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Old 11-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #51
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Someone said pimproll also have ads on pornhub,but didnt notice that yet.Take a look there.
you missed #10
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #52
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man that "user" who uploads all that shit must have some connection.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:38 PM   #53
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BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:
1. Shaap/Twstys & Nexxtdoorcash (shap posted in this thread that yes he does advertise on tubes like youporn/tube8 and its because thats what his affiliates that trust him want).
2. Pythn/ce you can find their ads all over tubes.
3. brzzers / movbox / sexinurcity, well no explanation needed there hahaha.
4. archivedcash / nichpay and all their other sites. Just look for their links on tube8.
5. hahaha / raagecash etc, see them on tube8.
6. AFF
7. sexsrch
8. naughtyamerican on youporn
9. tiffanyscash on youporn
10. pimprolls buys xsells from pornhub premium.

who else am I missing?

enjoy this vid for now: http://youporn.com/watch/267186/dirt...ing-her-pussy/
Of course many are doing this for their affiliates hahaha thannk you dude :
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Yes we are working with tube sites. It is a decision we made as a company and I'm not going to deny it. I'm running a business and I have to make decisions that are best for my business. That is why my affiliates trust me with their traffic. They know the decisions I make will not only ensure I keep paying them on time monthly but our decisions also allow us to be one of the best at monetizing our affiliates traffic for them.
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:39 PM   #54
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you missed #10
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Old 11-25-2008, 07:40 PM   #55
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OMG come on - I had a 30min convo with Bostone in Amsterdam about my shit and he swore up and down he would take care of the problem. Even shoke his hand and thanked him...

To this day I find my scenes on ALL thier tubes even with my watermark. They are a real class act
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wonder how many people have to be victimized before a single fucking idiot in this biz actually makes a serious effort to protect their rights and their content?
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:37 PM   #57
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Of course all of the MovieRoom vids have been removed...

Seems like posting in a public forum may be a good way to get things to stop... I have a feeling my stuff might not be ripped down for a while now.

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mb you just proved they monitored the network.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:05 PM   #59
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Of course all of the MovieRoom vids have been removed...

Seems like posting in a public forum may be a good way to get things to stop... I have a feeling my stuff might not be ripped down for a while now.

marc

http://www.keezmovies.com/422656 is that yours?

And is it back to biz as normal now? You will keep promoting them?
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Guys, surfers DO upload constantly. You need to start googling up some forums.

Since I have claudia-marie.com I am VERY aware of the surfers uploading. Before I went to all streaming I used to spend hours everyday googling up big tit forums and finding my shit to write dmca's to. Now the guys at removeyourcontent.com do that for me to find any of my old stuff floating around.

And they can confirm to you that "yes" surfers DO upload tons of stuff and then get praised on the forums. It's an entire culture there.

At one point about 6 months ago it got so bad that my entire members area was all over the place. I could put up a new scene and the guys in these forums would be in a contest to see which idiot could upload it first. lol

Gotta admit, the illegitimate tube is a sweet deal. Surfers do all of your work for you and PAY you for the privilege.

I know you guys all have "theories" and "know for a fact" how the tubes do it. But as a guy who knows his niche and writes, shoots, directs, edits, uploads, and updates claudia-marie.com I KNOW how my shit got out there. And it wasn't from piratebay hiring somebody from the phillipines. It was guys joining the site with their ONLY purpose being to download for their other buddies in the big tit forums.

Now that I'm encrypted streaming only...I still go out and keep my eyes open on the forums. And I see them bitching about it.

I'll get a member who will join and IMMEDIATELY write me demanding his money back because he can't download the entire site. I give them their credit back and send them on their way.

They weren't ever gonna be a "real" member of the site and/or rebill. They simply wanted to grab everything I have and upload it.

Don't underestimate the power of the "communities" these guys have created on forums. If you don't believe in it, just look right here at GFY. Look at how many people get totally bent out of shape and crazy over what a bunch of people say on a message board.

It's the same kinda powerful thing on those forums. Try it yourself. Google up some big tit, or interracial, or milf, or latina, or any niche you can think of forums and/or message boards and you'll get your eyes opened.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:31 PM   #61
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Revshareit this is the second time you try to attack us regarding tubes on the board. Your first attempt fell flat.

Everybody has a choice where to send their traffic. If anybody is unhappy with the way I run TwistysCash then they are more than welcome to pull all their traffic and never do business with us again. We have the #1 Babe site online. Many have tried and all have failed to copy us. Besides Playboy there is nobody that has been able to do what we've done in our niche. We have the hottest content online, we convert and our members RETAIN like mad. I'm not forcing anyone to do business with us.
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http://www.keezmovies.com/422656 is that yours?

And is it back to biz as normal now? You will keep promoting them?
Ouch. Thats Kurtov or Kurt he runs or owns Keez...
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BINGO. Somone has to make a list of the ones who advertise or are behind these illegal tubes. here are some that I belive are:



who else am I missing?
11. Totem Cash. Who everyone tells me is a stand up guy but who blows off all my posts in his threads about this.
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Revshareit this is the second time you try to attack us regarding tubes on the board. Your first attempt fell flat.

Everybody has a choice where to send their traffic. If anybody is unhappy with the way I run TwistysCash then they are more than welcome to pull all their traffic and never do business with us again. We have the #1 Babe site online. Many have tried and all have failed to copy us. Besides Playboy there is nobody that has been able to do what we've done in our niche. We have the hottest content online, we convert and our members RETAIN like mad. I'm not forcing anyone to do business with us.
Not attacking. Just thanking you for supporting our local illegal tubes.
You are a standup top notch guy for doing that.

Unlike mediumpimpin.com who actually care about their affiliates. Or the many other babe sites who have the same models/same style content and less saturated than yours
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:39 AM   #67
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Hell the whole warez scene lives from people uploading stuff for free. Just look at some surfer boards like warezbb and others. Do the admins upload all those 1,2gb movies to rapidshare and co? Its the users.. so everyone who denies massive user uploads to tubes just turns on a blind eye.
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Don't be fooled in to thinking that there's no actual users uploading huge movies. I know you think that just because you don't see the sense in doing it. Why would anyone upload stuff for no personal benefit. It seems like a logical argument, but in practice, people do it.

Sites like surfthechannel.com, or anyone of the thousands of copies have users uploading entire tv shows, edited to remove commercials, etc etc. No benefit for doing it, and yet they do it.
sure they do it called access shifting, when they upload such a video they can access it from anywhere they want. They can watch it at home, at work, just by opening a web browser and going to the site.

They can get rid of their locally stored copy and use that web stream as a back up for the video they paid for.

Torrents are the same way, seed to the swarm get rid of the local copy, if i ever want to watch it again, just reconnect to the swarm and recreate the file again.

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Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't tube site owners doing it and pretending to be users. Of course there are, and it may just be that the majority of uploads come this way, but just don't doubt that there are some users doing it too.

i suspect that a lot of uploads are user uploads they are just replicated, a new tube site rips an existing tube sites content, keeps the usernames and uploads the same for the database (syndication) and starts from scratch accepting new submissions.

What was originally user uploads is replicated by the webmaster, it still meets all the conditions of the safe harbor provision so it still dmca protected act.
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MB...I disagree. Who the fuck uploads files that take hours to transfer and locking down their whole bandwidth pipe just because they feel the need to share their porn collection?
There's a black porn board with dudes DEDICATED to uploading porn...There's one thread that's over 150 pages long full of zshare links..He takes the video, RE-EDITS them so that it has his name and the title of the movie along with the scene number and actress....It's been up since 2005 and still being updated.....On that board, the dude is a LEGEND.....

He even has another long thread where he edits it to only show where the girl is really getting fucked hard or really enjoying it like having an orgasm....So I KNOW that there are others out there like this....
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i can't believe you guys are actually arguing over whether or not surfers upload files.

some of you people are just so out of touch with humanity that its totally unreal.
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There's a black porn board with dudes DEDICATED to uploading porn...There's one thread that's over 150 pages long full of zshare links..He takes the video, RE-EDITS them so that it has his name and the title of the movie along with the scene number and actress....It's been up since 2005 and still being updated.....On that board, the dude is a LEGEND.....

He even has another long thread where he edits it to only show where the girl is really getting fucked hard or really enjoying it like having an orgasm....So I KNOW that there are others out there like this....
should be easy to find that guy then and serve him
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should be easy to find that guy then and serve him
He does get "served" everyday. Served a bunch of high fives and slaps on the back. And that guy is just one of thousands and thousands and thousand of guys doing it.

And "serving" someone means spending a nice chunk of change. My lawyer fucking charges me everytime I talk on the phone...and he charges me the minimum which is 30 minutes, even if it's a 2 minute talk.

Lawyers will end up costing you more than "serving" some guy who hasn't got any money to begin with. Best thing is to secure your content, and then hire removeyourcontent.com for a hundred bucks a month and problem solved.

You'd spend more money "serving" ONE guy in a day than you will securing your content and paying removeyourcontent.com in a year.

Simple business decision.
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He does get "served" everyday. Served a bunch of high fives and slaps on the back. And that guy is just one of thousands and thousands and thousand of guys doing it.

And "serving" someone means spending a nice chunk of change. My lawyer fucking charges me everytime I talk on the phone...and he charges me the minimum which is 30 minutes, even if it's a 2 minute talk.

Lawyers will end up costing you more than "serving" some guy who hasn't got any money to begin with. Best thing is to secure your content, and then hire removeyourcontent.com for a hundred bucks a month and problem solved.

You'd spend more money "serving" ONE guy in a day than you will securing your content and paying removeyourcontent.com in a year.

Simple business decision.
agree with you to a point, but if some of the larger programs were to initiate some of these suits, it would send a strong message to the users and uploaders that they could find themselves facing court and the publicity that surrounds it

I'm sure that if some individuals were named, it would send shockwaves through the torrent and uploader communities, and you would see 99% of them not want to upload anymore

this is why stopping happily after a selfish dmca content removal request is successful doesn't really chip away at the problem at all, whereas some cut and dry lawsuits against the uploaders and torrent users would be huge

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I know these are not direct death threats, but sometimes the things we think in our heads should stay there. Carry on...
Good job idiot... This was my way of playing nice and telling you guys to stick to business and leave these types of posts out of this thread.

Enjoy your vacation from GFY.

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Hell the whole warez scene lives from people uploading stuff for free. Just look at some surfer boards like warezbb and others. Do the admins upload all those 1,2gb movies to rapidshare and co? Its the users.. so everyone who denies massive user uploads to tubes just turns on a blind eye.
what does it have to do with anything. even if it is users the company should be monitoring uploads. if they dont and let them go then its there fault
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agree with you to a point, but if some of the larger programs were to initiate some of these suits, it would send a strong message to the users and uploaders that they could find themselves facing court and the publicity that surrounds it

I'm sure that if some individuals were named, it would send shockwaves through the torrent and uploader communities, and you would see 99% of them not want to upload anymore

this is why stopping happily after a selfish dmca content removal request is successful doesn't really chip away at the problem at all, whereas some cut and dry lawsuits against the uploaders and torrent users would be huge
Well let me be more clear....Not only are large programs content ripped off, but DVD's are ripped and uploaded also....Plus they can get scenes from any of the "4000 DVD's for one price" sites and upload those also...More than likely the site they got ripped from didn't even produce the content themselves...
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what does it have to do with anything. even if it is users the company should be monitoring uploads. if they dont and let them go then its there fault
If you had read the thread you would see xxxjay posts, claiming there arent users uploading stuff. Thats the response to it.

Originally Posted by xxxjay
MB...I disagree. Who the fuck uploads files that take hours to transfer and locking down their whole bandwidth pipe just because they feel the need to share their porn collection?
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if your in the tube business it is your responsiblity to not allow illegal uploads or full hardcore scenes. I dont understand why sponsors dont sue tube sites for it. they would win easy. and take everything.

if I catch my content on one trust me Its on..
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if your in the tube business it is your responsiblity to not allow illegal uploads or full hardcore scenes. I dont understand why sponsors dont sue tube sites for it. they would win easy. and take everything.

if I catch my content on one trust me Its on..
Its a greyzone and they take advantage of it.
Ask your lawyer, he will tell you the same.
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If you had read the thread you would see xxxjay posts, claiming there arent users uploading stuff. Thats the response to it.
whether it is or not doesnt really matter if the tube is hosting it illegally they are in the wrong 100% and can be sued big time. whether its the user uploading or the company doing it shady is irrelevant.

If MD was an asshole he could take pornhub to the bank
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Its a greyzone and they take advantage of it.
Ask your lawyer, he will tell you the same.
if they are hosting it then its not a grey zone and your Lawyer has no clue about copyright-infringed images

here is a good attorney for copyright infringment http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Apgoo...216675090.aspx

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I doubt brazzers would knowingly upload movieroom.com stuff themselves since they know Marc from Hoes.com owns it and we do business together... this must be one of my members uploading shit... but isn't there a review process? I would think anything with a watermark should be tossed...
Well done, for one minute I thought this post was serious. Thanks for the laugh

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Old 11-26-2008, 02:27 PM   #86
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How do you feel this thread has changed or will change anything?

Program owners will complain about AFF or Brazzers, etc.. but they never really take a stand or stop pushing sales their way. Why should anyone else? I don't think mb will do it, but he might. xxxjay hasn't, and neither has shap. Don't come to GFY complaining about it and trying to get others to do it if you're not willing to do it yourself.

I did stop pushing AFF during the Zango thing but more and more I'm wondering why I even bothered. If there's an alternative that converts as well, only then does it seem to make sense for me personally to switch.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:39 PM   #87
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How do you feel this thread has changed or will change anything?

Program owners will complain about AFF or Brazzers, etc.. but they never really take a stand or stop pushing sales their way. Why should anyone else? I don't think mb will do it, but he might. xxxjay hasn't, and neither has shap. Don't come to GFY complaining about it and trying to get others to do it if you're not willing to do it yourself.

I did stop pushing AFF during the Zango thing but more and more I'm wondering why I even bothered. If there's an alternative that converts as well, only then does it seem to make sense for me personally to switch.
I agree but if anyone wants to take action call this lawyer http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Apgoo...216675090.aspx

if I catch my exclusive content on a tube site I will take action
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:43 PM   #88
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10. pimprolls buys xsells from pornhub premium.
We do not buy xsells from pornhub. They are being sent to a site called All Network Pass. We do not own that site.

Get your facts straight!
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:58 PM   #89
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:21 PM   #90
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Ouch. Thats Kurtov or Kurt he runs or owns Keez...
Keez, Pornhub, and Brazzers are the same people.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:31 PM   #91
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Keez, Pornhub, and Brazzers are the same people.
I have chatted with Kurt on some trades now I have removed his links

I told him I would remove the links if there is drama. So here we are...

Kurtov where are you man? Come here and fix this mess.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:49 PM   #92
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We do not buy xsells from pornhub. They are being sent to a site called All Network Pass. We do not own that site.

Get your facts straight!
up until yesterday it was to http://www.SexPass.com I even believe someone posted a screeen cap of it weeks ago. Today its changed to hahaha.
Nice fast switch out, hope it stays that way.
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If people would start uploading time bombs in some videos every one of these sites would be taken to their knees.

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I have a 20mbs connection. I'm game.
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How do you feel this thread has changed or will change anything?

Program owners will complain about AFF or Brazzers, etc.. but they never really take a stand or stop pushing sales their way. Why should anyone else? I don't think mb will do it, but he might. xxxjay hasn't, and neither has shap. Don't come to GFY complaining about it and trying to get others to do it if you're not willing to do it yourself.

I did stop pushing AFF during the Zango thing but more and more I'm wondering why I even bothered. If there's an alternative that converts as well, only then does it seem to make sense for me personally to switch.
the bottom line is those guys will scoff and laugh at an individual affiliate or two, but if enough noise is made and more and more affiliates take notice of the lists of the "bad apples" that are cooperating and advertising on the ripoff sites, then it can make a difference....... if they didn't care, why would they bother to be promoting themselves on here?

kudos to those that are making lists of sponsors that are in bed with the rip off tube sites, and kudos to them for keeping those lists prominently bumped on the forums
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You really do need Will<something> (forgot name). He was relentless on that shit His ban was also supposed to be short :P
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You really do need Will<something> (forgot name). He was relentless on that shit His ban was also supposed to be short :P
He doesnt wanna return here.
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