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Old 01-10-2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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Little test shoot of Fresh faced 18 year old using crappy $100 camera (PICS!!!)

What do you think? I will be building a site for her if you guys think she has what it takes.













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Yes but my gut also says you may not have what it takes which could turn out sad. I mean why use a cheap camera at all and if so why even bring it up? Also the self doubt instead of outright hype and promo in regards to having to ask for approval concerns me.

Sorry for being a bastard.
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Hey wait you hid those tats earlier. Now I think she may have to take dick.

And even though you may be pissed at me, do you have some sort of server side auto crop on or something?
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Hey wait you hid those tats earlier. Now I think she may have to take dick.

And even though you may be pissed at me, do you have some sort of server side auto crop on or something?
Lol I ain't mad you, I respect honest input. I was on vacation and this girl wanted to take some naught pictures, I wasn't ready, had no equipment, everyone wanted to see pics so here they are. I think it was a must to use the shitty camera disclaimer.

Lol and yes those were on auto-crop lol. No biggy. Pics either speak for themselves or they don't. i get good comments she gets a site, i don't then she wont get a site. You guys are the ones sending all the traffic so I care what you think just as much as the customers.
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Still think she better take some dick on a site or do some serious hardcore strapon work with those tats.
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Still think she better take some dick on a site or do some serious hardcore strapon work with those tats.
Yea she is down for anything but the dick on camera even though she loves dick, but give me time, once she sees the money it will be on like donkey kong.
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Yea she is down for anything but the dick on camera even though she loves dick, but give me time, once she sees the money it will be on like donkey kong.
You are banking on her getting motivated based on future/potential site profits? Really think it would be best to have the cash first.
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It is your show and I would never tell one to not at least try. To many say read, learn, blah blah some more first. If you think you can make it work, go for it. Though I still think she needs to take some cock and you need some cash first apparently to do it.

Do you have everything else you need, cms, design, visa fee's, etc.?
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Not trying to have a go at you and hope this helps. In 2009 neither you nor this girl have a chance of making it unless you have the most awesome skills at driving traffic or creating something that sells. Even if she does take cock she will not convert with you shooting like this content and asking us if she'll convert.

This is "Amateur Readers Wives/GF" type content and few will buy it. It's not about the camera or the quality of the pictures. That has nothing to little to do with getting a guys dick hard and if it did I would be over the fucking moon!!! Tubes take surfers because they don't give a shit about HD or Hi Quality. They take surfers because people put together sites with poor porn and don't compete with Tubes.

OK so how could you and this girl build a site that will sell?

Will she do hardcore, solo lesbian or BG? Will she do anal, deep throat, DP and all the other nasty things some look for?

Next, not instead, can you shoot content of her that captures who she is and why she does it rather than what she is and what she does? Because a solo girl site needs to have a personality to sell to the surfers. They have to relate to her, they have to like her, they have to have more than another 20 year old girl with a fanny going through the motions in a porn scene. Because the 2009 surfer knows Tubes are full of the vanilla type content.

Does she have a personality on camera worth capturing? Big question and clearly most girls do not have one good enough to sell to surfers in big numbers.

Next, not instead, how much will she work the site? Will she do a live webcam every night, will she be online to chat, answer emails, supply fan signs and do her up most to promote the site? What fetishes is she really into and can bring to the site. And the most important thing.

HOW LONG WILL SHE WORK IT BEFORE IT BECOMES PROFITABLE, HOW LONG BEFORE THE BF TAKES A HAND AND HOW LONG WILL SHE BE IN THE BIZ FULL STOP?

And have you got a lawyer to write a contract for her?
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Yes but my gut also says you may not have what it takes which could turn out sad. I mean why use a cheap camera at all and if so why even bring it up? Also the self doubt instead of outright hype and promo in regards to having to ask for approval concerns me.

Sorry for being a bastard.
Yeah I agree, no way to put this nicely I guess, she is HOT but you are not? Give it a shot but if you can't make this happen and she wants to move forward don't be an obstacle..
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Still think she better take some dick on a site or do some serious hardcore strapon work with those tats.
With those tats and the skinny frame she would be perfect for full on lesbo dildo fest, is she down for that? Some heavy makeup, ripped up fishnets, lube and a couple strapons would make any festival red with envy
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Yeah I agree, no way to put this nicely I guess, she is HOT but you are not? Give it a shot but if you can't make this happen and she wants to move forward don't be an obstacle..
Sorry no way to put this nicely. She is not hot. She's average, tattooed to the level that most 40+ year old surfers will be put off, skinny, spotty, long face and big nosed. She might be incredibly intelligent, a lovely lady and a wonderful person. But hot she is not.

When people selling a product don't understand it from the buyers perspective what is left but driving traffic to a site?

And praying.
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I don't get the $100 camera thing. How does that happen.

But if you had a full set like this with hardcore video I'd buy it.
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Take her fetish and she'll make ya an assload.

Prerecord some cam shows.... maybe play up the huge nose with a site like "DirtyLittleJewGirl.com" or something.. and go on the religious humiliation fetish... and make her blogs seem like she has a brain...

and you're in business.

A few of these early 2000s dudes still producing the same porn they produced 15 years ago with different colored walls and quilts.. lol... don't think in terms of fetish because it's not what makes their dick hard.

You could sell her if you had the brains to do it.

now do you want to know where to send my check?
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Sorry no way to put this nicely. She is not hot. She's average, tattooed to the level that most 40+ year old surfers will be put off, skinny, spotty, long face and big nosed. She might be incredibly intelligent, a lovely lady and a wonderful person. But hot she is not.

When people selling a product don't understand it from the buyers perspective what is left but driving traffic to a site?

And praying.
Your brain just doesn't go niche.. other than teen, milf, or straight sex..
maybe, just maybe, ya might have a dildo, anal sex, or foot job.

This chick could be GOLDEN with a femdomesque site.
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A few of these early 2000s dudes still producing the same porn they produced 15 years ago with different colored walls and quilts.. lol... don't think in terms of fetish because it's not what makes their dick hard.

You could sell her if you had the brains to do it.
It would be very wise of him to know whatever fetish or niche he wished to place her into inside and out. If not the site will get dismissed by those really into any given fetish or micro niche. Way to often someone tries to jump into something they are not into personally or do not fully understand and it just does not work.

Ah fuck a duck, you edited your post.
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It would be very wise of him to know whatever fetish or niche he wished to place her into inside and out. If not the site will get dismissed by those really into any given fetish or micro niche. Way to often someone tries to jump into something they are not into personally or do not fully understand and it just does not work.

Ah fuck a duck, you edited your post.
Did you just say fuck a duck?
If my marriage doesn't work out.............


I didn't know there were men out there who said fuck a duck?

True. There has to be an understanding of the fetish.. but anyone can learn it.. with 2-3 days worth of reading..
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If my marriage doesn't work out.............


I didn't know there were men out there who said fuck a duck?

True. There has to be an understanding of the fetish.. but anyone can learn it.. with 2-3 days worth of reading..
I wish it only took 2-3 days. I would be rich by now.

Yes I said it, brain has tons of out of place and useless lines in it.
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Your brain just doesn't go niche.. other than teen, milf, or straight sex..
maybe, just maybe, ya might have a dildo, anal sex, or foot job.

This chick could be GOLDEN with a femdomesque site.
Your brain does not read what I wrote.

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I'm more into niches than you think. I shoot what I shoot not because I can't shoot other things, it's because other things can't afford me to shoot for them. Yes there are niches I'm clueless about and would never get into them. Why you assume someone else can get into a niche they don't understand shows how you're thinking. What makes you think she or the shooter have a clue about Fem Dom content? AFT has said it for me.

Not flaming you, just asking you not to make assumptions about things you don't understand.
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I wish it only took 2-3 days. I would be rich by now.

Yes I said it, brain has tons of out of place and useless lines in it.
No worries 2-3 days reading up on femdom and it's mastered. LOL

Seriously though, we wonder why surfers don't spend money when some of us think 2-3 days reading can be enough to get into a fetish the devotee has loved all his life.
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In your position, I'd definitely be thinking in terms of fetish/bondage niche. I have to agree with what Paul said about her being rather average (at best) - and as he said...no offense to the model intended.

But average can work well in the bdsm/fetish niche if shot well - or given a unique spin.

Some of the photos aren't half-bad (considering a "crappy $100 cam). I liked the scenic background location - where is that?
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:07 PM   #43
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Your brain does not read what I wrote.

I'm more into niches than you think. I shoot what I shoot not because I can't shoot other things, it's because other things can't afford me to shoot for them. Yes there are niches I'm clueless about and would never get into them. Why you assume someone else can get into a niche they don't understand shows how you're thinking. What makes you think she or the shooter have a clue about Fem Dom content? AFT has said it for me.

Not flaming you, just asking you not to make assumptions about things you don't understand.
It doesn't matter what fetish she's into.
I can go take a girl off the street... write a few scripts for her on femdom/humiliation.. put her on a cam site for $3.99+/min.. and make bank.

What a girl or what a photographer is personally into doesn't have anything to do with what they make money at...

2-3 days of reading can get you started... but ya gotta have a brain to be able to break it apart.. every fetish is just about the psychology of it.. if you're a great writer, you can BS right thru it once you get the psychological part down...

And you said, "Fetish can't afford me.."

Well you can choose to shoot it for your own sites and make a lot more than ya do.. not just for your content site.. but for your program/self... but you choose not to...

and I'm not making assumptions.. I'm just going off advice I've read you give other people over and over about the girls they post.. and it bothers me.
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:07 PM   #44
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I've already commented on the lady. Where is this waterfall?
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:09 PM   #45
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Sweet rump on her indeed. I'd connect the dots
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:13 PM   #46
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I paid more attention to the beautiful scenery than I did her...
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:39 PM   #47
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nice ass, the rest not so much. The tats are just gross. She looks like something that would be suckign me off at 3am in the bar parking lot. Just IMO
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:46 PM   #48
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I suddenly want to eat some Guacamole
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:47 PM   #49
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I might hit it like once or twice...

But if you're successful with her it'll be for reasons other than that she's "hot", because she's only like a 6.5/7

As others have said, it's going to take a lot of dick or some serious fetish shit.
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:48 PM   #50
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nice ass, the rest not so much. The tats are just gross. She looks like something that would be suckign me off at 3am in the bar parking lot. Just IMO
That's what I was thinking... she reminds me of some groupie I would take into the green room after a show.
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