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Old 12-05-2008, 08:44 AM   #1
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obama embraces creative common

Yet, that a Creative Commons license has been embraced by the President-Elect means good things. Most importantly, that the President has knowledge of less-restrictive copyright methods, and first-hand experience that not only do they work, but that the sky doesn?t fall down when they are used, cannot hurt. That the license chosen was, in Lessig?s words, the ?freest license? is more encouraging still.

One can only hope that when the likes of the RIAA and MPAA come to talk about further strengthening copyright, he turns around and says, ?I?ve been using these great CC licenses, have you heard of them?? Regardless, it?s a great boost to Creative Commons, as they prepare to celebrate their sixth birthday.


http://torrentfreak.com/obama-embrac...ommons-081202/

to all the anti- safe harbor provision/ pro draconian copyright law content producers

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Old 12-05-2008, 08:47 AM   #2
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This is actually bigger news than most realize. This coupled with his support of Net Neutrality means the internet stays free for a little longer.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:49 AM   #3
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ahh, I love it when no money, no company, no assets whining turds post on this board and pretend like their not sad that their mother didn't love them.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:50 AM   #4
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I doubt it will affect our industry that much.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:50 AM   #5
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Why does GFY let you post your CONSTANT BULLSHIT? You contribute NOTHING.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:52 AM   #6
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ahh, I love it when no money, no company, no assets whining turds post on this board and pretend like their not sad that their mother didn't love them.
Seriously, do you think anyone here gives a shit about PornNewz?
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:17 AM   #8
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Why does GFY let you post your CONSTANT BULLSHIT? You contribute NOTHING.
well maybe because i represent the only balance to the content producer whining
maybe because what i have been saying about the law, and the business changes that need to be made have been right every time.
or maybe it just because i get page views
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Old 12-05-2008, 09:21 AM   #9
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what the fuck do torrent sites have to do with creative commons idiot? fuck all.
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wonder if this one is even worth a siggy spot??
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:12 AM   #11
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what the fuck do torrent sites have to do with creative commons idiot? fuck all.
creative common has to do with the right to modify and redistribute content.
It is designed from the ground up to be respectful of fair use rights.

understanding that means that you have to understand fair use.

torrent can be used as a back up solution (fair use) a recovery solution (fair use).

by it very nature the seeder is committing no crime (he is never giving away a single copy of the file -- only non working copies) if you recognize the fair use right of using a torrent as most effective backup solution (for non confidential data) ever invented.

having a president who understands this is good for fair use and bad for copyright nazi
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yeah i know what it is fuckhead.

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creative common has to do with the right to modify and redistribute content.
It is designed from the ground up to be respectful of fair use rights.

understanding that means that you have to understand fair use.

torrent can be used as a back up solution (fair use) a recovery solution (fair use).

by it very nature the seeder is committing no crime (he is never giving away a single copy of the file -- only non working copies) if you recognize the fair use right of using a torrent as most effective backup solution (for non confidential data) ever invented.

having a president who understands this is good for fair use and bad for copyright nazi
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:14 AM   #13
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It clearly shows that he has technology advisers that *get* it. I think it's an awesome sign.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:34 AM   #14
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It clearly shows that he has technology advisers that *get* it. I think it's an awesome sign.
welcome to the dark side hal

the hotness factor was sorely lacking with ugly fucks like me being the only ones defending fair use and fair use friendly liciencing.

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welcome to the dark side hal

the hotness factor was sorely lacking with ugly fucks like me being the only ones defending fair use and fair use friendly liciencing.

Creative commons is not a replacement for copyright and I'm not sure how it affects fair use or what it has to do with torrents. Illigal is still illegal.

To me, is much more relevant for the mash up culture. Where art and artist can encourage others to remix and re-use. But it is a CHOICE by the copyright owner, no?

In essence, Sponsors & TGP's have been embracing a similar idea for a long time. "You can use this content that I designate, but give me credit/a link back."

Creative Commons simply allows these things to happen without lawyers, contracts, etc. But the scope of the license is still CHOSEN by the content owner.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:10 AM   #16
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Creative commons is not a replacement for copyright and I'm not sure how it affects fair use or what it has to do with torrents. Illigal is still illegal.
there is no way anyone can claim that creative common is a replacement for copyright nor have i ever made such a statement. The fact that fair use was defined in the original copyright act and defined as exemption from the normal exclusive rights granted by the act.

Creative common was created out of the intelectual papers which descibed and condemed the overstepping of current copyright laws to control content distribution. The squashing of fair use free expression (parody, commentary). It was an attempt to prove that copyright holders didn't need to dictetorially control content (stomping all over fair use) and could even extend those rights beyond those granted explictly by the law and still make money.


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To me, is much more relevant for the mash up culture. Where art and artist can encourage others to remix and re-use. But it is a CHOICE by the copyright owner, no?
the point i am making is that obama seems to get it, which means he is going to be more fair use friendly. Right like access shifting (currently not yet established by case law) would be more likely to be respected by future laws.


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In essence, Sponsors & TGP's have been embracing a similar idea for a long time. "You can use this content that I designate, but give me credit/a link back."

Creative Commons simply allows these things to happen without lawyers, contracts, etc. But the scope of the license is still CHOSEN by the content owner.
i am not arguing with you about the fundamentals of the liciencing schema, i understand them quite well. I just know the history behind them, the principles they were founded on and the consequences of the government finally getting those principles.

Fair use has gotten a significant advocate.
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