp template through dreamweaver?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-19-2008, 11:52 PM

the first couple are hard, after a couple themes you'll get the hang of it, and really, there ain't nothing to it...

starpimps · 01-20-2008, 12:44 AM

once you get a hang of it..takes 2 seconds
read up on some php

OG LennyT · 01-20-2008, 01:27 AM

learn some css and html, editing is no sweat

Rochard · 01-20-2008, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

....ever tried editing your wp template through dreamweaver?

That's what I was thinking.....

Damian_Maxcash · 01-20-2008, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

....ever tried editing your wp template through dreamweaver?

I am pretty sure there is a plugin for Dreamweaver floating around.....

mrwilson · 01-20-2008, 02:50 AM

For a beginner, the best thing to do is open all the php template files in dreamweaver and attach the css style file to each of them.
This way it pulls the template together so you can see what and where you can edit.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-20-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I am pretty sure there is a plugin for Dreamweaver floating around.....

This should help

http://solutoire.com/tagstention/

Vick! · 01-20-2008, 03:16 AM

I think wordpress should be like drag and drop thing. We should be able to drag different components, menu bars, side bars, blogrolls here and there .. after logging in of course.

I guess it would be implemented soon.

Damian_Maxcash · 01-20-2008, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vick!

I think wordpress should be like drag and drop thing. We should be able to drag different components, menu bars, side bars, blogrolls here and there .. after logging in of course.

I guess it would be implemented soon.

You can do most of that already in the newer versions - It uses something called widgets....

SayWhut · 01-20-2008, 05:46 AM

Learn CSS

videosc · 01-20-2008, 08:39 AM

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll look into Tagnation but MrWilson's suggestion sounds interesting:

"For a beginner, the best thing to do is open all the php template files in dreamweaver and attach the css style file to each of them."

For anyone else like me who doesn't know how to attach CSS files I found a helpful link but I don't have permission yet to post the URL here. If you do a search on Google with this phrase:

Dreamweaver - Attaching a CSS Style Sheet to your website

You should find the "Talk Mania" site that has the tutorial. I'll be trying it out later today.

wronginc · 01-20-2008, 09:27 AM

You should really just experiment with wordpress. I used Dreamweaver for years and at first using wordpress was like a foreign language. After many attempts and trials, I started to understand css, php and exactly how wordpress structures a site. Once you get it figured out, then you can really do some great stuff with Dreamweaver and what you learned from wordpress,css, and php.
It will just help you more in the long run if you just keep at it until you understand it better.

just a punk · 01-20-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SayWhut

Learn CSS

...and PHP. It will let to get all the power of WordPress.

Violetta · 01-20-2008, 10:33 AM

I just download a template I like, and change the header and stuff...

Pleasurepays · 01-20-2008, 01:14 PM

you know what i hate?

lazy retards that can't be bothered to make an effort to understand something thats fairly simple and mostly self-explanatory.

FlexxAeon · 01-20-2008, 02:59 PM

gotta move into the new school, where websites are laid out using fancy CSS instead of tables (i fought it for a long time myself..but it is handy)

knowing PHP kicks it into high gear

videosc · 01-24-2008, 04:38 PM

I tried MrWilsons idea but when I went to preview the site it wouldn't do it... said there was no server found. I take it that WP must be installed on a server in order to assemble all the files to see the site.

Anyhow, thanks to everyone here (well, except for one bozo) who took the time to offer words of encouragement and help.

If any other newbies come across this, another helpful person suggested using a plugin called Firebug for Firefox that lets you view all the php and css files on a site so you can deconstruct them and actually change things to see how they look. That's been very helpful.

Nookster · 01-24-2008, 04:47 PM

You should:
1. Learn PHP. That is your only problem.
Editing the themes/active theme of WordPress installs is a fuckin breeze man. You should see how hard it is to do the same with other cms systems. WordPress is by far the easiest. If you can't, simply don't use it. If you can't play with it or learn how to you're in the wrong biz. Simple as that.

Nookster · 01-24-2008, 04:50 PM

And...haven't you seen the "Theme Editor" in the WordPress back-end?? How much easier do you want it??

CarlosTheGaucho · 01-24-2008, 06:24 PM

This is like a very interesting thread for the aspiring wannabe hobby blogger like me. Thanks.

madfuck · 01-24-2008, 06:26 PM

just get the hang of it and you'll be fine

madfuck · 01-24-2008, 06:27 PM

just get the hang of it and you'll be fine

Xyjak · 02-04-2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videosc

Should I just hire a designer?

Here are some cheep premium class WordPress themes. One click install and no pain in the ass.

http://templates.xyjak.com/

CB_Voyta · 02-04-2008, 01:10 PM

Here is a link to an alternative blogging, forum and CMS system...for free.

http://www.blogcms.com

elglorioso · 11-18-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG LennyT

learn some css and html, editing is no sweat

word

d-null · 11-18-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elglorioso

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starpimps · 11-18-2008, 01:46 AM

way to bump the thread asshole

LA Crew · 11-18-2008, 03:10 AM

http://www.adultblogresource.com

Corleone · 11-18-2008, 05:11 AM

wp rocks.. loving it

TheSenator · 11-18-2008, 07:18 AM

ugg...Wordpress is so easy. Just keep playing with the theme and eventually you will get it.

01-19-2008, 08:56 PM	#1
videosc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 375	What I Hate About WordPress I know WordPress is supposed to be so easy to use that even a caveman can do it, and that's true for making posts, links, etc. But when it comes to customizing the look of your site, I get totally lost. Just doing something simple like changing a header section to insert a company logo is out of my reach, where in Dreamweaver I can do it in 2 seconds. I even bought the new "WordPress For Dummies" book and that hardly helped. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way or has any suggestions. Should I switch to another blog script or CMS? Should I just hire a designer? Is there somewhere on the web that offers easy to follow directions for customizing a WP template? What I LIKE about WP is the ability to write multiple posts at once but have them show up on the site in the future. If I could do this with a regular HTML site I'd probably just stick with Dreamweaver.

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mrwilson mrwilson 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ICQ: 465406783 Posts: 5,122	For a beginner, the best thing to do is open all the php template files in dreamweaver and attach the css style file to each of them. This way it pulls the template together so you can see what and where you can edit.

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Vick! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W Posts: 6,882	I think wordpress should be like drag and drop thing. We should be able to drag different components, menu bars, side bars, blogrolls here and there .. after logging in of course. I guess it would be implemented soon. __________________ Affordable Quality Web Hosting

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videosc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 375	Thanks for the help everyone. I'll look into Tagnation but MrWilson's suggestion sounds interesting: "For a beginner, the best thing to do is open all the php template files in dreamweaver and attach the css style file to each of them." For anyone else like me who doesn't know how to attach CSS files I found a helpful link but I don't have permission yet to post the URL here. If you do a search on Google with this phrase: Dreamweaver - Attaching a CSS Style Sheet to your website You should find the "Talk Mania" site that has the tutorial. I'll be trying it out later today.

01-20-2008, 09:27 AM	#18
wronginc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4	You should really just experiment with wordpress. I used Dreamweaver for years and at first using wordpress was like a foreign language. After many attempts and trials, I started to understand css, php and exactly how wordpress structures a site. Once you get it figured out, then you can really do some great stuff with Dreamweaver and what you learned from wordpress,css, and php. It will just help you more in the long run if you just keep at it until you understand it better.

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videosc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 375	I tried MrWilsons idea but when I went to preview the site it wouldn't do it... said there was no server found. I take it that WP must be installed on a server in order to assemble all the files to see the site. Anyhow, thanks to everyone here (well, except for one bozo) who took the time to offer words of encouragement and help. If any other newbies come across this, another helpful person suggested using a plugin called Firebug for Firefox that lets you view all the php and css files on a site so you can deconstruct them and actually change things to see how they look. That's been very helpful.

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Nookster Confirmed IT Professional Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,744	You should: 1. Learn PHP. That is your only problem. Editing the themes/active theme of WordPress installs is a fuckin breeze man. You should see how hard it is to do the same with other cms systems. WordPress is by far the easiest. If you can't, simply don't use it. If you can't play with it or learn how to you're in the wrong biz. Simple as that. __________________ The Best Affiliate Software, Ever.

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