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seeandsee · 12-12-2008, 07:44 AM

yeah merry xmas, no drama

JFK · 12-12-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmiDean

Well this thread sure did not go as planned.
The new design in my eyes is O.K not great but OK.
However waiting three months and needing it completed in time for as show and then not getting it is not acceptable.
It would look to me if all the facts are correct that some financial burden should fall on the designer.
It is rare that a man of JFK's integrity starts any drama on the boards, so I think we can take his word on the integrity of Due.

Jimmi, I didnt start this, really hate to be involved at all. I'm just stating my experience with Due, who has been good to me. Just because he's a mild mannered person, does not me he should be taken advantage of.

CaptainHowdy · 12-12-2008, 07:52 AM

Where's the drama?

The Duck · 12-12-2008, 07:53 AM

Your sig stole all the action.

Tam · 12-12-2008, 07:55 AM

I am not really going to say much about the current task at hand between Due and this particular situation because I wasn't behind the scenes with it and don't know what was said back and forth between the two..... so I can't really comment on that part.

HOWEVER, what I can comment on is that I have done so much business with Due in the past 10 years that I can honestly give an opinion on his work ethics and the way he deals with things honestly and upfront..... he has NEVER ever been anyting but honest with me and upfront about everything.

There was a time when I did some text work for him, a few years back, and he was picky, that I'll give anyone, but he's successful because of that picky thing.... and no it didn't always stay on point or whatever, minds would change and visions would change in the process of doing things with him...... but ALWAYS I agreed to the changes and never asked for more money in the process of making said changes, and this is MY fault, for telling him I'd make the changes, not his. If I had said "I'll make the changes and it'll cost you more" then he would have paid more, but when you agree to make changes and nothing is said about paying more then you eat that, not the client..... this should be made up front from the word go.

Sooooooooo....... while I have never done any business whatsoever with Alien, I HAVE done both business and friendship with Due and he's never ever been anything but professional, respectable and kind to me... not even one time.

MaDalton · 12-12-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

I learned it the hard way - I have probably wasted more than 2 years of time and income, on GOOD projects that was never completed, because there was never a solid agreement of what needed to be done.

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail....

this somehow sounds familiar

geedub · 12-12-2008, 08:18 AM

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frank7799 · 12-12-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

this somehow sounds familiar

I can´t contradict.

LadyMischief · 12-12-2008, 08:49 AM

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Machete_ · 12-12-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

this somehow sounds familiar

Ye - as I said - learnd the hard and expensive way. Not exactly a senario im proud of today when looking back

JamesK · 12-12-2008, 09:09 AM

1. That design sucks ass for $1750
2. I can totally understand where AlienQ is coming from. I've had my fair share of clients infinitely requesting changes. I think it's best to list the work you're going to do, the amount of changes and the price for additional changes. Be organised (this is for both the designer AND the client).

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Tam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: In your face Posts: 8,484	I am not really going to say much about the current task at hand between Due and this particular situation because I wasn't behind the scenes with it and don't know what was said back and forth between the two..... so I can't really comment on that part. HOWEVER, what I can comment on is that I have done so much business with Due in the past 10 years that I can honestly give an opinion on his work ethics and the way he deals with things honestly and upfront..... he has NEVER ever been anyting but honest with me and upfront about everything. There was a time when I did some text work for him, a few years back, and he was picky, that I'll give anyone, but he's successful because of that picky thing.... and no it didn't always stay on point or whatever, minds would change and visions would change in the process of doing things with him...... but ALWAYS I agreed to the changes and never asked for more money in the process of making said changes, and this is MY fault, for telling him I'd make the changes, not his. If I had said "I'll make the changes and it'll cost you more" then he would have paid more, but when you agree to make changes and nothing is said about paying more then you eat that, not the client..... this should be made up front from the word go. Sooooooooo....... while I have never done any business whatsoever with Alien, I HAVE done both business and friendship with Due and he's never ever been anything but professional, respectable and kind to me... not even one time. __________________ "Want to get listed on The Porn Map? Email [email protected] or message me on Skype (TamboSpr)!"

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12-12-2008, 09:09 AM	#61
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	1. That design sucks ass for $1750 2. I can totally understand where AlienQ is coming from. I've had my fair share of clients infinitely requesting changes. I think it's best to list the work you're going to do, the amount of changes and the price for additional changes. Be organised (this is for both the designer AND the client). __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting