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![]() How does the index of a PR5 site suddenly become unranked?
I have one site which keeps moving around, in terms of how Google seems to view it, to a really dramatic degree. It has been PR5 or PR6 for many years, online for almost a decade, but sometimes it is all the way at the very end of the search results for obvious terms and sometimes it is #1. Right now, a couple of unimportant internal pages seem to come up and are PR2. What the heck is going on? Any thoughts?
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really hard to say without looking at the site tbh
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Go to Google and do a site:yourdomain.com and see how many pages it says it has indexed. If the results look normal, then there may be some temporary fuck-up, they tend to happen.
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Ah, good point. This is the main one I am concerned about, although, now that I'm looking at it, it looks like a bunch of my sites just dropped a couple of pageranks: http://www.blueblood.net
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Hmm, looks like definitely at least a few thousand fewer pages indexed, a lot of weird tags pages indexed (although I've seen the tags pages off and on for quite a while, and the index page does not appear to be on there. Actually, just about no real article pages pages appear to be on there.
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If the pages in question have dynamic content, and Google crawls your site frequently - you will see your site jump around as it becomes more or less relevant to various search terms. I would recommend submitting an XML sitemap to Google that conforms to the 0.90 spec (http://sitemaps.org/). Feel free to hit me up on ICQ if you need more information or anything. |
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It shows PR5 here, AmeliaG. It's PR3 for the index.php however. You should do some 301s for that I think, to keep the default domain rank high and not let the index.php dilute for various reasons.
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Article updates often have one to five links in an article of 400 to 1,200 words, although occasionally there is an article with none. What does dynamic content mean in this context?
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As in, the content changes on one page. As you submit new articles and they get pushed to your homepage, older articles fall off - making that single page more or less relevant to certain search terms. You already mentioned your article pages are not being indexed. As I suggested, you should submit an XML sitemap to Google so that they have a full list of your articles and there is no question as to why they have or have not indexed them.
Also, for any links in your articles that you do not want to share your reputation with, add the attribute rel="nofollow" to that links A tag. |
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Quote from the Official Google Webmaster blog: Quote:
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The FEEDS dont show up in the searchresult. This have nothing to do with the SITE being indexed. Google see the feeds, and see the source(the post) of the feed, the source(the post) is indexed but the feed is not, and should never ever be indexed, since its a FEED. Try to understand the difference |
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Yes. Google reads the feed and indexes it for iGoogle and Google Reader based searches. Google also uses RSS and Atom feeds as a type of sitemap in addition to the XML sitemap spec. Unfortunately, I've seen many occasions when pages that *should* be indexed because are in an RSS or Atom feed and they just aren't. My original suggestion of submitting a supplemental XML sitemap is perfectly fine and certainly will not hurt. But you're right, I shouldn't be arguing with you. I mean come on, look at your beautiful site http://ebusdk.com. |
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What is listed there is all I need. Its Tax and payment info. I dont want new customers. Go back and read your own link again http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...eb-search.html It's about FEEDS, it have NOTHING to do with the original post being left out of the index. You still dont even understand what it is you are reading |
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I believe I understand perfectly. So thanks anyways. Now quit being rude and give the lady's thread back. |
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what I DID say was "adding sitemaps do nothing whatsoever. Google know the pages are there." You can add 5000 sitemaps and it will still not make any difference to her placement or rank SERP's are dynamic - more now than ever. It will always change, and there is nothing you can do about it. |
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So 301 the index.php to the bare root (http://www.domain.com/) that what you mean? In .htaccess? |
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I think the reson you see something else at apecific times, is because of a secondary Datacenter replying on the request or a error. I see no need for you to start declaring 301 error specific redirects, as long as you have a 404 errorpage declared corectly. (point to /index.php and NOT domain.com/index.php) |
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Please read Google's guide on when to use 301 redirects here: http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=93633 Note the part that says: Quote:
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Post #21 = wrong.
Post #22 = correct.
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![]() ![]() They are diferenciating between http://example.com/home http://home.example.com http://www.example.com NOT http://www.example.com and http://example.com Check her site... |
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In my post I am obviously differentiating between: http://www.blueblood.net/index.php and http://www.blueblood.net/ I'm done with this clown. Can someone else please beat some sense into him? |
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Amelia I sent you an ICQ with a bit of info about this. And also with a question. Feel free to get back to me when you can.
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leek is correct, I don't know what ebus is smoking.
There's a reason that PR is different on AmeliaG's default page(s), because Google is seeing them as different. That's why domain.com has PR5 while domain.com/index.php has PR3. It is better to correct this with a 301, than to take ebus' advice. It may strengthen the PR5, because currently it looks like a weak 5 based on the sub pages of the site with mostly 3's and 2s at best.
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I honestly dont care what people think of me man - i'm not here to make friends. If people want to trust Richard over me, that is not my worries. Im just stating facts, and the fact is Richard dont understand what it is he is reading. Redirecting domain.com/index.php to domain.com means nothing at all. |
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I haven't read all of the SEO advice given in this topic, only the responses regarding the 301 issue I mentioned previously.
Here's an article that touches on the 301 index redirect issue: http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/re...blog-root.html Quote:
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-ad...onicalization/ Google's Adam Lasnik on the issue: Quote:
This is an issue where it isn't going to harm her by adding the 301, but most certainly can help her. Why not do it?
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I have a site that 3 times a month the index (which is normally on page 1) will drop off only to come back the next day.
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Leek: I kind of half understand what your saying, just to be clear, should every wordpress blog do the 301 thing you suggest then?
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Try this to see if you're all set:
The .htaccess snippet I gave should mainly be used for sites that have a DirectoryIndex of index.html, index.htm, or index.php. It is a very simple change that probably won't have that drastic of an affect. But when it comes to SEO, every little bit helps. |
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Good posts leek
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i use this in my htaccess file
# redirects index.php to main url
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^.*/index.php RewriteRule ^(.*)index.php$ http://www.yoursite.com/$1 [R=301,L]
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Mine works for index.html, index.htm, and index.php only and shouldn't interfere with other rules. |
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This may be of help ?
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/875416-google-admits-staff-pick-choose-search-results.html
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RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^.*/index.php RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} !/linkex/ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)index.php$ http://www.yoursite.com/$1 [R=301,L]
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Yo-yo effect surely seems to describe what I've got going on. I'm going to get the WP upgraded and then make sure everything goes to the root and not index.php, if the new WP doesn't do that automatically. Once that is done, though, what exactly does Google do to test a site's trust?
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