PROVEN: How to make 10k+ Per Week - GoFuckYourself.com

alias · 11-27-2008, 04:05 PM

1. Found a corporation and contract 3rd party billing accounts that support multiple pre- checked cross sales & post processed interstitials.

2. Come up with a catchy name.

3. Get some Exclusive/ Semi-Exclusive Content. Choose a few niches, copy other programs if you have no ideas.. .

4. Purchase servers & NATS.

5. Butter up some "known" webmasters. Get friendly with these douchebags, listen to them talk about their cat or gf, kids etc.. Act interested! Use smilies

Pay them.

6. Too much ball cradling? Hire some "reps" to do it for you. [New employees are a great excuse for a gfy thread]. Ask your buttery contacts to bump it.

7. Post lots of content threads, pay any interested webmaster something to follow you like the pied piper [wm's are mostly whores anyway] .

8. Sit back and jerk off or get high or something. All those raped porn surfers that are now burned should cover the essentials [escalade lease and trophy wife with a pathology for shopping].

9. Wait for the future, I mean this scam will last forever right.. .

TeenSluts · 11-27-2008, 04:07 PM

topdogs 4 L

alias · 11-27-2008, 04:10 PM

4L

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Machete_ · 11-27-2008, 04:15 PM

10k+ Per Week is SO 2006

No, you need to run blogs - or virtual hosting - or design myspace skins
Then you make THOUSANDS a month http://www.retireat21.com/blog/top-2...eurs-under-21/

Bojangles · 11-27-2008, 04:40 PM

Sweeeeeeet

alias · 11-27-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

10k+ Per Week is SO 2006

No, you need to run blogs - or virtual hosting - or design myspace skins
Then you make THOUSANDS a month http://www.retireat21.com/blog/top-2...eurs-under-21/

damn they are a creepy sort of a bunch

[db] · 11-27-2008, 05:31 PM

Are you suggesting running a program that offers a certain payout per signup and then ripping off your affiliates? That would be the only way to make 10k/month with your model easily.

If you're talking about running a legit PPS program that pays, there is a lot more to it than that. It's not easy to be that profitable paying 30-40 per join without shaving a ton. Retaining members is an art form 99.9% of people don't understand.

If you're talking about a partnership program, you are way off. You have to have really good sites to get nearly enough people to promote you to make that kind of a profit.

rowan · 11-27-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db]

Are you suggesting running a program that offers a certain payout per signup and then ripping off your affiliates? That would be the only way to make 10k/month with your model easily.

If you're talking about running a legit PPS program that pays, there is a lot more to it than that. It's not easy to be that profitable paying 30-40 per join without shaving a ton. Retaining members is an art form 99.9% of people don't understand.

If you're talking about a partnership program, you are way off. You have to have really good sites to get nearly enough people to promote you to make that kind of a profit.

From the OP:

"1. Found a corporation and contract 3rd party billing accounts that support multiple pre- checked cross sales & post processed interstitials."

I'd say that's a large part of the profit.

Top notch!!

[db] · 11-27-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

From the OP:

"1. Found a corporation and contract 3rd party billing accounts that support multiple pre- checked cross sales & post processed interstitials."

I'd say that's a large part of the profit.

Top notch!!

It's still easy to lose money running a PPS program no matter how many pre-checked cross-sales and other bullshit you use.

Shaving is the only way 80% of the programs out there keep the lights on. Most everyone shaves from small webmasters and people who just sign up and send traffic without contacting anyone, but when you have to shave every one of your affiliates significantly to be profitable you won't get other affiliate programs sending you their exit traffic, unless they're your buddies, and that is the best way to make big money running paysites.

alias · 11-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Shit nigga, 10k a week! Fuck legit, we are trying to make money not friends. Churn & burn motherfuckers! What more is there to it? You just need like 10 shoots per site.. .

Fuck it just get 3 shoots for the tour and put scraped galleries off the hun for the members area, your wm's won't notice. With all those x-sales why bother trying to retain members? Just gank those pathetic tossers that do sign up with a years worth of charges in 24 hours! Updating your member's area is for fags.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db]

Are you suggesting running a program that offers a certain payout per signup and then ripping off your affiliates? That would be the only way to make 10k/month with your model easily.

If you're talking about running a legit PPS program that pays, there is a lot more to it than that. It's not easy to be that profitable paying 30-40 per join without shaving a ton. Retaining members is an art form 99.9% of people don't understand.

If you're talking about a partnership program, you are way off. You have to have really good sites to get nearly enough people to promote you to make that kind of a profit.

TheDoc · 11-27-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db]

It's still easy to lose money running a PPS program no matter how many pre-checked cross-sales and other bullshit you use.

Shaving is the only way 80% of the programs out there keep the lights on. Most everyone shaves from small webmasters and people who just sign up and send traffic without contacting anyone, but when you have to shave every one of your affiliates significantly to be profitable you won't get other affiliate programs sending you their exit traffic, unless they're your buddies, and that is the best way to make big money running paysites.

It's almost impossible for a PPS program to loose money. Have you ever seen a 30 million + revshare program? Prob not even 10 million. The ONLY people that size are PPS programs. And they are the only ones that can reach that size for a reason.

Programs don't need to shave, and I really don't think many do. A shaving program is a dead program. The program doesn't know what the Webmaster thinks they should convert at. And the fact shaving is easy to catch when tons of webmasters do test signups...

Robbie · 11-27-2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

Shit nigga, 10k a week! Fuck legit, we are trying to make money not friends. Churn & burn motherfuckers! What more is there to it? You just need like 10 shoots per site.. .

Fuck it just get 3 shoots for the tour and put scraped galleries off the hun for the members area, your wm's won't notice. With all those x-sales why bother trying to retain members? Just gank those pathetic tossers that do sign up with a years worth of charges in 24 hours! Updating your member's area is for fags.

You just described the "mega porn sites" back in 1997 The more things change, the more they stay the same. Just a new batch of people figuring it out for the first time.

Paysites are FAR superior to what they were back then. I can't say that I've seen many bad members areas these days. Back then, we had to buy content discs (I was one of the first ones going to shows and asking for hosted galleries from all the big boys) make our own content and host everything ourselves to make a sale.

And then when you actually went into the members areas of the paysites...Wooo, it was bad. Really bad. There would be about 20 links (text) to different photo sets of real old zmaster pic content. And then a link to the old pornholio feeds. And that was it.

Most times the picture content was just the same 20 sets spread across all the paysites (No, the member didn't get a "pass" to all the sites back then) So if you bought a membership to "Major Melons" it was the same content as on "Karas"

That is, if you want to call 20 picture sets "content" lol

The whole feature of the sites back then was the pornholio feeds. And the x-sells went like hotcakes...but not as fast as the multi-million pop-ups that would shut your poor 400 mhz cpu computer down into a hard boot.

That was the business model back then. Create a "network" of 50 paysites with the same content and then retain by use of pornholio feeds (nobody had movies on their sites back then, except for Blacks On Blondes who were awesome), and then pop up to your "competitors" sites and sell clicks back and forth.

And no, it wasn't 10 k a week. I make that as an affiliate for Gods' sake. It was...and IS a helluva lot more than that bro.

It's just amazing to me how many people who are supposed to be in this business don't really know very much about how it works and who made and makes money and who didn't and doesn't and why.

alias · 11-27-2008, 10:43 PM

Back in the old days you just had to hope the surfers forgot to cancel, now they are getting fucked pretty hard from the get go. This was intended as a sarcastic thread that pokes a bit of fun at the currently popular topic of cross sales and $100 payouts.

Regardless of the past, I do feel that an approach based on actual value that does not underestimate the customer is more sustainable than the current charade of: buy X but we will charge you for X+Y+Z.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

You just described the "mega porn sites" back in 1997 The more things change, the more they stay the same. Just a new batch of people figuring it out for the first time.

Paysites are FAR superior to what they were back then. I can't say that I've seen many bad members areas these days. Back then, we had to buy content discs (I was one of the first ones going to shows and asking for hosted galleries from all the big boys) make our own content and host everything ourselves to make a sale.

And then when you actually went into the members areas of the paysites...Wooo, it was bad. Really bad. There would be about 20 links (text) to different photo sets of real old zmaster pic content. And then a link to the old pornholio feeds. And that was it.

Most times the picture content was just the same 20 sets spread across all the paysites (No, the member didn't get a "pass" to all the sites back then) So if you bought a membership to "Major Melons" it was the same content as on "Karas"

That is, if you want to call 20 picture sets "content" lol

The whole feature of the sites back then was the pornholio feeds. And the x-sells went like hotcakes...but not as fast as the multi-million pop-ups that would shut your poor 400 mhz cpu computer down into a hard boot.

That was the business model back then. Create a "network" of 50 paysites with the same content and then retain by use of pornholio feeds (nobody had movies on their sites back then, except for Blacks On Blondes who were awesome), and then pop up to your "competitors" sites and sell clicks back and forth.

And no, it wasn't 10 k a week. I make that as an affiliate for Gods' sake. It was...and IS a helluva lot more than that bro.

It's just amazing to me how many people who are supposed to be in this business don't really know very much about how it works and who made and makes money and who didn't and doesn't and why.

Robbie · 11-27-2008, 10:57 PM

They were getting x-sold back then too. Prechecks are nothing new. Hidden shit is nothing new either. As I've said before...there was a LOT of money made back then using very NASTY dialers that would install themselves in a hidden manner and change your dial up service and charge crazy prices like 5 to 10 bucks a MINUTE while you surfed. A x-sell? That ain't shit compared to the MILLIONS of dollars that people were ripped off for.

How do you think so many of those adult internet "pioneers" retired before 2000? I still remember the feeding frenzy around 2002 when the last countries left to pull the dialer off were the European countries. And as one by one they figured it out and made it illegal the shit got crazier and more aggressive.

But damn it was a lot of easy, easy money. x-sells? Again, they suck when people hide 'em and scam with them. But they are very small potatoes compared to the real scamming that took place a few years ago.

When a surfer ended up with a $10,000 phone bill and never even bought a membership to any paysite...but merely surfed a free site without even clicking on shit...well, THAT should have stopped everybody from buying porn according to all the theorists that I hear now.

But it didn't. And it won't. Just putting some perspective on it.

$10,000 phone bills and never intending to buy anything VS Actually buying something and getting hit with a dollar trial x-sell in the hopes it will convert into a $30 membership without you noticing it are not even in the same league.

But you sure would think it was to hear a lot of the newer or less informed people on GFY who are so shocked over x-sells.

Speaking of getting scammed...I bought my Prowler back in 2002. It was the final year they made 'em. And like an idiot I let the dealership take me to the cleaners. I bought "Product" Which is extra warranties. Which is how they make their money.

I bought all my tune ups and oil changes and ANYTHING that needed to be serviced on that Prowler! And the deal was 60,000 miles. But the fine print said "5 years"

Didn't notice that. They didn't stop me and say:"Listen to uphold my sense of ethics I want to point this out to you, even though you probably won't spend any money then and I won't make as much to take care of my family"

No they didn't do that.

So now I have a "warranty" that cost several thousand dollars. And I have 22,000 miles on my now 6 year old car. I got 7 oil changes for a few grand. lol

I'm never gonna buy another car again! Oh wait a minute...I bought 4 more cars since then...never mind.

Dagwolf · 11-28-2008, 02:59 AM

Damn, wish I still had my deanna troi picture... I sense sarcasm.

alias · 11-28-2008, 07:12 AM

Point duly noted Robbie, thanks for the perspective.

CaptainHowdy · 11-28-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

5. Butter up some "known" webmasters. Get friendly with these douchebags, listen to them talk about their cat or gf, kids etc.. Act interested! Use smilies

Pay them.

...

smutnut · 11-28-2008, 11:29 AM

Dude you should just double this up and do 20k a week! What's the difference? Then at the end of one year you'll have around a million. Invest that into insider stock trading and at the end of the next year you'll have around 100 million. Then use that to con the terrorists and sell them fake suitcase bombs and shit.

Damn you could be a billionaire in no time!

tranza · 11-28-2008, 11:51 AM

Ok then..............

StuartD · 11-28-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

9. Wait for the future, I mean this scam will last forever right...

That's the problem, it really doesn't.

J. Falcon · 11-28-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

(nobody had movies on their sites back then, except for Blacks On Blondes who were awesome)

Isn't it true they stole their interracial video content? What I mean by that is, these videos were not even theirs.

alias · 11-28-2008, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD

That's the problem, it really doesn't.

exactly!

Robbie · 11-28-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Isn't it true they stole their interracial video content? What I mean by that is, these videos were not even theirs.

I heard that. But I don't know the exact details. Seemed kinda weird to me that blacksonblondes were so big for so many years, and then all of a sudden their content was declared as stolen content.

Don't know the whole story behind it. Just know I made a lot of money with blacksonblondes back then. I still get the odd epoch check here and there from memberships I sold 8 years ago.

Whatever the case is, I can only determine that it was resolved since dogfart is still going strong. Wasn't it anabolic that said "hey that's our content"? And was it really "stolen" or was it a business relationship gone bad between blacksonblondes and anabolic? I can't speak intelligently on the subject because I really don't know. Might just be a case of business deal going south and then people repeating the "stolen" thing on message boards until it became accepted fact?

yys · 11-28-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

They were getting x-sold back then too. Prechecks are nothing new. Hidden shit is nothing new either. As I've said before...there was a LOT of money made back then using very NASTY dialers that would install themselves in a hidden manner and change your dial up service and charge crazy prices like 5 to 10 bucks a MINUTE while you surfed. A x-sell? That ain't shit compared to the MILLIONS of dollars that people were ripped off for.

You mean that wasn't a real video codec I had people install to see the free video?

Robbie · 11-28-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by yys

You mean that wasn't a real video codec I had people install to see the free video?

I'm afraid not bro, and there's no Santa Claus either.

I'm pretty sure that the link for "optimizing" your dial up speed wasn't exactly truthful either...

yys · 11-28-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm afraid not bro, and there's no Santa Claus either.

I'm pretty sure that the link for "optimizing" your dial up speed wasn't exactly truthful either...

No Santa Claus?

I'm still putting out my stocking

[db] · 11-28-2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's almost impossible for a PPS program to loose money.

Dead wrong. PPS programs are the biggest because that is the way most webmasters prefer being paid. If recurring were more popular, the biggest programs would be revshare, but it would be the same players running the successful ones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Programs don't need to shave, and I really don't think many do. A shaving program is a dead program.

Dead wrong x2. I'd bet $5000 without doing any GFY searches that you haven never worked at a high level with any PPS program. (or you work for one now and are being dishonest)

yys · 11-29-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by [db]

Dead wrong x2. I'd bet $5000 without doing any GFY searches that you haven never worked at a high level with any PPS program. (or you work for one now and are being dishonest)

I'm pretty sure you'd lose that bet. You might want to retract it.

There is a good thread from back in the day that breaks down how PPS programs work. It gives you some ideas how programs go about their calculations as to the overall value of each signup an affiliate sends them. If my memory serves me correct TheDoc was one of the better contributors to that thread. Unfortunately, none of the owners that contributed wanted to share their spreadsheets

It was certainly one of the better business threads on GFY since I've been here and thats been awhile.

Dirty D · 11-29-2008, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

And no, it wasn't 10 k a week. I make that as an affiliate for Gods' sake. It was...and IS a helluva lot more than that bro.

It's just amazing to me how many people who are supposed to be in this business don't really know very much about how it works and who made and makes money and who didn't and doesn't and why.

Quoted for Truth.

Robbie, you have been spewing too much wisdom lately... This is GFY.
As the Talking Heads said "Stop Making Sense!"

TheDoc · 11-29-2008, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db]

Dead wrong. PPS programs are the biggest because that is the way most webmasters prefer being paid. If recurring were more popular, the biggest programs would be revshare, but it would be the same players running the successful ones.

It is the way the Webmaster prefers being paid. However a 50/50 program can only ever make more than 50% profit, it's impossible. A PPS program on the other hand makes money hand over fist as Webmaster bounce through sites. When you stop pushing a PPS program/site, the program turns major major profits. When a Webmaster stops pushing on Revshare, the program still pays 50% and doesn't get any benefits back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [db]

Dead wrong x2. I'd bet $5000 without doing any GFY searches that you haven never worked at a high level with any PPS program. (or you work for one now and are being dishonest)

Would you like my address so you can send that $5k on over? Well, I guess I never 'worked at', I was more the owner/partner.

11-27-2008, 04:05 PM	#1
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	PROVEN: How to make 10k+ Per Week 1. Found a corporation and contract 3rd party billing accounts that support multiple pre- checked cross sales & post processed interstitials. 2. Come up with a catchy name. 3. Get some Exclusive/ Semi-Exclusive Content. Choose a few niches, copy other programs if you have no ideas.. . 4. Purchase servers & NATS. 5. Butter up some "known" webmasters. Get friendly with these douchebags, listen to them talk about their cat or gf, kids etc.. Act interested! Use smilies Pay them. 6. Too much ball cradling? Hire some "reps" to do it for you. [New employees are a great excuse for a gfy thread]. Ask your buttery contacts to bump it. 7. Post lots of content threads, pay any interested webmaster something to follow you like the pied piper [wm's are mostly whores anyway] . 8. Sit back and jerk off or get high or something. All those raped porn surfers that are now burned should cover the essentials [escalade lease and trophy wife with a pathology for shopping]. 9. Wait for the future, I mean this scam will last forever right.. . __________________ https://porncorporation.com

11-27-2008, 04:10 PM	#3
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	4L message too short __________________ https://porncorporation.com

11-27-2008, 10:57 PM	#14
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	They were getting x-sold back then too. Prechecks are nothing new. Hidden shit is nothing new either. As I've said before...there was a LOT of money made back then using very NASTY dialers that would install themselves in a hidden manner and change your dial up service and charge crazy prices like 5 to 10 bucks a MINUTE while you surfed. A x-sell? That ain't shit compared to the MILLIONS of dollars that people were ripped off for. How do you think so many of those adult internet "pioneers" retired before 2000? I still remember the feeding frenzy around 2002 when the last countries left to pull the dialer off were the European countries. And as one by one they figured it out and made it illegal the shit got crazier and more aggressive. But damn it was a lot of easy, easy money. x-sells? Again, they suck when people hide 'em and scam with them. But they are very small potatoes compared to the real scamming that took place a few years ago. When a surfer ended up with a $10,000 phone bill and never even bought a membership to any paysite...but merely surfed a free site without even clicking on shit...well, THAT should have stopped everybody from buying porn according to all the theorists that I hear now. But it didn't. And it won't. Just putting some perspective on it. $10,000 phone bills and never intending to buy anything VS Actually buying something and getting hit with a dollar trial x-sell in the hopes it will convert into a $30 membership without you noticing it are not even in the same league. But you sure would think it was to hear a lot of the newer or less informed people on GFY who are so shocked over x-sells. Speaking of getting scammed...I bought my Prowler back in 2002. It was the final year they made 'em. And like an idiot I let the dealership take me to the cleaners. I bought "Product" Which is extra warranties. Which is how they make their money. I bought all my tune ups and oil changes and ANYTHING that needed to be serviced on that Prowler! And the deal was 60,000 miles. But the fine print said "5 years" Didn't notice that. They didn't stop me and say:"Listen to uphold my sense of ethics I want to point this out to you, even though you probably won't spend any money then and I won't make as much to take care of my family" No they didn't do that. So now I have a "warranty" that cost several thousand dollars. And I have 22,000 miles on my now 6 year old car. I got 7 oil changes for a few grand. lol I'm never gonna buy another car again! Oh wait a minute...I bought 4 more cars since then...never mind. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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11-28-2008, 07:12 AM	#16
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	Point duly noted Robbie, thanks for the perspective. __________________ https://porncorporation.com

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11-27-2008, 04:15 PM	#4
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	10k+ Per Week is SO 2006 No, you need to run blogs - or virtual hosting - or design myspace skins Then you make THOUSANDS a month http://www.retireat21.com/blog/top-2...eurs-under-21/

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11-27-2008, 05:31 PM	#7
[db] Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 327	Are you suggesting running a program that offers a certain payout per signup and then ripping off your affiliates? That would be the only way to make 10k/month with your model easily. If you're talking about running a legit PPS program that pays, there is a lot more to it than that. It's not easy to be that profitable paying 30-40 per join without shaving a ton. Retaining members is an art form 99.9% of people don't understand. If you're talking about a partnership program, you are way off. You have to have really good sites to get nearly enough people to promote you to make that kind of a profit.

11-28-2008, 11:29 AM	#18
smutnut So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,889	Dude you should just double this up and do 20k a week! What's the difference? Then at the end of one year you'll have around a million. Invest that into insider stock trading and at the end of the next year you'll have around 100 million. Then use that to con the terrorists and sell them fake suitcase bombs and shit. Damn you could be a billionaire in no time!

11-28-2008, 11:51 AM	#19
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Ok then.............. __________________ I'm just a newbie.