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Overload · 12-13-2008, 10:10 PM

one more funny thing to think about ... the towers came down in a big fire ... leaving only dust and tiny bits of debris ... but ... HEY! they found PASSPORTS of the terorists who flew the planes? oh my ... sure, all burnt but the crucial papers to identify the culprits were intact? c'mon! use yer brains! aint that trash after all?

stickyfingerz · 12-13-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kandah

Why are you arguing about diesel this diesel that. Look at the video, the building came down like someone blew on a house of cards. Ridicolous to say it was due to natural damage given the circumstances.

I like ya man, but you are a tinfoil hat lover. lol

The Duck · 12-14-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I like ya man, but you are a tinfoil hat lover. lol

If there was a fucking tinfoil suit, I would buy it

cykoe6 · 12-14-2008, 09:36 AM

Threads like this are actually quite helpful as they help separate those that are ordinary everyday imbeciles from those that are completely unhinged.

SeanHart · 12-17-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

Threads like this are actually quite helpful as they help separate those that are ordinary everyday imbeciles from those that are completely unhinged.

Yes, we are all as crazy and look like that guy in your avatar....but yet you still haven't answered my question.

BeHeadR · 12-17-2008, 04:41 PM

Ok - first I don't know why on earth people focus so much on the way the towers collapsed - in the big picture it is totally irrelevant and has been used as a red herring.

So let's start with some undisputed, provable facts:

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1999: British Intelligence Warns Al-Qaeda Plans to Use Aircraft, Possibly as Flying Bombs

MI6, the British intelligence agency, gives a secret report to liaison staff at the US embassy in London. The reports states that al-Qaeda has plans to use ?commercial aircraft? in ?unconventional ways,? ?possibly as flying bombs.? [Sunday Times (London), 6/9/2002]

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March 1999: Germany Provides CIA Hijacker?s Name and Telephone Number

German intelligence gives the CIA the first name of hijacker Marwan Alshehhi and his telephone number in the United Arab Emirates. The Germans learned the information from surveillance of suspected Islamic militants. They tell the CIA that Alshehhi has been in contact with suspected al-Qaeda members Mohammed Haydar Zammar and Mamoun Darkazanli. He is described as a United Arab Emirates student who has spent some time studying in Germany. [US Congress, 7/24/2003 ; Deutsche Presse-Agentur (Hamburg), 8/13/2003; New York Times, 2/24/2004] The Germans consider this information ?particularly valuable? and ask the CIA to track Alshehhi, but the CIA never responds until after the 9/11 attacks. The CIA decides at the time that this ?Marwan? is probably an associate of bin Laden but never track him down. It is not clear why the CIA fails to act, or if they learn his last name before 9/11. [New York Times, 2/24/2004] The Germans monitor other calls between Alshehhi and Zammar, but it isn?t clear if the CIA is also told of these or not.

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August 12, 2000: Italian Intelligence Wiretap of Al-Qaeda Cell Reveals Plan for Massive Aircraft-based Strike

Italian intelligence successfully wiretaps an al-Qaeda cell in Milan, Italy, starting in late 1999. [Boston Globe, 8/4/2002] In a wiretapped conversation from this day, Abdulsalam Ali Abdulrahman, a section chief in Yemen?s Political Security Organization (PSO - roughly the equivalent to the FBI in the US) traveling on a diplomatic passport (see Spring-Summer 1998), talks about a massive strike against the enemies of Islam involving aircraft and the sky. The conversation takes place in a car on the way to a terrorist summit near Bologna (see August 12, 2000 and Shortly After), and the person Abdulrahman talks to is Mahmoud Es Sayed, a close associate of al-Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri (see Before Spring 2000). There are several significant aspects to the conversation:

Abdulrahman makes comments indicating he has foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. He says that he is ?studying airlines,? comments, ?Our focus is only on the air,? and tells Es Sayed to remember the words ?above the head.? He also says that next time they meet he hopes to bring Es Sayed ?a window or piece of the airplane,? and that the security on Alitalia and at Rome airport is poor. The name of the operation is given as ?Jihadia,? and Abdulrahman says, ?the big blow will come from the other country: one of those blows no one can ever forget.? He adds: ?[It is] moving from south to north, from east to west: whoever created this plan is crazy, but he?s also a genius. It will leave them speechless.? He also says: ?We can fight any power using candles and airplanes: they will not be able to stop us with even their most powerful weapons. We must hit them. And keep your head up.? Remember, the danger in the airports.? If it happens the newspapers from all over the world will write about it.?

Es Sayed remarks, ?I know brothers who went to America with the trick of the wedding publications.? The phrase ?Big wedding? is sometimes used by al-Qaeda as code for a bombing or attack, including 9/11 (see November 30, 1999 and Late Summer 2001), so, taken together with Abdulrahman?s remarks, this indicates an unconventional attack in the US using aircraft;

Beginning in October 2000, FBI experts will help Italian police analyze the intercepts and warnings. Related conversations are overheard early the next year (see January 24, 2001 and February 2001). The Italians understood enough to give the US an attack warning in March 2001 (see March 2001).

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January 24, 2001: Italians Hear of Brothers Going to US for ?Very, Very Secret? Plan, Other Clues

On this day, Italian intelligence hears an interesting wiretapped conversation eerily similar to the one from August 12, 2000 (see August 12, 2000). This one occurs between al-Qaeda operatives Mahmoud Es Sayed (see Summer 2000) and Ben Soltane Adel, two members of al-Qaeda?s Milan cell. Adel asks, in reference to fake documents, ?Will these work for the brothers who are going to the United States?? Sayed responds angrily, saying: ?don?t ever say those words again, not even joking!? If it?s necessary? whatever place we may be, come up and talk in my ear, because these are very important things. You must know? that this plan is very, very secret, as if you were protecting the security of the state.? This will be only one of many clues found from the Italian wiretaps and passed on to US intelligence in March 2001 (see March 2001). However, they apparently will not be properly understood until after 9/11. Adel is later arrested and convicted of belonging to a terrorist cell, and Es Sayed will flee to Afghanistan in July 2001. [Guardian, 5/30/2002]

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June 2001: Germans Warn of Plan to Use Aircraft as Missiles on US and Israeli Symbols

German intelligence warns the CIA, Britain?s intelligence agency, and Israel?s Mossad that Middle Eastern militants are planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack ?American and Israeli symbols, which stand out.? A later article quotes unnamed German intelligence sources who state the information was coming from Echelon surveillance technology, and that British intelligence had access to the same warnings. However, there were other informational sources, including specific information and hints given to, but not reported by, Western and Near Eastern news media six months before 9/11. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Frankfurt), 9/11/2001; Washington Post, 9/14/2001; Fox News, 5/17/2002]

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June 13, 2001: Egypt Warns that Bin Laden Wants to Assassinate President Bush with an Explosives-Filled Airplane

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak later claims that Egyptian intelligence discovers a ?communiqué from bin Laden saying he wanted to assassinate President Bush and other G8 heads of state during their summit in Genoa, Italy? on this day. The communiqué specifically mentions this would be done via ?an airplane stuffed with explosives.? The US and Italy are sent urgent warnings of this. [New York Times, 9/26/2001] Mubarak will claim that Egyptian intelligence officials informed American intelligence officers between March and May 2001 that an Egyptian agent had penetrated al-Qaeda. Presumably, this explains how Egypt is able to give the US these warnings. [New York Times, 6/4/2002]

HomerSimpson · 12-17-2008, 04:43 PM

it was inside job
there are like 10.000 threads on gfy about it...
nobody gives a fuck anymore...

BeHeadR · 12-17-2008, 04:43 PM

A little more....

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July 16, 2001: British Spy Agencies Warn Al-Qaeda Is in The Final Stages of Attack in the West

British spy agencies send a report to British Prime Minister Tony Blair and other top officials warning that al-Qaeda is in ?the final stages? of preparing an attack in the West. The prediction is ?based on intelligence gleaned not just from [British intelligence] but also from US agencies, including the CIA and the National Security Agency,? which cooperate with the British. ?The contents of the July 16 warning would have been passed to the Americans, Whitehall sources confirmed.? The report states there is ?an acute awareness? that the attack is ?a very serious threat.? [London Times, 6/14/2002]

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Late July 2001: Egypt Warns CIA of 20 Al-Qaeda Operatives in US; Four Training to Fly; CIA Is Not Interested

CBS later reports, in a long story on another topic: ?Just days after [Mohamed] Atta return[s] to the US from Spain, Egyptian intelligence in Cairo says it received a report from one of its operatives in Afghanistan that 20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas. To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn?t sound terribly alarming, but they [pass] on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. The request never [comes].? [CBS News, 10/9/2002] This appears to be just one of several accurate Egyptian warnings from their informants inside al-Qaeda.

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Late Summer 2001: Jordan Warns US that Aircraft Will Be Used in Major Attack Inside the US

Jordanian intelligence (the GID) makes a communications intercept deemed so important that King Abdullah?s men relay it to Washington, probably through the CIA station in Amman. To make doubly sure the message gets through it is passed through an Arab intermediary to a German intelligence agent. The message states that a major attack, code named ?The Big Wedding,? is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. ?When it became clear that the information was embarrassing to Bush administration officials and congressmen who at first denied that there had been any such warnings before September 11, senior Jordanian officials backed away from their earlier confirmations.? The Christian Science Monitor will call the story ?confidently authenticated? even though Jordan has backed away from it. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/2002; Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/2002] It has been reported elsewhere that in July 2001, Jordan warns the US that al-Qaeda is planning an attack inside the US, but it is unknown if this is referring to the same warning or a separate one (see July 2001). In late July 2001, the king of Jordan will offer the US to send two battalions of Jordanian special forces to Afghanistan to eliminate al-Qaeda havens there (see July 24, 2001).

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August 2001: Russia Warns US of Suicide Pilots

Russian President Vladimir Putin warns the US that suicide pilots are training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/2002] The head of Russian intelligence Nikolai Patrushev also later states, ?We had clearly warned them? on several occasions, but they ?did not pay the necessary attention.? [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/2001] A Russian newspaper on September 12, 2001, will claim, ?Russian Intelligence agents know the organizers and executors of these terrorist attacks. More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation to these actions a couple of weeks before they happened.? Interestingly, the article will claim that at least two of the militants were Muslim radicals from Uzbekistan. [Izvestia, 9/12/2001]

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Early August 2001: Britain Warns US Again; Specifies Multiple Airplane Hijackings

Britain gives the US another warning about an al-Qaeda attack. The previous British warning on July 16, 2001 (see July 16, 2001), was vague as to method, but this warning specifies multiple airplane hijackings. This warning is said to reach President Bush. [Sunday Herald (Glasgow), 5/19/2002]

BeHeadR · 12-17-2008, 04:44 PM

lolz.

In 2002, Rice said, "I don't think anybody could have predicted that those people could take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." But when presented with overwhelming evidence that the administration had been warned about such a plot, she admitted privately to the 9/11 Commission that she "misspoke." Yet, even after this admission, she proceeded to repeat the same claim, writing in a recent Washington Post op-ed, "we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles."

White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer echoed Rice's remarks: "Never did we imagine what would take place on September 11 where people use those airplanes as missiles and weapons."

President Bush on April 18: "Nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government, could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale."

March 24: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told the Commission: "I knew of no intelligence during the six-plus months leading up to September 11 to indicate terrorists would hijack commercial airlines, use them as missiles to fly into the Pentagon or the World Trade Center towers."

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BeHeadR Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 1,152	lolz. In 2002, Rice said, "I don't think anybody could have predicted that those people could take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." But when presented with overwhelming evidence that the administration had been warned about such a plot, she admitted privately to the 9/11 Commission that she "misspoke." Yet, even after this admission, she proceeded to repeat the same claim, writing in a recent Washington Post op-ed, "we received no intelligence that terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles." White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer echoed Rice's remarks: "Never did we imagine what would take place on September 11 where people use those airplanes as missiles and weapons." President Bush on April 18: "Nobody in our government, at least, and I don't think the prior government, could envision flying airplanes into buildings on such a massive scale." March 24: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told the Commission: "I knew of no intelligence during the six-plus months leading up to September 11 to indicate terrorists would hijack commercial airlines, use them as missiles to fly into the Pentagon or the World Trade Center towers." __________________ ICQ 40402622 The only sig on GFY without spam! Last edited by BeHeadR; 12-17-2008 at 04:49 PM..