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Man made global-warming - Not a fact
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Religion is a fact to some, and a farce to others. 50% of people will always FEVERISHLY disagree with what you have to say and are absolutely unswaying. To even try is futile.
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It's a fact that the temperature of Earth is on an upswing. What is causing that is still up for debate. Personally, I don't think that we are causing it. I think the fact that the polar caps on Mars are melting points more towards the sun as being the culprit.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2..._southpole.htm
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The continued bleating from the green party leftist idiots about how man made global warming is a "fact" is just a typical Marxist ploy to to stifle dissenting opinions so as to implement unpopular and disastrous big government policies by use of continued repetition of the "big lie" that global warming is an existential threat to the planet.
While common sense dictates that everyone should try to live in an environmentally sound way the agenda of the "global warming" fanatics has nothing to do with the environment and everything to with increasing the power and scope of government to the extent that their entire Marxist agenda can be implemented without having to deal with the ever shifting winds of pubic opinion and the democratic process.
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Fuck you Al Gore made a movie saying its so. Al Gore invented the fucking internet. What more proof do you need? Honestly?
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Well, global warming is still a fact. Our polar ice caps are still melting at an incredible rate. If it's not our fault there's no way for us to change anything to reverse it.
... So you're saying we're fucked and there's nothing we can do about it? Great! Glad you cleared things up.
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I always said that it's natural climatic shifting, but nobody wanted to listen. Hell, I said that 911 was done by the US govt. and nobody wanted to listen either!
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Global Warming is caused by Al Gore's flatulence.
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Why bother arguing? It's a moving target.
First people claimed there was NO global warming and that was the target. Now people agree the globe is in a warming trend, so now the target is if it's man made or not. When will the fact that it doesnt matter what caused it penetrate? Mankind can help reduce the amount of bad emissions so why doesnt he do so quickly? Money.
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The average temperature got _colder_ over the last year, not warmer. So you'd better switch to calling it Global Cooling now.
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Nobody's arguing that mankind is not wasteful or couldn't do a much better job at taking care of this planet of ours. The argument is wether or not it's prudent to declare Carbon as the problem to end all problems, regulate and tax the shit out of, and run along as if everything else is normal.
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If it gets really hot, it's going to get really cold, and from there, possibly, spiral out of control. i'm not sitting here being eco-er-than-thou, i'm just saying it's a no brainer to say humanity is having a negative effect on the environment. |
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What I don't like is when people who say there is no such thing as global warming do so as a green light to continue to abuse the earth. No matter if its real or not we should be doing all we can to use items, energy, etc that doesn't harm us or the earth.
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I'm totally for cleaning up this planet and for more restrictions on heavy polluting corporations. I'm all for greener cars, cleaner homes. I'm all for stopping over fishing, over tree harvesting. All these things, but I never believed that humans were the cause of the climate change, warming, cooling.
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If aliens show up in mother ships to destroy the Earth, and Will Smith is not available, the whole place might be ionized all at once. If. Why is it a "no brainer"? Nature gives man some pretty handy ass kickings. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, floods, drout, etc etc. If you ask me, it seems like we're more at the will of mother nature than the other way around.
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Well I agree about reducing the footprint. People know I live like a hermit here. I drive like 2 miles a week max, have had flourescent bulbs for like 15 yrs now and shit like that. My personal footprint must be teensy.
Lets hope these scientists stop arguing about what causes it and do some math on what needs to be done. Step 1) there is no such thing as "clean coal". The phrase "clean coal" is a slogan. It's not an actual thing. Coal is the filthiest mother fucker on the planet. The Bush people even overturned some of Clintons clean water act instead of LOSING in court against the slew of people who sued the government about the coal miners. They blast the top off mountains, get the coal, and dump the rest over the side of the mountain! Right into streams, creeks, rivers, lakes, oceans. Peoples well water is black now. And the governments resolution was to overturn the laws that forced them to mine cleaner. And they have the gall to convince McCain (who railed against 'clean coal' grants in the 1990's!!!) and Obama too! They BOTH use the slogan "clean coal" in their campaigns. My god that must have been a shitload of money they shovelled into their pockets.
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Dude we actually agree on something. I think hell just froze over.
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Other things people do not take into account that affects our planet is not always IN or ON our planet. Differing distances or changing orbits around the sun, changes in the sun itself, just because we THINK we know how the sun works or THINK the sun always behaves in a certain way doesn't mean it can't do something out of the norm or do something that is normal for it that just hasn't been observed yet. I think mankind has to big an ego to think they have the power to change or destroy the planet. The planet isn't in jepordy like the green peacers would have you believe, WE ARE by our own actions. We aren't killing the planet, we are killing ourselves. The earth is not dependant on us for it's health and security, we are dependant on it.
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This is not news to those who actually have done any amount of research or have a clue about paleoclimatology...or even look so far as the dark ages.... :P
Or they could simply explain away the homologous warming trend on Mars to earth's own warming trend by saying it was the little green men... (people should look at a more common source, like the sun..) |
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Does it really matter if it's man made or not? I think the only thing that matters is that we can do something against it by reducing CO2 and Methane Emissions.
Being just a Natural Phenomenon doesn't mean that we just have to sit there and wait like a cow for the slaughter.... |
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lets just say that tomorrow every leading scientist came out and said global warming is a myth. 100%, everyone.
How exactly does that change ANYTHING ? All the things that lead up to the theory of global warming are still bad things, maybe they just dont cause the earth to get warmer.
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![]() What you do is use the sun. Use the wind. Use natural gas. Any of those existing technologies. And you invest in them. You actually spend money on them for once. Lets try that before we find our caves and work on starting fires.
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The next ice age should really fuck things up. Think we are due.
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If you are so opposed to coal then unplug your computer, light up some candles and pull yourself off the grid. Leave the rest of us out of it.
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Most of the power where I live comes from water and nuclear, then coal. But yes I do know what you mean. But dont think that the CURRENT and PAST reliance on coal means we should roll back laws made to keep water clean, lmao. Come on. Thats cheating
![]() Want to burn coal? Fine. Do it within the laws. But rolling back a law PURELY because doing so will make your operation "legal" again is pretty piss poor reasoning. The water in West Virginia didnt miraculously become cleaner when they rolled back the law. It only made dumping waste into it legal again, at the DIRECT expense of the residents. And the government doesnt kick in money for them to buy their water now since they can not use their wells anymore. They're hopelessly contaminated. Check out youtube or something for mountaintop mining, or similar. But no worries, the government DOES kick in more money for the coal industry to try mixing it with cow shit in the hope that it burns "clean". Priorities. Priorities. How much money in grants does the US government supply to alternative sources? When it's the same amount it grants to coal and oil, then we can debate why were were idiots back in the day of burning fossilized plants and animals.
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What if it 'should be' hotter, what if it should be 10-20 degrees hotter on average? It once was, and they now think that during those times humans lived much, almost double the age of today's average while during cold periods the average age of death was about to 2/3 lower, even 100 years ago the difference in age, is the difference in a few degrees in mother earth.
What if... it should be hotter?
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By definition it's not a "fact". It's a theory.
If you are going to pretend to talk science, you sould get your terms right. Pretending to talk science and mixing up basic terminology pretty clearly demonstrates that you don't understand the science behind the theory. You should read more. |
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Like that'll happen. The way he's presenting his "fact" is silly histrionics. It's not science, it has nothing to do with the various theories, it's just politically motivated polemic that means nothing more than any other "alarmist" emotional polemic. And it happens to be conveinient for the right wing (and the corporations that pay for these kinds of papers and events) to promote this point of view, just as it was conveinient for the tobacco companies to pay for years to promote false claims that tobacco wasn't harmful - to avoid blame and costs. |
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So you find someone that agree wihtk your point of view adn somehow your point is "proven". Um WRONG. Hey try using LOGIC and you'll see.You REFUSE to use logic and thus come up with illogical opinions. here's is why you don't believe in man made global warming A) you think the necessary changes will hurt business( untrue by the way ) B) you think the encessary changes will increase your taxes( untrue by the way ) C) you think necessary changes will cost you more money out of your pocket( unture just the opposite is true ) D) you think the necessary changes will be brudensome to you.( once again UNTRUE ) Now even if every I post was in fact true that still is not a reason to not believe in man made global warming. You are one of those people that think if you deny the truth it's no longer the truth. How one comes up with that illogical way of thinking is beyond me. |
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Great article here:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4072 And another...excellent article by National Geographic entitled Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html Global warming has also been detected on Triton: http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/199...runc_sys.shtml The "Greenhouse Effect" has been brought into severe question as well: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...cientists.html Timothy Ball, one of the first Canadian doctors in climatology, wrote an article about his frustration of people NOT listening to the scientific community about "global warming": http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/...ming020507.htm I suppose that's all made up stuff, while the Global warming camp is all basing their "knowledge" and "stats" on facts, right? WRONG. |
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They must all be quacks!
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ut_030320.html Global warming is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal we humans TOTALLY did it!!! |
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so funny to see the extreme right wing club clinging to false fact.
Check out how much Groenland ( Greenland ) has lost of its mass of ice over the past 5 years ...Enough to fill 37 Cheasapeake bay ....
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Not the first time in history and not the last time those kind of catastrophic melts will happen. It's a fairly predictable cycle that can be intrinsically linked with SOLAR CYCLES... unless of course you can explain warming on other planets too....?
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These same retard at first deny ANY kindof global warming. Now they denyman made global warming. Hard to deny global warming due to CO2 when we have VENUS as proof CO2 can make planet HOT. So now that we established that CO2 in the atmosphere WARMS it up and you have the fact that mankind if putting CO2 into the air. Then if one uses LOGIC mankind is contriubuting to the warming of the earth.
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http://ff.org/centers/csspp/library/...06-23/dark.htm "The previous cycle of the millennial-scale oscillation of climate that brought the planet the Little Ice Age and Modern Warm Period introduced the world to the Dark Ages Cold Period and Medieval Warm Period. We here report on this phenomenon as it occurred in South America, focusing on the Dark Ages Cold Period. " The last time this happened.. the world of plenty from the warmth was driven down into the dark ages by the horrible cold and famine that followed. That is far more disturbing to me than seeing the world get warmer for a few years. Enjoy it while it lasts. |
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