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Old 12-08-2008, 12:08 PM   #1
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does PPS have to be on a TRIAL to be considered PPS?

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I want to know what you guys think about PPS, does the sponsor have to be paying you on a trial for you to promote them via pps, or can it be on a full join? So let's say $24.95 full join and the sponsor is paying you $35 pps


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Old 12-08-2008, 12:21 PM   #2
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No, it does not have to be on a trial.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:23 PM   #3
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It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:27 PM   #4
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What difference would it make if it was a trial or active join? If it is PPS it is PPS whether the surfer opted for the trial or the full join. I can not recall any trial that did not offer the full join as well. It would not change my payout.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:27 PM   #5
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It should be, otherwise its really called an active join.
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Would you still promote that option though?
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:28 PM   #6
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I wouldn't take PPS for full month joins unless the PPS = 2.5 times the full month price
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:29 PM   #7
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What difference would it make if it was a trial or active join? If it is PPS it is PPS whether the surfer opted for the trial or the full join. I can not recall any trial that did not offer the full join as well. It would not change my payout.
The difference is what webmasters perceive the difference to be...

When you tell a webmaster that you pay PPS the first thought is as trial... if it is not a trial, it should really be specified otherwise. It is easier to sell a $1.95 trial than a $24.95 full...
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:34 PM   #8
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The difference is what webmasters perceive the difference to be...

When you tell a webmaster that you pay PPS the first thought is as trial... if it is not a trial, it should really be specified otherwise. It is easier to sell a $1.95 trial than a $24.95 full...
I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.
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I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.


Yes, I have seen many that only offer a high surfer join price.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:47 PM   #10
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I am sorry, but have you seen a join page that did not offer both? Any I can think of had both options (at least) presented to the surfer.
Yes, there's many around.

Check out Lightspeed sites, for instance.
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:57 PM   #11
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PPS = Pay Per Signup

So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:07 PM   #12
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PPS = Pay Per Signup

So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
You are right, what I should have asked was would webmasters promote PPS if it's not on a trial!
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:27 PM   #13
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #14
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PPS = Pay Per Signup

So the answer to your initial question is: No, PPS does not have to be a trial.

There is no debate on this. It's a simple fact that PPS means pay per signup.

However, if a sponsor offers revshare and PPS without trials, I will promote them via revshare unless their members' area doesn't look like it will retain members once they join the site or their PPS payout is a lot more than the amount of the full join. If I think people will renew their memberships multiple times, I will always choose to promote revshare.
What he said.
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Active join = trial membership that converts.

To me PPS means a one-time comission for acquring the customer, which is not necessarily a percentage. As far as what their trial price point is at or whether the site has a trial at all, is up to the affiliate to research and decide if they want to promote this program or not.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:45 PM   #16
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PPS has always implied that it's PPS paid out on trial memberships.

PPS on a full month memebership is PPS only in the literal sense.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:48 PM   #17
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You are right, what I should have asked was would webmasters promote PPS if it's not on a trial!
WHY would you promote a site that has NO trial and pays PPS?
Although I have seen that question a number of times......

The rule I have always lived by is simple
sponsors with NO trial i will ONLY promote using Revshare
sponsors that HAVE a trial i will ONLY promote using PPS (because once a surfer signs up to a sponsor its in THEIR hands to convert that surfer and I can't afford to WASTE a sign up for 50% of $3.95)
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