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Old 01-09-2009, 06:05 PM   #151
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http://www.pointeradvertising.com/testimonials.html

Looks like its time to take down the testimonial with the most clout
Nice...credibility officially shit!
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:15 PM   #152
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:38 PM   #154
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As long as you got tits, you can do whatever with gfy.

When someone calls you out, you have to respond/clear your name. All she did was say "there's another part of the story" WTF. LOL. It's clear she doesn't care what people think does she owe the money or not, and company that called her out said they worked with her for years. I'm not sure how that type of attitude makes anyone feel okay.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:39 PM   #155
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Fucking 1000th post wasted on this bullshit :P. Fuck yea!
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:39 PM   #156
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Is anybody stopping Sunny from telling her side of the story? What if I came on here and said that A1R3K owed me $10K. What would you do? Would you say "there's another side of the story" and walk away? Or, would you "break it down" so that everyone understood why you didn't pay me my money?

GFY is a good way to get folks to pay you when all else fails - I see it all the time here.

People hire people all the time to do stuff for them and sometimes they don't want to pay for the services and/or goods that they received. Not because they didn't get what they paid for...but because they are having money problems.

It sounds like to me the company has tried to work with Sunny but Sunny isn't interested in working something out. No, I don't know the whole story but based on what I see here, I'm leaning towards believing that Sunny owes these folks some money.
Yes! You are correct! I really didn't mean to start this big mess. Just wanted to warn you all. I was surprised to see all this. I hardly ever post here and it was my last avenue. Everyone wants me to give details about all the work done, but I didn't even want to say what I said, let alone give detailed info about our biz relationship. I do have the SEO skills and did a great job for her. If you go to Google and type in sexy girl, sunny leone, sunny leone videos, sunny leone pictures, etc, she is on page one for all of them. Maybe page 2 for one of them. I do organic SEO and I have only had to use PPC for one mainstream client (so far). I like doing it w/o cheating. It's fun. There was a great deal of work that was done, not just a site. This is disappointing for me as well, as she was my first client when I started my business. She helped me. I tried to help her, but it's really hard to help someone that won't get me content to help market the site. I don't want to talk about it any more. I am done and won't ever get the money. Just didn't want it happening to anyone else is all.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:18 PM   #157
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Is it any of our business what was done? She shouldn't have to explain what was done to us. Some of us might think what she did was worth 9K and some might not think it was worth 9K. It doesn't matter what she did. All that matters is that Sunny owes her 9K and she wants us to know that Sunny doesn't want to pay her. That's really the bottom line here right?
if you come on board and accuse someone of not paying a bill, you will ALWAYS be asked what the bill is about , ALWAYS. If you dont answer , the most common conclusion is you are hiding it because you know it was overpriced. I'm not stating my personal opinion , just stating a fact.

Why do people come to that conclusion ? because we have seen these threads before. Person #1 complains person #2 owes them money, everyone trashes person #2 until they showup and everyone finds out person #1 sold them something that was crap.
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if you come on board and accuse someone of not paying a bill, you will ALWAYS be asked what the bill is about , ALWAYS. If you dont answer , the most common conclusion is you are hiding it because you know it was overpriced. I'm not stating my personal opinion , just stating a fact.

Why do people come to that conclusion ? because we have seen these threads before. Person #1 complains person #2 owes them money, everyone trashes person #2 until they showup and everyone finds out person #1 sold them something that was crap.
Even when both parties have years behind of working together?

I dont know who's here in the right, but if someone said i owed them money, and has some proof of our business relationship, i'd justify myself.
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Even when both parties have years behind of working together?
on gfy ? yes, that has been my experience

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I dont know who's here in the right, but if someone said i owed them money, and has some proof of our business relationship, i'd justify myself.
not if you were persuing a libel suit or something and your lawyer told you " dont even try to justify yourself"

not saying thats the case but.. thats how it works. loose lips sink libel ships
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:45 PM   #162
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Yes! You are correct! I really didn't mean to start this big mess. Just wanted to warn you all. I was surprised to see all this. I hardly ever post here and it was my last avenue. Everyone wants me to give details about all the work done, but I didn't even want to say what I said, let alone give detailed info about our biz relationship. I do have the SEO skills and did a great job for her. If you go to Google and type in sexy girl, sunny leone, sunny leone videos, sunny leone pictures, etc, she is on page one for all of them. Maybe page 2 for one of them. I do organic SEO and I have only had to use PPC for one mainstream client (so far). I like doing it w/o cheating. It's fun. There was a great deal of work that was done, not just a site. This is disappointing for me as well, as she was my first client when I started my business. She helped me. I tried to help her, but it's really hard to help someone that won't get me content to help market the site. I don't want to talk about it any more. I am done and won't ever get the money. Just didn't want it happening to anyone else is all.

If you did all the work that you mentioned, then you deserve to be paid. If you have to, sue her for the money. You have a right to be paid for your work and no one gets shit for free. I do not care how hot they think they are or how big their tits are. Business is business.
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lol at coming for gfy and just telling that people owe money, but don't want to explain why.
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Yes! You are correct! I really didn't mean to start this big mess. Just wanted to warn you all. I was surprised to see all this. I hardly ever post here and it was my last avenue. Everyone wants me to give details about all the work done, but I didn't even want to say what I said, let alone give detailed info about our biz relationship. I do have the SEO skills and did a great job for her. If you go to Google and type in sexy girl, sunny leone, sunny leone videos, sunny leone pictures, etc, she is on page one for all of them. Maybe page 2 for one of them. I do organic SEO and I have only had to use PPC for one mainstream client (so far). I like doing it w/o cheating. It's fun. There was a great deal of work that was done, not just a site. This is disappointing for me as well, as she was my first client when I started my business. She helped me. I tried to help her, but it's really hard to help someone that won't get me content to help market the site. I don't want to talk about it any more. I am done and won't ever get the money. Just didn't want it happening to anyone else is all.
If you did get the site to page 2 for sexy girl that is pretty good. I wouldn't think sunny leone would be all that difficult considering the name of the site.

However, the sexy girl would be very easy to track daily hits from... maybe 2,000 unique a day?? There's a dollar value to that... maybe 50k/ year additional profit for the site. Sound's like your getting stiffed. I'm sure you could probably have concentrated on sexy girls as well and seen a bunch more unique traffic.
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She did explain why. Perhaps you missed it.


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Yes! You are correct! I really didn't mean to start this big mess. Just wanted to warn you all. I was surprised to see all this. I hardly ever post here and it was my last avenue. Everyone wants me to give details about all the work done, but I didn't even want to say what I said, let alone give detailed info about our biz relationship. I do have the SEO skills and did a great job for her. If you go to Google and type in sexy girl, sunny leone, sunny leone videos, sunny leone pictures, etc, she is on page one for all of them. Maybe page 2 for one of them. I do organic SEO and I have only had to use PPC for one mainstream client (so far). I like doing it w/o cheating. It's fun. There was a great deal of work that was done, not just a site. This is disappointing for me as well, as she was my first client when I started my business. She helped me. I tried to help her, but it's really hard to help someone that won't get me content to help market the site. I don't want to talk about it any more. I am done and won't ever get the money. Just didn't want it happening to anyone else is all.
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If you did get the site to page 2 for sexy girl that is pretty good. I wouldn't think sunny leone would be all that difficult considering the name of the site.

However, the sexy girl would be very easy to track daily hits from... maybe 2,000 unique a day?? There's a dollar value to that... maybe 50k/ year additional profit for the site. Sound's like your getting stiffed. I'm sure you could probably have concentrated on sexy girls as well and seen a bunch more unique traffic.
2000 uniques a day for the keyword "sexy girl" is not in a million years going to equate to anywhere near $50k/year for a paysite. Especially when all the results ahead of hers are free sites when you eventually get to her site what idiot is going to pay for it? Anything but top 3-5 listings are generally worthless.
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2000 uniques a day for the keyword "sexy girl" is not in a million years going to equate to anywhere near $50k/year for a paysite. Especially when all the results ahead of hers are free sites when you eventually get to her site what idiot is going to pay for it? Anything but top 3-5 listings are generally worthless.
bullshit... 2000 SEO hits will certainly make 50k a year
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Might wanna get that in advance
based on the "that all i can afford statement immediately afterwards"

I think he was saying it as the joke
as he would pay her to be her manager (ala tom sawyer and the fence)
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based on the "that all i can afford statement immediately afterwards"

I think he was saying it as the joke
as he would pay her to be her manager (ala tom sawyer and the fence)
Yea...I didn't pick that up at first....I'm a little slow that way
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Really? I know 2000 SEO hits for other keywords will easily make that... however, am thinking about the term sexy girl and why 1:650 seo wouldn't decide to pay 20 or 30 bucks to join. maybe your right... but would like to know your reason.
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$50k a year on 2k hits per day requires an average income of around 7 cents per hit. You won't get that with the one mentioned in this thread, but you'll easily get it with other search term/industry combinations.

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Yes! You are correct! I really didn't mean to start this big mess. Just wanted to warn you all. I was surprised to see all this. I hardly ever post here and it was my last avenue. Everyone wants me to give details about all the work done, but I didn't even want to say what I said, let alone give detailed info about our biz relationship. I do have the SEO skills and did a great job for her. If you go to Google and type in sexy girl, sunny leone, sunny leone videos, sunny leone pictures, etc, she is on page one for all of them. Maybe page 2 for one of them. I do organic SEO and I have only had to use PPC for one mainstream client (so far). I like doing it w/o cheating. It's fun. There was a great deal of work that was done, not just a site. This is disappointing for me as well, as she was my first client when I started my business. She helped me. I tried to help her, but it's really hard to help someone that won't get me content to help market the site. I don't want to talk about it any more. I am done and won't ever get the money. Just didn't want it happening to anyone else is all.
shut your trap and get back on the pole. content is best seen and not heard.
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If I agree to use someone at their rate it doesnt matter if they are over priced or not. Im an adult and I agreed to the rate. So if I have them continue to do this work for me, then I would owe them money. imo
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But if you had it for "hairy pussy sexy girl" ot "70 year old mature with warts sexy girl" and had 2000 hits a day and some really bad ass content than its a YES.
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Its funny how people on this board go "Oh I had a drink with her, she's hlooking hot as ever, I meet Sunny and she's cool".. what the hell does this have to do with business? Im sure Madoff was pretty cool guy as well but that didn't hold him back from stealing millions? Forum filled with ass kissers. I'm not saying Sunny is at fault here but come on people. I want to see Big_D and Sunny duke it out.. wonder who'll have more drinking buddies to defend either one of them.
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$50K a year from 2K hits generated by the search term "sexy girl"

Noooooo Waaaaaaaaay.

Too general of a term to even come close to that.
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If there is more to the story, Sunny would do well to either explain the situation or to give a public statement that negotations/legal proceedings are underway and that she can't currently comment on the situation.

Right now, we simply have a company stating it is owed $9.7k by Sunny, and Sunny apparently being unable or unwilling to give a professional response.

For those of us who actually do business and aren't sucking her metaphorical cock, that looks bad. Especially since she's representing her program, not just herself
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bullshit... 2000 SEO hits will certainly make 50k a year
Just because they are coming from a search engine does not make them magical hits, people use google to look for free porn to you know. Sexy girl is a crap keyword and you are "bullshit" just thinking you could make $50k/year off it.
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Just because they are coming from a search engine does not make them magical hits, people use google to look for free porn to you know. Sexy girl is a crap keyword and you are "bullshit" just thinking you could make $50k/year off it.
Listen... you can make money on any fucking thing. I didn't say YOU were bullshit... just that 2000 SEO hits can EASILY make you 50K.

For what it's worth, maybe 2-3 people wouldn't join a day to a solo site but their are many other ways to peek the interest of someone lookin for a sexy girl
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Listen... you can make money on any fucking thing. I didn't say YOU were bullshit... just that 2000 SEO hits can EASILY make you 50K.

For what it's worth, maybe 2-3 people wouldn't join a day to a solo site but their are many other ways to peek the interest of someone lookin for a sexy girl
search is way too generic. you'd get 10K hits from horny 16 year old kids that got hold of dads computer or chinese guys that learned that term from english class before you get one guy that really wanted to see something like Sunny.
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Listen... you can make money on any fucking thing. I didn't say YOU were bullshit... just that 2000 SEO hits can EASILY make you 50K.

For what it's worth, maybe 2-3 people wouldn't join a day to a solo site but their are many other ways to peek the interest of someone lookin for a sexy girl
We are talking about 2000 hits from the phrase "sexy girl" on the 2nd page of google though. Im not saying you cant make $50k/year from 2000/day SE hits, their are phrases where you could well make that a week. But this term is not worth shit and being on the 2nd page only makes it even worse.
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Sunny is a sweetheart and not the type i know....i would like to see her side of the story....
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:14 PM   #187
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Sunny is a sweetheart and not the type i know....i would like to see her side of the story....
please explain this to me. does "sweetheart=paying bills"? I've known a lot of sweethearts that didn't. One of them was my ex-wife.
Rule number one: don't ever mix personal emotions with business.
sweetheart != business ...

NEVER !!!!!
I lost too much money to relatives and sweetheart to belive it is.

PS: anybody wants want steel bending machinery that makes custom fences? I'll give it to you for 9K. Come pick it up. That’s whats left from my brother in-law business I invested in to few years ago. He still owes me about 20K
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:16 PM   #188
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shut your trap and get back on the pole. content is best seen and not heard.
Haha you are an idiot. Do not get all bitchy at me because you are to stupid to read what was posted. Also I am more then just content. You have no standing on here to tell anyone what to do, so go fuck yourself douche.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:25 PM   #189
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Sunny is sweet, but I hear good things about Lindsay too.

Sometimes, good people just disagree.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #190
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heh another star that let fame get to them, prob spent all the money on drugs and will end up on the street giving 5 dollar blow jobs.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:32 PM   #191
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Cry me a river-
I just got fucked out of $15K been chasin these clients for two mos-

I am eating the loss.
But it doesn't mean I am not having someone come and see them.




PS i have only been stiffed twice before one due to a bankruptcy, the other simply greed and I sued them and won
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:37 PM   #192
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4 pages of nonsense... wow...
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:43 PM   #193
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i type "sexy girl" in google but i dont see Sunny Leone anywhere

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Old 01-09-2009, 11:57 PM   #194
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Haha you are an idiot. Do not get all bitchy at me because you are to stupid to read what was posted. Also I am more then just content. You have no standing on here to tell anyone what to do, so go fuck yourself douche.
Im starting to like you!
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:13 AM   #195
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bullshit... 2000 SEO hits will certainly make 50k a year
i'd be a billionaire if that was the case
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:15 AM   #196
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i type "sexy girl" in google but i dont see Sunny Leone anywhere

Second page, near the bottom. Not that bad, though nowhere near great.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:21 AM   #197
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Not that bad
you're kidding, right?

bottom of second page for a mediocre keyword


im surprised the site isnt banned yet. look at the backlinks
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:25 AM   #198
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Click sig for advertising that doesn't cost $9,700....
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:26 AM   #199
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heh another star that let fame get to them, prob spent all the money on drugs and will end up on the street giving 5 dollar blow jobs.
I have 5 bucks.... which corner again?
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:28 AM   #200
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you're kidding, right?

bottom of second page for a mediocre keyword


im surprised the site isnt banned yet. look at the backlinks
I did not look until now but that really does not look that "clean" SEO wise.
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