OK, so business sucks....conversion ratios are lower than ever - GoFuckYourself.com

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:19 PM

right? Now lets see the liars step up to the plate.

qxm · 12-01-2008, 10:22 PM

duno what u talking about .. general teen niche is converting at 1:126 for me ... gotta try it out some time son ..

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Number1Thumb · 12-01-2008, 10:24 PM

AFF is converting 1:8 for me from yahoo chat rooms

My bad its not 2003 anymore, damnit

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm

duno what u talking about .. general teen niche is converting at 1:126 for me ... gotta try it out some time son ..

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son??? lol

d-null · 12-01-2008, 10:28 PM

you seem to be missing the boat, haven't you noticed all the sponsors that are paying $100 pps AND boasting a 1:279 ratio??

There are 1000's of new webmasters becoming millionaires as we speak.....

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

you seem to be missing the boat, haven't you noticed all the sponsors that are paying $100 pps AND boasting a 1:279 ratio??

There are 1000's of new webmasters becoming millionaires as we speak.....

and the coloured girls go do be do be do be doo be doo

d-null · 12-01-2008, 10:33 PM

how much more easy can it get, send 10000 uniques and their magical mystery tour will convert at 1:200 so you will get 50 sales in a day and maybe even win a booby prize

qxm · 12-01-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

son??? lol

sis? ... dam failed attempt numba 1... lol

But yeah I mean.. anyone converting at less than 2:1 is just wasting time ... or so I've heard...

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:35 PM

This is 12 clicks bait....just wait for it.....

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

right? Now lets see the liars step up to the plate.

The thread title says "business sucks...conversion ratios are lower than ever"

But you don't say what it is that you do or how you do it. Are you an affiliate? How do you send traffic? How long you been doing this?

Because then you said "liars step up to the plate"

Some people on here, like me, have our own sites and our own traffic and know our way around and know how to make money. Things are slow right now. No doubt. There are a lot of reasons for that.

But to make a statement that you are doing bad, and so are a bunch of others...and so anyone who is doing well must be a liar is a little too broad of a paintbrush to use.

A lot of the big mega sites...I can't sell memberships anymore. I send 'em a ton of traffic. But there stuff is all over the tubes and torrents. So yeah, that is bad news. Can't sell a membership when the entire site is ripped for free.

And now we have affiliates "educating" surfers about x-sells. So now...we have millions of surfers who have been told a business secret and are now afraid to pull their card. Smart move. Probably the only business in the world where the salesmen are fucking up their own sales by revealing hidden costs.

And of course there is the economy. Sucks. And even worse is the psychological fear that people have. They might not have felt anything yet...but the media keeps talking 24/7 about how bad it is and it scares the shit out of the people who aren't doing too bad, because they think they are next so they sit on their money.

But for all of that...I've seen worse and made good money. Gonna keep right on doing it. If you're promoting a paysite that doesn't convert anymore. Keep looking. You'll figure out in the next few months that the site that PROTECT their content and shoot exclusive stuff with a solo girl with fans who are loyal and seek her out and stay is where the money is.

And there are also some other great sites that just came out and are selling real well for me. But I'm not gonna tell you which ones. Just check my free sites and you'll see what I'm pushing hard. I follow the money. And it's all revshare baby!

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:42 PM

Yeah I get all that. Robbie, I shook your hand in San Francisco. I met your lovely wife. You don't need to sell me. It is just a train of thought.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:47 PM

but y'all know business sucks. When I first did this, it was raining money. Huge amounts of cash. Now.....its business. Just like the real world. It takes acumen. Skill. And a large investment of capital. The good times are over, not the profits.

gleem · 12-01-2008, 10:47 PM

I dunno, I know people doing 40+ joins a day to single sponsors, have plenty of affiliates doing very well.

baddog · 12-01-2008, 10:48 PM

It is only the first day of the month. Much too early to tell.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

I dunno, I know people doing 40+ joins a day to single sponsors, have plenty of affiliates doing very well.

OK, who are they?

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

It is only the first day of the month. Much too early to tell.

You think this is a monthly business? Why?

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

Yeah I get all that. Robbie, I shook your hand in San Francisco. I met your lovely wife. You don't need to sell me. It is just a train of thought.

Who are you then? I can't place your face to your nickname heh-heh Identify yourself bitch so I can say "hi"

gleem · 12-01-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

OK, who are they?

not you obviously.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

not you obviously.

bad answer.

gleem · 12-01-2008, 10:55 PM

who the hell is gonna post which affiliates are doing 40+ sales a day.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Who are you then? I can't place your face to your nickname heh-heh Identify yourself bitch so I can say "hi"

Bitch? I think not. But you were sitting on a high stool eating...what...shrimp or something and you waxed on about your long history in tgp's and how you have just recently been pitching your wife with black guys....not that there is anything wrong with that.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

who the hell is gonna post which affiliates are doing 40+ sales a day.

then why did you post that shit? Either put up or shut up. Everything else is just gfy sigwhoring.

gleem · 12-01-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

then why did you post that shit? Either put up or shut up. Everything else is just gfy sigwhoring.

just saying there are people doing good instead of bitching about conversions. And most don't have time to post on boards.

Click the sig please.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

just saying there are people doing good instead of bitching about conversions. And most don't have time to post on boards.

Click the sig please.

What a crock of shit. You swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. So sad. You have no idea. You just parrot the shit you read here. Time to post on boards? The oldes line in the book. Kid, you haven't been around much, have you?

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

Bitch? I think not. But you were sitting on a high stool eating...what...shrimp or something and you waxed on about your long history in tgp's and how you have just recently been pitching your wife with black guys....not that there is anything wrong with that.

Sitting on a stool eating shrimp? I don't remember that at all bro. Maybe sitting in a chair drinking a beer. LOL And don't remember talking about any of that in S.F. You sure it was me? We were one of the sponsors, and I was at a few of the forums during the day. And of course running wild at night.

I'm the guy with brown hair, 6 ', 205. Was that me you were talking to?

What's your name and what do you do and what were we discussing? Alzheimers is sinking in.

baddog · 12-01-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

You think this is a monthly business? Why?

Biz has been outstanding, figured you must be making a prediction.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Bizt has been outstanding, figured you must be making a prediction.

didn't I predict the liars would come out?

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Sitting on a stool eating shrimp? I don't remember that at all bro. Maybe sitting in a chair drinking a beer. LOL And don't remember talking about any of that in S.F. You sure it was me? We were one of the sponsors, and I was at a few of the forums during the day. And of course running wild at night.

I'm the guy with brown hair, 6 ', 205. Was that me you were talking to?

What's your name and what do you do and what were we discussing? Alzheimers is sinking in.

Yup, it was you. Never mind. We will meet in Vegas or somewhere else I am sure.

baddog · 12-01-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

didn't I predict the liars would come out?

I really hope you aren't calling me a liar.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I really hope you aren't calling me a liar.

I might be

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

Yup, it was you. Never mind. We will meet in Vegas or somewhere else I am sure.

Well damn it...come up and remind me when you see me. I like meeting people and I'll pull up an extra high stool and a plate of shrimp for ya. lol

Seriously, I'm horrible at remembering people Of course I can't remember you just by a nickname on GFY.

I mostly hung out those days with Jerry Lewis, Mark Womack, LAJ and the pack of whores we brought with us for the show. I just really don't remember eating any shrimp as I took the cable car down to the water each day to eat lunch.

baddog · 12-01-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

I might be

Fuck you.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Well damn it...come up and remind me when you see me. I like meeting people and I'll pull up an extra high stool and a plate of shrimp for ya. lol

Seriously, I'm horrible at remembering people Of course I can't remember you just by a nickname on GFY.

I mostly hung out those days with Jerry Lewis, Mark Womack, LAJ and the pack of whores we brought with us for the show. I just really don't remember eating any shrimp as I took the cable car down to the water each day to eat lunch.

Back in those days, I stayed at home and made money. But I do remember your when we stories. I will remind you of this someday.

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

Back in those days, I stayed at home and made money. But I do remember your when we stories. I will remind you of this someday.

No, no...by those days I meant during the San Francisco show. Not the "old days" lol

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:14 PM

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No, no...by those days I meant during the San Francisco show. Not the "old days" lol

but I remember the old days with great fondness. Put up a new set of pictures and earn ten grand. Now we all have to work. Most here will never get it, or even come close.

seeric · 12-01-2008, 11:15 PM

instead of stripping 3 nights a week i've been forced to start doing it 5 nights a week.

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 11:17 PM

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instead of stripping 3 nights a week i've been forced to start doing it 5 nights a week.

You're still showing up at the house to do that VIP show for me tomorrow night, right?

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robbie

you're still showing up at the house to do that vip show for me tomorrow night, right?

lol........

gleem · 12-01-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by weekly

What a crock of shit. You swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. So sad. You have no idea. You just parrot the shit you read here. Time to post on boards? The oldes line in the book. Kid, you haven't been around much, have you?

Fuck you tard boy, I've been around plenty more than you, I SEE affiliate stats daily, and my top 10% are making as many if not more than they did 6 months ago, I personally am doing better today than a year ago with seling my own sites and other sponsors, albeit dating sponsors conversions took a dive.

I can see from your posts you are just a shit stirring board personality wannabee, so I'm wasting my breath, but if you had any biz sense, you wouldn't be sitting in that sinking ship your sitting in ( a $49 wal-mart bought desk chair) and you'd be making some loot instead of trying to bait people.

fuck your negative shitty and completely unentertaining attitude and I bid you adieu!

seeric · 12-01-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You're still showing up at the house to do that VIP show for me tomorrow night, right?

with bells on. well, or off. pick your poison.

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:26 PM

[QUOTE] I personally am doing better today than a year ago with seling my own sites and other sponsors, [QUOTE]

And what the fuck does that mean? ten percent of not a lot is still not a lot.

Robbie · 12-01-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

with BALLS on. well, or off. pick your poison.

I prefer balls on and swinging low

umbralui · 12-01-2008, 11:47 PM

... and we are still in the game

seeric · 12-01-2008, 11:48 PM

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I prefer balls on and swinging low

draggin like monkeys knuckles

weekly · 12-01-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by umbralui

... and we are still in the game

being still in the game is good. Mostly I wonder why most here even bother.

umbralui · 12-02-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by weekly

being still in the game is good. Mostly I wonder why most here even bother.

i think we make same money but we work more

weekly · 12-02-2008, 12:17 AM

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i think we make same money but we work more

smartest thing I have read in gfy in the last year.

notime · 12-02-2008, 12:58 PM

I stopped looking at conversions. New trend is to satisfy clients (they aren't numbers).
And go from there. And it works, you'll see...

Ross · 12-02-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

we have millions of surfers who have been told a business secret and are now afraid to pull their card. Smart move. Probably the only business in the world where the salesmen are fucking up their own sales by revealing hidden costs.

Not sure where you shop for all the stuff you buy in every day life but if I were to find any hidden costs I sure as shit would be kicking up a shit storm about them.

When I buy a new car I pay for what I want. When I buy groceries I don't have things added to my cart without me or my girlfriend adding them. When I buy clothes, I don't let them throw in matching items unless I want them. I chose what I buy and when I buy it. You can't really be telling me that you pay for hidden extras every day in life now can you?? I thought you were smarter than that.

Robbie · 12-02-2008, 01:48 PM

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Not sure where you shop for all the stuff you buy in every day life but if I were to find any hidden costs I sure as shit would be kicking up a shit storm about them.

When I buy a new car I pay for what I want. .

OH NO you don't! LOL! Both of my brothers are car salesmen. If you think you walk out of a dealership without paying THOUSANDS of dollars more than you have to, then you are a bit misinformed. You better go back to your car dealer and start kicking up that shit storm now. Except you won't know what to raise hell about because the costs are hidden, and they aren't stupid enough to point out what you got overcharged for...that wouldn't make them any money.

See the salesmen make their money off of commission and they get a nice percentage off fo the "product" that they sell you as does the finance manager you sat with in the office to conclude the deal.

Car sales are VERY detailed in how they work. Everything is planned out from the moment you drive onto the lot to the time you walk out smiling with a new car. And yes, you spent thousands more than what was neccessary. Everybody does. It's how they do business.

Not saying that crazy x-sells are good. Just saying, that you are wrong about things you buy everyday. I can't speak for other businesses. But I can for new car sales. And for used car sales which is a different monster. And also for boat sales at a marina as one of my brothers left car sales and bought a marina where he can "whack" you even better. Standard practice in high dollar retail. Just a different method of doing it.

In the end..a Good Deal is when both sides are happy and THINK they got a "good deal" Kinda hard to have customer satisfaction if I as an affiliate started telling my surfers that they some sites will screw them. That leads to overall suspicion. Just like retail sales will NEVER reveal business practices to the general public.

12-01-2008, 10:19 PM	#1
weekly So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,785	OK, so business sucks....conversion ratios are lower than ever right? Now lets see the liars step up to the plate.

12-01-2008, 10:22 PM	#2
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	duno what u talking about .. general teen niche is converting at 1:126 for me ... gotta try it out some time son .. </lol> __________________ ICQ: 266990876

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	I dunno, I know people doing 40+ joins a day to single sponsors, have plenty of affiliates doing very well. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	who the hell is gonna post which affiliates are doing 40+ sales a day. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

12-01-2008, 11:26 PM	#41
weekly So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,785	[QUOTE] I personally am doing better today than a year ago with seling my own sites and other sponsors, [QUOTE] And what the fuck does that mean? ten percent of not a lot is still not a lot. Last edited by weekly; 12-01-2008 at 11:28 PM..

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Number1Thumb Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,135	AFF is converting 1:8 for me from yahoo chat rooms My bad its not 2003 anymore, damnit

12-01-2008, 10:28 PM	#5
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	you seem to be missing the boat, haven't you noticed all the sponsors that are paying $100 pps AND boasting a 1:279 ratio?? There are 1000's of new webmasters becoming millionaires as we speak.....

12-01-2008, 10:33 PM	#7
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	how much more easy can it get, send 10000 uniques and their magical mystery tour will convert at 1:200 so you will get 50 sales in a day and maybe even win a booby prize

12-01-2008, 10:35 PM	#9
weekly So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,785	This is 12 clicks bait....just wait for it.....

12-01-2008, 10:42 PM	#11
weekly So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,785	Yeah I get all that. Robbie, I shook your hand in San Francisco. I met your lovely wife. You don't need to sell me. It is just a train of thought.

12-01-2008, 10:48 PM	#14
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	It is only the first day of the month. Much too early to tell.

12-01-2008, 11:15 PM	#36
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	instead of stripping 3 nights a week i've been forced to start doing it 5 nights a week.

12-01-2008, 11:47 PM	#43
umbralui Do as i say, not as i do! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in the mountains Posts: 13,755	... and we are still in the game

12-02-2008, 12:58 PM	#48
notime Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cyberspace Posts: 8,020	I stopped looking at conversions. New trend is to satisfy clients (they aren't numbers). And go from there. And it works, you'll see...