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Who Started Paying Models These Ridiculous Rates?!
Let me start out by saying I do alot more print work then web work. Models are lucky to get paid for alot of print work but do it for tearsheets and exposure.. The website I shoot for, the model is paid on a percentage basis. Was looking into getting some rather well known models for Playboy styled solo work and the prices they wanted were insane, near $1k for 3-4 sets and vids that would take no more than an hour to shoot. Then other girls I know wanting $1k for g/g and $1500 for b/g scenes....give me a fucking break.
In case these dumb whores havent noticed, we are in a recession right now. They should be more than thankful for $300 an hour while the average American makes $9 an hour doing actual WORK. But these girls scoff at anything under $600. I think its about time those of you who pay that kind of money say enough! Take $300, get naked or get the fuck out and I will find another hot college girl in need of money who will. I have a feeling the prices would start coming way down if people started doing that. There is FAR more supply than demand and it will only get worse. |
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Where are you shooting?
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SoCal. Hot girls are a dime a dozen here. Really no need to pay the astounding rates these pro models want. I find plenty off Myspace who will model for free or next to nothing. I was just wondering who started giving into these girls and paying them more and more, where does it end? Time to not only put a cap on it, but lower the rates. If they dont like it, they can go work a fucking clothes store for minimum wage and see how the real world works.
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I have a good friend who doesn't even pay the models. They just shoot with him cuz he get his stuff into Maxim, Stuff, FHM etc. He then sells the layout for anywhere between $10k - 30K per magazine, depending on who the model is.
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In third world countries, the going rate for a b/g scene is $16 USD. You should check it out.
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The reason these girls charge so much is because others can afford to pay it. You can't so stop moaning. The guys who can afford the best will pay for it and price you out of the market for the best.
That's what many of you guys understand when it comes to content. The content is what SELLS the site, magazine, DVD again and again and again. The content is a mix part of which is the model, so if you want the best models be prepared to spend money because others will. And it's always been the same in the 30 years I've been in the business. The girls who are new, attractive, give a great performance and are in demand will charge more than the girls who are looking for work and happy to get anything. Stop dreaming of a level playing field when it's clearly not level at all. Is traffic all worth the same? |
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how are you getting girls from myspace?
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Go fuck yourself with a baseball bat, Mr. E, and stick your resentment up your own dumb ass.
If you want to see who gets paid too much in this industry, don't look at the whores, look at the web"masters" who are being paid for doing much less work (and giving so much away for free that no one even NEEDS to join porn sites anymore) and for much less risk than the women in the content who are only going to be able to work for a limited number of years doing this and invest WAY more time and money into looking good than you are willing to recognize. Plus they have to deal with freaky misogynist shitstains like you, and there's no price too high for THAT kind of scary thankless work. Seriously, you sound like the kind of sociopath who takes models out into the desert, rapes them with a tripod, and shoots them in the head. |
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Mr. E She has a valid set of points and yes webmaster hardly work. OK correction the vast majority of them hardly work at all and have most of it done for them by the sponsors.
Models also have to diet, work out, buy outfits, buy makeup, maintain hair, maintain nails, etc. Then it is a lot more work posing in from of crazy hot lights for hours on end than many think.
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It's coming look busy
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They are selling a part of their lives. Once shot you own those images/video forever. You can sell them countless times or distribute them locally. People will find out, see them doing things most would not find acceptable. It also can hinder future employment or even get someone fired when it does come out. They are not selling an hour, they are selling forever. Not to nitpick either yet have to ask. Since your in SoCal, how much are you paying your hair and makeup person for their less than an hours work? You also let the models keep the panties and lingerie? What about toys? I am all for paying as little as possible. I own a business and it makes sense. I still want quality and that is why I would never shoot out of SoCal when other areas are much more affordable. I just would not be throwing a fit bitching about it. If one model will not take X you can just say OK thanks and ask the next.
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what countries ? India ? I have never seen such a rate in any country
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The rates started going up when the internet companies started to shoot in socal and paid what ever rates they were quoted instead of trying to work them down on the rates. I know Naughty America was the leader of the pack when it came to this.
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Hell, if you film people at gunpoint, you can even make them fuck for free!
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Those models could make that kind of money doing escorting anyway so you're fighting against escorting rates as well.
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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ask my man BVF is he pays those prices ;)
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If your customers are not interested in paying the premium for that portion of traffic, hire the no name girls, most will do it cheaper since there is no one else who will hire them at those higher prices. Supply and demand is a wonderful thing. PS. I always think it is funny that the people complaining about supply and demand always seem to argue that the prices should be lower because of supply and demand. |
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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Trixie, I am emailing you an idea regarding promoting your program, check your email.
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Mr.E= cheap ass
Go to third world countries for your cheap ass "dumb whores"..dumbass I always charged more to put up with ho hating little minds such as yourself... In all seriousness.. I think you should be up front and honest with all the models you shoot before you take their picture...make sure they know you think of them as dumb whores. |
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One thing about Trixie from the very start of her online success...she NEVER kissed any ass from this board or any other. And she succeeded without the lot of you. I say your loss for not promoting her niche. Trixie.. I MISS YOU!!!!!! |
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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hey sexy, do you still have the Fletch XXX femdom pics you and Trixie took for me on that hot shoot years ago? man i wish i had em lol
email em to me if you do!
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The saturation of content has this affect. With everyone shooting models are in more demand, even though the profit margin is shrinking. Factor that you piggybacking off of their "name" and paying the price for the branding & name recognition; you can't be worried about the prices.
If you can't pay the price maybe you shouldn't be playing the game to begin with. It's a business and not a charity. If there were less people shooting, prices would come down. ![]() |
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I think that a girl/guy having sex on camera for all to see should be fairly compensated and if they can get high rates, that's OK. (They have some risks invloved and perhaps deserve the combat pay)
But, as a content guy I have come up against a wall. My clients want to pay less and less for the same thing so they can keep earning mad cash like it was still 1999. "JOKE" Other content producers who do inferior work with cheap cameras, shitty lighting, deadwood and ugly (cheap) girls are charging pennies on the dollar these days and getting work 'cause quality has gone out the window. Of course Bang can afford to pay the girls whatever they want and they do, as an independant shooter I am under contract for a set amount. My issue comes when it's not in the budget to pay the models high ass rates and I can't even do a shoot so we all loose money. The girls/agents still want huge dollars per scene no matter what my budget is for a shoot. I recently tried to get some new clients as I had some free time to fill up in a day, when I was told what they wanted to pay me for content and what they are supposedly paying for exclusive content I found that I cannot compete as I pay the girls more than the new clients wanted to pay me for the entire scenes.......... CATCH 19!!!!! And I am now (recently) POV talent myself so I am on both sides of this!!!!! ![]()
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dumb conversation. If its to expensive for you find others.
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I totally dont know. I removed everything on my computer when all my shit went down. I will look on my non porn server. Trixie might have them though, she did the shoot. and Happy fucking Horrordays...I am blazing one up for you! |
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dude, you are the one selling russian content for $19 for 100 sets - now don't pretend as if you had any sympathy for the girls
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GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
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its ok, im a sucker for nostalgia regarding my own online existence, those pics make me smile thinking about em.
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being in love with and respecting bitches... WAY TO GO GUYS
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Clients want the hot girls not toothless hags!!!!!
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Unless you are playboy or penthouse you should not be paying models that much money. $150.00 for a b/g or g/g is pretty standard.
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How the fuck do you pay $150.00 to a girl to fuck a guy on film? A freaking AIM or talenttestingservice test is $150.00 and they have to have a test. How the hell? Do these girls have a real vagina, dude?
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I thought of Seinfield saying the thread title and chuckled a bit
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this seems extremely low - where is that?
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