So if the membership is free, why again do you need my credit card? - GoFuckYourself.com

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 02:38 PM

Yeah got a spam today asking me to come back and see this new site for FREE! NO GIMMICS! You know, the standard hype-speak... so I check it out and they want my credit card information for this free site.

Now I run free sites, and I don't need to ask my surfers for their credit card information. Could it have something to do with having cross sales on the join page?

Oracle Porn · 01-18-2009, 02:39 PM

no they just want to verify you are 18

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

no they just want to verify you are 18

Wouldn't they have already done that if this is a mailing list from when I joined LAST time? Hmm...

Paul Markham · 01-18-2009, 03:10 PM

Names please.

Phil · 01-18-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah got a spam today asking me to come back and see this new site for FREE! NO GIMMICS! You know, the standard hype-speak... so I check it out and they want my credit card information for this free site.

Now I run free sites, and I don't need to ask my surfers for their credit card information. Could it have something to do with having cross sales on the join page?

they can't send you COD for hidden x-salex.. or can they???

bobby666 · 01-18-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

no they just want to verify you are 18

or at least your daddy who owns the creditcard

seeandsee · 01-18-2009, 03:14 PM

xsale, upsales on members page etc...

Dagwolf · 01-18-2009, 03:16 PM

If we all did that, only people with the means to pay would see our advertising.

jmcb420 · 01-18-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

no they just want to verify you are 18

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby666

or at least your daddy who owns the creditcard

Hahaha LOL.... well at least I know you know absolutely nothing about me then.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-18-2009, 04:39 PM

read the fine print
theres 2 i have seen lately
1 is its free for life but it comes with a prechecked free trial cross sale that cant be unchecked

the other is a free membership as long as you signup for several free trial sponsors in x amount of days

fris · 01-18-2009, 04:45 PM

use a prepaid credit card with $1 on it

Ethersync · 01-18-2009, 04:54 PM

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

use a prepaid credit card with $1 on it

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

doridori · 01-18-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

negative.

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by doridori

negative.

Where.. links? Seriously..

doridori · 01-18-2009, 05:19 PM

oh negative as in i havent seen one either.

zoltie · 01-18-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

http://www.muchmusic.com/muchmusiccard/

Nicky · 01-18-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Where.. links? Seriously..

Here in sweden most banks offer them, you get it set up online so you can load it whenever you want and it gives you a new CC number everytime you want to make a purchase.

marcjacob · 01-18-2009, 05:46 PM

Im always amazed these companies stay in biz. Are surfers really that dumb? Sadly, I guess many must be or they wouldnt do it.

dyna mo · 01-18-2009, 05:48 PM

that;'s what i would like to know!

fris · 01-18-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

you can buy them at shoppers, etc.

some are reloadable some arent

spunky99 · 01-18-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

u can get prepaid mastercards / visa's are drugstores.. anyone that sells alot of different giftcards usually has them as well now

gideongallery · 01-18-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Must be a USA thing, because in Canada, we don't have prepaid credit cards... at least none that i've ever seen.... anyone?

western union has one.

MrBro · 01-18-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Names please.

99% of the "for free" programs do this. It's just a trial membership but instead of paying 1.95 or whatever it's free the first few days.

Nothing wrong with it if the terms are clear but ofcourse in many cases people get billed to hell because it's impossible to find out what exactly they signed up for.

Personally i don't push for free programs because i don't believe that the ratios are better than any other program where the surfer has to pay right away. If you click something because it's advertised as free and then you have to give your cc info...it looks a bit dodgy right?

MrBro · 01-18-2009, 06:53 PM

Also look at it this way. Some of these programs don't charge the surfer at all. But they do have the email of someone who is interested in adult stuff and has a credit card.

Now where a general email is worth let's say 50 cents (double opt-in) an email with a confirmed cc attached has to be worth at least double that or probably 4 times that.

Just selling that info (not talking about illegal stuff: selling cc info - just the emails and confirmed cc owners) to the right people is worth a lot of cookies.

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zoltie

http://www.muchmusic.com/muchmusiccard/

You pay a small upfront membership and activation fee for your Card ($39.95).

Holy smokes that is expensive. And it takes weeks for it to get mailed out.

fuzebox · 01-18-2009, 07:41 PM

So um... You've never promoted a site with free trials or what?

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

So um... You've never promoted a site with free trials or what?

Actually, very little. I promote revshare primarily... only exception was the Hustler $100 PPS a couple months back... that was a sweet promo and I did very nicely and it's a trusted name, but generally my thinking is, if you need to offer crazy PPS then your content must suck because your not banking on any rebills (cross sales only), because it sure ain't because you love affiliates and want them to get rich... and if anyone actually believes that, well nevermind.

surferbob · 01-18-2009, 10:10 PM

i always pass on promoting free trials.... why lie and say something is free when they have to pull out the credit card... its not free

Barefootsies · 01-18-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

xsale, upsales on members page etc...

Robbie · 01-18-2009, 10:15 PM

Nothing is free. It's just marketing. You already knew that. Why the thread? It isn't like that's something new to anybody here.

Iron Fist · 01-18-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Nothing is free. It's just marketing. You already knew that. Why the thread? It isn't like that's something new to anybody here.

tony286 · 01-18-2009, 10:42 PM

actually there are consumers out there that actually think its free.

Blingbaby · 01-18-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Nothing is free. It's just marketing. You already knew that. Why the thread? It isn't like that's something new to anybody here.

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Noobie Zone

Robbie · 01-18-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

actually there are consumers out there that actually think its free.

And that's the point of that marketing technique

pixovore · 01-19-2009, 02:20 AM

shady shitty billing tricks for sure

commonsense · 01-19-2009, 02:57 AM

This type of marketing appeals to the most basic user ... one who expects something for nothing, but is uneducated on how to find it for free. After getting burned they transition from that "curious" consumer to one that either:

a) pays for membership or clip sites
b) continues to search for "free" methods for their porn pleasures.

If they continue to expect something for nothing, FUCK THEM. Hope their computer clogs up with malware, viruses, spyware etc ... making them lose valuable data

01-18-2009, 02:38 PM	#1
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	So if the membership is free, why again do you need my credit card? Yeah got a spam today asking me to come back and see this new site for FREE! NO GIMMICS! You know, the standard hype-speak... so I check it out and they want my credit card information for this free site. Now I run free sites, and I don't need to ask my surfers for their credit card information. Could it have something to do with having cross sales on the join page? __________________ i like waffles

01-18-2009, 02:39 PM	#2
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	no they just want to verify you are 18 __________________

01-18-2009, 03:10 PM	#4
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Names please. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

01-18-2009, 03:14 PM	#7
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	xsale, upsales on members page etc... __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

01-18-2009, 03:16 PM	#8
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	If we all did that, only people with the means to pay would see our advertising. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

01-18-2009, 04:39 PM	#11
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	read the fine print theres 2 i have seen lately 1 is its free for life but it comes with a prechecked free trial cross sale that cant be unchecked the other is a free membership as long as you signup for several free trial sponsors in x amount of days __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-18-2009, 04:45 PM	#12
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,327	use a prepaid credit card with $1 on it __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

01-18-2009, 04:54 PM	#13
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01-18-2009, 05:19 PM	#17
doridori So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canadia Posts: 2,222	oh negative as in i havent seen one either.

01-18-2009, 05:46 PM	#20
marcjacob Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,063	Im always amazed these companies stay in biz. Are surfers really that dumb? Sadly, I guess many must be or they wouldnt do it. __________________ Free Site Express GFY Launch Offer Gay Demo Video - Straight Demo Video Icq: 191127710 Email: [email protected]

01-18-2009, 05:48 PM	#21
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,413	that;'s what i would like to know!

01-18-2009, 06:53 PM	#26
MrBro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 323	Also look at it this way. Some of these programs don't charge the surfer at all. But they do have the email of someone who is interested in adult stuff and has a credit card. Now where a general email is worth let's say 50 cents (double opt-in) an email with a confirmed cc attached has to be worth at least double that or probably 4 times that. Just selling that info (not talking about illegal stuff: selling cc info - just the emails and confirmed cc owners) to the right people is worth a lot of cookies.

01-18-2009, 07:41 PM	#28
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,039	So um... You've never promoted a site with free trials or what?

01-18-2009, 10:10 PM	#30
surferbob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: vancouver canada Posts: 108	i always pass on promoting free trials.... why lie and say something is free when they have to pull out the credit card... its not free __________________ Making a $$ with the help of these guys!

01-18-2009, 10:15 PM	#32
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Nothing is free. It's just marketing. You already knew that. Why the thread? It isn't like that's something new to anybody here. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

01-18-2009, 10:42 PM	#34
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	actually there are consumers out there that actually think its free.

01-19-2009, 02:20 AM	#37
pixovore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,128	shady shitty billing tricks for sure __________________ 80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds 3 & 5mins FLVs \| RSS & Tube Feeds \| Matching Thumbs \| FLV Browser & Exporter \| No Prechecked Xsales >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

01-19-2009, 02:57 AM	#38
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	This type of marketing appeals to the most basic user ... one who expects something for nothing, but is uneducated on how to find it for free. After getting burned they transition from that "curious" consumer to one that either: a) pays for membership or clip sites b) continues to search for "free" methods for their porn pleasures. If they continue to expect something for nothing, FUCK THEM. Hope their computer clogs up with malware, viruses, spyware etc ... making them lose valuable data Last edited by commonsense; 01-19-2009 at 02:58 AM..