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Rochard · 01-27-2009, 06:37 PM

I'm guessing we'll see more of this.

LA man upset over job kills wife, 5 kids, himself

LOS ANGELES ? A man who fatally shot his wife, five young children and himself Tuesday had earlier faxed a note to a TV station claiming the couple had just been fired from their hospital jobs and together planned the killings as a final escape for the whole family. "Why leave the children to a stranger?" Ervin Lupoe wrote, according to KABC-TV.

The station called police after receiving the fax, and a police dispatch center also received a call from a man who stated, "'I just returned home and my whole family's been shot."

Officers rushed to the home in Wilmington, a small community between the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, about 8:30 a.m., apparently within minutes of the killings. Officers could still smell the gunshot residue in the air.

Although the fax asserted that Ana Lupoe planning the killings of the whole family, police Lt. John Romero said Lupoe was the suspect. A revolver was found next to his body.

Ana Lupoe's body was found in a downstairs bedroom with the bodies of the couple's twin 2-year-old boys. The bodies of an 8-year-old girl, twin 5-year-old girls were found alongside Lupoe's in an upstairs bedroom.

It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. Police urged those facing tough economic times to get help rather than resort to violence

"Today our worst fear was realized," said Deputy Chief Kenneth Garner. "It's just not a solution. There's just so many ways you find alternatives to doing something so horrific and drastic as this."

Lupoe removed three of the children from school about a week and a half ago, saying the family was moving to Kansas, the school principal told KCAL-TV. Crescent Heights Elementary School Principal Cherise Pounders-Caver said nothing seemed to be troubling Lupoe at that time; she did not ask why the family was moving.

Kaiser Permanente Medical Center West Los Angeles released a statement confirming both Lupoe and his wife worked there; both were medical technicians.

"We are deeply saddened to hear of the deaths of the Lupoe family," it said in a statement.

In the letter he faxed to a TV station, Ervin Lupoe claimed he and his wife both had been fired and that she suggested they kill themselves and their children, too. Police described the fax but did not release the details.

KABC reported that the man claimed in the fax that a medical center administrator rebuffed them when they showed up to work, told them to file a union grievance and said, "You should have blown your brains out."

Lupoe wrote that they filed a grievance but nothing was done and two days later they were fired, KABC said.

"They did nothing to the manager who started such and did not attempt to assist us in the matter, knowing we have no job and five children under 8 years old with no place to go. So here we are," the note said.

At the bottom of the note, Lupoe wrote, "Oh lord, my God, is there no hope for a widow's son?"

The Kaiser Permanente statement made no comment on the claims in Lupoe's fax.

"He was going through some critical situations at the job, that's what he described in that two-page letter, ongoing problems at the job, and that's what prompted him to take his own life and his family's, from what was said in the fax letter," Garner said.

The two-story home, much larger than its one-story neighbors, sits in front of a railroad track in Wilmington, a small community about 18 miles south of downtown. A children's playset stood in the backyard.

Retired truck driver Jaime Solache, who lives a few doors down, said many of these newer, larger homes in the neighborhood had gone into foreclosure. The Lupoe house, which has a sign hanging above the driveway reading "The Lupoe's Pad," is about 6 years old, Solache said.

News of the killings sent shivers through the community, and several neighbors came to the yellow police tape to watch a steady procession of officials enter and leave the home.

"This area right here is quiet, calm," said Armando Chacon, who lives one block north. "People like to sit out at weekends and barbecue. Other than this, no problems at all."

A community meeting was planned later Tuesday in a local church.

It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year.

On Dec. 24, a man dressed up as Santa Claus invaded a Christmas Eve party at his ex-wife's parents' home in suburban Covina. His ex-wire and eight of her relatives died from gunshots or in the house fire he set. The man later killed himself.

In October, an unemployed financial manager despairing over extreme money problems shot and killed his wife, three children, mother-in-law and himself in their home in the Porter Ranch area of the San Fernando Valley.

In June, five members of a Turkish-American family, clad in black, were found dead in an upscale home in San Clemente. Investigators say it was apparently a suicide pact but the reason is a mystery.

V_RocKs · 01-27-2009, 06:43 PM

Yeah... Get ready for the suicide rush.

2012 · 01-27-2009, 06:50 PM

just the excuse he needed ... I think people like that were fucked up in the first place

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 06:54 PM

people have been offing themselves over the disintegrating economy for the last year.

tony286 · 01-27-2009, 07:01 PM

i cant see doing that over fucking money.you move to a smaller place,relocate where their are jobs for what you do. you dont kill your whole fucking family.

Si · 01-27-2009, 07:05 PM

thats fucked! why go so off the rails with bullshit of losing a job! there is always some way to make money.

Spunky · 01-27-2009, 07:08 PM

Damn shame how a mind snaps like that and innocent people are killed because of it

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 07:09 PM

jobs are much more than simply money. status and pride are a component.

Barefootsies · 01-27-2009, 07:17 PM

Agreed.

When you break it down to your existence, and the fact that from the time you are born you are running a tab. It makes it a pretty sick equation.

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

jobs are much more than simply money. status and pride are a component.

Much like those women who are beautiful when younger, and use that as their sole defining trait. Once it's gone, as they age, they are lost and depressed. I personally enjoy when they get traded in by their husband's for a younger woman.

Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

WinstonTriplexcash · 01-27-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

jobs are much more than simply money. status and pride are a component.

Yes, shame can really scare people off to kill themselves.

tony286 · 01-27-2009, 07:36 PM

I cant see shame when 50 k a week are losing their jobs.Its not a reflection of the person in these fucked up times and here in GA they could of got jobs tomorrow there is such a need for medical people.

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 07:40 PM

people are not economic robots.

billionaires that lost a fraction of their fortune are killing themselves.

Rochard · 01-27-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Much like those women who are beautiful when younger, and use that as their sole defining trait. Once it's gone, as they age, they are lost and depressed. I personally enjoy when they get traded in by their husband's for a younger woman.

Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

There's a lot of truth in that statement.

I know a woman named Belinda that I've known for a few years. She's a housewife with two kids. She spends her days working out and looks great for her age, but it's becoming clear that she's getting older and she's dressing like she's still twenty while she's truthfully forty. She can't let go of her youth....

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 07:48 PM

and when people lose their jobs they start to lose their house, cars, get behind on bills, creditors are calling and on and on ... it's easy to fall between the cracks ...

one of the worst things about this year is going to be the fucked up shit people will do when they lost it all and see no way out.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-27-2009, 07:53 PM

From the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention website:

Economy, Suicide and the Media

A number of recent stories in the media have highlighted tragic suicide deaths in the context of the current financial crisis. Although it is true that such stressors can precede a suicide, the issue of causation is much more complicated. In fact, more than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have an underlying psychiatric disorder at the time of their death, most often depression.

It is important to note that when people have recovered from their depression, the stressful events look different to them, and because they are thinking more clearly they can find better solutions to their problems.

Since the most recent statistics on suicide rates are from 2005, it is nearly impossible to determine the effect, if any, that the recent economic downturn has had on the nation?s suicide rate. And while historically, there have been reports about suicide rates increasing during past economic recessions, direct cause and effect has not been studied or determined (see a recent article by ABC News, ?Economic Depression Suicides A Myth??).

Therefore, it is important for the media to avoid sensationalizing recent news of suicides by linking them to the economy when the statistics are not available and facts are limited.

Instead, the media could educate the public about suicide warning signs, symptoms of depression and provide the public with information on how and where to seek help if they or someone they know is in trouble.

In addition to providing inaccurate information, highlighting stories about suicide deaths can run the risk of contributing to suicide contagion, also known as copycatting. Certain ways the media reports about this issue, such as oversimplifying and sensationalizing suicide, can contribute to contagion or in the very least can amplify more misinformation about suicide.

Nationally recognized recommendations for reporting on suicide are available at the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) website.

AFSP urges the media to refer to these recommendations for any and all future reportings on suicide, and consider adding into their coverage helpful resources for individuals in suicidal (1-800-273-TALK) and/or financial crisis.

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onwebcam · 01-27-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

At the bottom of the note, Lupoe wrote, "Oh lord, my God, is there no hope for a widow's son?"
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Sign of distress for high level freemasonry

"This sign also has an allusion. At the raising of the body of our Grand Master Hiram Abif, our ancient brethren found their hands involuntarily raised above their heads in token of horror and surprise, at the same time exclaiming, "Oh Lord, my God, is their no help for the Widow's Son?"

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/mas...istorical.html

onwebcam · 01-27-2009, 08:56 PM

"The words to be used in the dark, or when for any reason the sign cannot be given are: Oh Lord, my God, is there no help for the widow's Son? Either one will constitute the Sign of Distress."

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/mas...istorical.html

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-27-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Sign of distress for high level freemasonry

"This sign also has an allusion. At the raising of the body of our Grand Master Hiram Abif, our ancient brethren found their hands involuntarily raised above their heads in token of horror and surprise, at the same time exclaiming, "Oh Lord, my God, is their no help for the Widow's Son?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

"The words to be used in the dark, or when for any reason the sign cannot be given are: Oh Lord, my God, is there no help for the widow's Son? Either one will constitute the Sign of Distress."

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onwebcam · 01-27-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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RyuLion · 01-27-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

There's a lot of truth in that statement.

I know a woman named Belinda that I've known for a few years. She's a housewife with two kids. She spends her days working out and looks great for her age, but it's becoming clear that she's getting older and she's dressing like she's still twenty while she's truthfully forty. She can't let go of her youth....

RyuLion · 01-27-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

just the excuse he needed ... I think people like that were fucked up in the first place

you are 100% correct!

Agent 488 · 01-27-2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam

"The words to be used in the dark, or when for any reason the sign cannot be given are: Oh Lord, my God, is there no help for the widow's Son? Either one will constitute the Sign of Distress."

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/mas...istorical.html

makes it extra sad that not even his freemasonic brethren came to save him.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-27-2009, 09:38 PM

The least the guy should have done is taken out members of the Hospital with em, then blown the family away...

What a dumb ass.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-27-2009, 09:59 PM

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ExLust · 01-28-2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

and when people lose their jobs they start to lose their house, cars, get behind on bills, creditors are calling and on and on ... it's easy to fall between the cracks ...

one of the worst things about this year is going to be the fucked up shit people will do when they lost it all and see no way out.

Agreed and it feel sad knowing that life is not anymore sacred to them.

collegeboobies · 01-28-2009, 01:43 AM

The economy is really fucked, I dont know where its gonna end

mynameisjim · 01-28-2009, 02:07 AM

Ironically, the medical field is experiencing job growth.

raven1083 · 01-28-2009, 02:26 AM

lets just hope for the better

onwebcam · 01-28-2009, 05:04 AM

They were either killed for whats is to come or what has already happened. Lets hope for the past.

Firehorse · 01-28-2009, 05:16 AM

This is such a tragic story and may they all RIP

slapass · 01-28-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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that is awesome!

pornguy · 01-28-2009, 06:04 AM

" It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. Police urged those facing tough economic times to get help rather than resort to violence "

Go stand in a soup kitchen line while Child services takes your children because you can not give them a good home..

Ok I agree they might should have held back a bit in the bedroom, but still.

John-ACWM · 01-28-2009, 08:04 AM

They should have said 'we leave the kids to someone who is not fucked up like us'

tranza · 01-28-2009, 08:36 AM

Wtf?? Thats fucked up..insane attitude.

Scott McD · 01-28-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

LOS ANGELES – A man who fatally shot his wife, five young children and himself Tuesday had earlier faxed a note to a TV station claiming the couple had just been fired from their hospital jobs and together planned the killings as a final escape for the whole family. "Why leave the children to a stranger?" Ervin Lupoe wrote, according to KABC-TV.

Some people are fucked in the head. Poor kids were never even given a chance...

Chit Chat · 01-28-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

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Sarah_Jayne · 01-28-2009, 08:57 AM

We had a similar thing happen in the last part of 2008 in the UK. A guy that had wealth got into debt and so he killed himself, daughter and wife and torched their home killing all sorts of animals in the blaze to try to cover tracks.

seeandsee · 01-28-2009, 11:04 AM

obama change

Reak AGV · 01-28-2009, 11:05 AM

That's crazy news, horrible..

Daddy Big Nuts · 01-28-2009, 11:54 AM

We may all be postal workers before this deal is over

SilentKnight · 01-28-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartfly

just the excuse he needed ... I think people like that were fucked up in the first place

Mr. Romance · 01-28-2009, 12:50 PM

Weak. Step up and make things happen.

Mr. Romance

01-27-2009, 06:37 PM	#1
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,805	And thus it begins..... I'm guessing we'll see more of this. LA man upset over job kills wife, 5 kids, himself LOS ANGELES ? A man who fatally shot his wife, five young children and himself Tuesday had earlier faxed a note to a TV station claiming the couple had just been fired from their hospital jobs and together planned the killings as a final escape for the whole family. "Why leave the children to a stranger?" Ervin Lupoe wrote, according to KABC-TV. The station called police after receiving the fax, and a police dispatch center also received a call from a man who stated, "'I just returned home and my whole family's been shot." Officers rushed to the home in Wilmington, a small community between the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, about 8:30 a.m., apparently within minutes of the killings. Officers could still smell the gunshot residue in the air. Although the fax asserted that Ana Lupoe planning the killings of the whole family, police Lt. John Romero said Lupoe was the suspect. A revolver was found next to his body. Ana Lupoe's body was found in a downstairs bedroom with the bodies of the couple's twin 2-year-old boys. The bodies of an 8-year-old girl, twin 5-year-old girls were found alongside Lupoe's in an upstairs bedroom. It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. Police urged those facing tough economic times to get help rather than resort to violence "Today our worst fear was realized," said Deputy Chief Kenneth Garner. "It's just not a solution. There's just so many ways you find alternatives to doing something so horrific and drastic as this." Lupoe removed three of the children from school about a week and a half ago, saying the family was moving to Kansas, the school principal told KCAL-TV. Crescent Heights Elementary School Principal Cherise Pounders-Caver said nothing seemed to be troubling Lupoe at that time; she did not ask why the family was moving. Kaiser Permanente Medical Center West Los Angeles released a statement confirming both Lupoe and his wife worked there; both were medical technicians. "We are deeply saddened to hear of the deaths of the Lupoe family," it said in a statement. In the letter he faxed to a TV station, Ervin Lupoe claimed he and his wife both had been fired and that she suggested they kill themselves and their children, too. Police described the fax but did not release the details. KABC reported that the man claimed in the fax that a medical center administrator rebuffed them when they showed up to work, told them to file a union grievance and said, "You should have blown your brains out." Lupoe wrote that they filed a grievance but nothing was done and two days later they were fired, KABC said. "They did nothing to the manager who started such and did not attempt to assist us in the matter, knowing we have no job and five children under 8 years old with no place to go. So here we are," the note said. At the bottom of the note, Lupoe wrote, "Oh lord, my God, is there no hope for a widow's son?" The Kaiser Permanente statement made no comment on the claims in Lupoe's fax. "He was going through some critical situations at the job, that's what he described in that two-page letter, ongoing problems at the job, and that's what prompted him to take his own life and his family's, from what was said in the fax letter," Garner said. The two-story home, much larger than its one-story neighbors, sits in front of a railroad track in Wilmington, a small community about 18 miles south of downtown. A children's playset stood in the backyard. Retired truck driver Jaime Solache, who lives a few doors down, said many of these newer, larger homes in the neighborhood had gone into foreclosure. The Lupoe house, which has a sign hanging above the driveway reading "The Lupoe's Pad," is about 6 years old, Solache said. News of the killings sent shivers through the community, and several neighbors came to the yellow police tape to watch a steady procession of officials enter and leave the home. "This area right here is quiet, calm," said Armando Chacon, who lives one block north. "People like to sit out at weekends and barbecue. Other than this, no problems at all." A community meeting was planned later Tuesday in a local church. It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. On Dec. 24, a man dressed up as Santa Claus invaded a Christmas Eve party at his ex-wife's parents' home in suburban Covina. His ex-wire and eight of her relatives died from gunshots or in the house fire he set. The man later killed himself. In October, an unemployed financial manager despairing over extreme money problems shot and killed his wife, three children, mother-in-law and himself in their home in the Porter Ranch area of the San Fernando Valley. In June, five members of a Turkish-American family, clad in black, were found dead in an upscale home in San Clemente. Investigators say it was apparently a suicide pact but the reason is a mystery. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	From the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention website: Economy, Suicide and the Media A number of recent stories in the media have highlighted tragic suicide deaths in the context of the current financial crisis. Although it is true that such stressors can precede a suicide, the issue of causation is much more complicated. In fact, more than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have an underlying psychiatric disorder at the time of their death, most often depression. It is important to note that when people have recovered from their depression, the stressful events look different to them, and because they are thinking more clearly they can find better solutions to their problems. Since the most recent statistics on suicide rates are from 2005, it is nearly impossible to determine the effect, if any, that the recent economic downturn has had on the nation?s suicide rate. And while historically, there have been reports about suicide rates increasing during past economic recessions, direct cause and effect has not been studied or determined (see a recent article by ABC News, ?Economic Depression Suicides A Myth??). Therefore, it is important for the media to avoid sensationalizing recent news of suicides by linking them to the economy when the statistics are not available and facts are limited. Instead, the media could educate the public about suicide warning signs, symptoms of depression and provide the public with information on how and where to seek help if they or someone they know is in trouble. In addition to providing inaccurate information, highlighting stories about suicide deaths can run the risk of contributing to suicide contagion, also known as copycatting. Certain ways the media reports about this issue, such as oversimplifying and sensationalizing suicide, can contribute to contagion or in the very least can amplify more misinformation about suicide. Nationally recognized recommendations for reporting on suicide are available at the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) website. AFSP urges the media to refer to these recommendations for any and all future reportings on suicide, and consider adding into their coverage helpful resources for individuals in suicidal (1-800-273-TALK) and/or financial crisis. ----- ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

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01-27-2009, 06:54 PM	#4
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01-27-2009, 07:01 PM	#5
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	i cant see doing that over fucking money.you move to a smaller place,relocate where their are jobs for what you do. you dont kill your whole fucking family.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I cant see shame when 50 k a week are losing their jobs.Its not a reflection of the person in these fucked up times and here in GA they could of got jobs tomorrow there is such a need for medical people.

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	people are not economic robots. billionaires that lost a fraction of their fortune are killing themselves.

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