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Old 02-01-2009, 04:41 PM   #1
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:mad IE pisses me off

Seriously, why the fuck can't MS just follow the bloody standards?
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IE has been locking up my computer the last 3 days. So frustrating.
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developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
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developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin
I use FF for surfing, but don't mind using IE for that either.

My current problem is with development, though. And even if I'll get it right eventually, that's several hours wasted because MS can't follow standards
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Why the fuck you are using Ie.
If the Ie get fucked up for some reason( vir, troj) you have to reinstal your Win.
Just stop using it, use FF or Opera at worst, not IE!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:49 PM   #8
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Why the fuck you are using Ie.
If the Ie get fucked up for some reason( vir, troj) you have to reinstal your Win.
Just stop using it, use FF or Opera at worst, not IE!!!
GTFO, surfer.

(and yes, if you don't understand that websites I make have to work on IE, you're a surfer alright)
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Old 02-01-2009, 07:03 PM   #9
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:08 AM   #10
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:09 AM   #13
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Yep, IE can be a pain in the ass when it comes to developing. I always work live in both FF and IE to reduce the damage.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:17 AM   #14
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Yep, IE can be a pain in the ass when it comes to developing. I always work live in both FF and IE to reduce the damage.
That's what I do as well, but then, you can get what I call "the dance".

Your write some css, it works perfectly in FF, but in IE, whatever object you're trying to place is a few pixels to the side. So, you change your code, and now it looks good in IE, but in FF it has moved a few pixels. Etc.

It's pretty common with vertically aligned forms, in my experience. And you can usually solve it easily by using an exception for IE, but I hate doing that.
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are you using strict settings? and eliminating all default margins and padding?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:54 AM   #17
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are you using strict settings? and eliminating all default margins and padding?
Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.
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Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.
mind sharing the issue?
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:03 AM   #19
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Of course.

The thing that I ran into last night is actually a well-documented issue, with the only reliable fix being an exception for IE.
I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/
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I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:24 AM   #21
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The issue I was having was related to the one described here:
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/...arch-form-css/
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The issue I was having was related to the one described here:
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/...arch-form-css/
I had that exact same problem a few weeks ago
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I hear ya.

In some cases it might be useful making an additional CSS file that's only read by IE. That's what I usually do when shit gets bad.

http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-...ly-stylesheet/
See, my OCD doesn't allow me to actually do that. Everything must work with one single valid stylesheet, or I will be frustrated
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I seriously have so many fucking problems with IE, MS could debug this and transform into a browser more flexible, and it crashes a lot here... Safari works better than this piece of shit!
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I had that exact same problem a few weeks ago
Me fucking too... fuck that hurt my head for a couple hours too man...

found a way thoughhhhhh!!!!
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developer speaking, ie sucks, but surfing I like it, i only use firefox if im checking out if its compatible, or i need to use a plugin
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IE is a pain in the ass for developers!
It will never follow the standards, you just have to get used to it and code for different browsers. Sad but true.
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switch to FF and forget about IE...
I use it only to check my sites look...
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switch to FF and forget about IE...
I use it only to check my sites look...
I think he said he does use FF...

im sure hes just trying to make it compatible across all browsers... for surfers sake....

Its not about what WE prefer... its about making it available for ALL
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I'm not a fan of IE and FF stops responding and runs in the processes.. I should try Chrome
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I am thoroughly shocked that so many people think that when I'm complaining about standards, I'm looking for something to browse with.

Is GFY really *that* infested with surfers these days?
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I am thoroughly shocked that so many people think that when I'm complaining about standards, I'm looking for something to browse with.

Is GFY really *that* infested with surfers these days?
Dude, would you just fucking use Firefox... Fuck IE>.. it sucks... right?
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no dude, its much simpler... just use FF - fucking duh yo
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