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mizmiz · 02-06-2009, 01:00 AM

Hi,
What are xsells? anyone can point me in the reight direction?
Mark

F-U-Jimmy · 02-06-2009, 01:02 AM

Cross sales ?

Domain Diva · 02-06-2009, 01:07 AM

Simply put,when you purchase something you see extra items/services listed ,sometimes pre checked and sometimes not....so I guess it stands for extra sales.

Well thats my understanding of them !

mizmiz · 02-06-2009, 01:11 AM

So why people are saying its not legit, or cheat way to get a sell?

bobby666 · 02-06-2009, 01:13 AM

if you buy a car and also get a refrigerator (which doesn't fit into your car)

Matyko · 02-06-2009, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizmiz

So why people are saying its not legit, or cheat way to get a sell?

Because of in some cases the greedy program owners play nasty games with these cross sales and screwing the buyers who will probably never gonna buy porn again because of the very bad experience they had.

Toni · 02-06-2009, 02:33 AM

Try to book a trip with Expedia, they add insurance (XSELL)....
That would be a prechecked xsale

Oracle Porn · 02-06-2009, 02:35 AM

here's a picture the describes exactly what are xsells

seeandsee · 02-06-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

here's a picture the describes exactly what are xsells

pixovore · 02-06-2009, 03:30 AM

CROSS SALES in adult membership sites:
an extra membership sale done by the company you already bough a membership from.

can be a banner in the members area
can be a different membership proposed on cancellation
can be an instant upgrade / one click upgrade, done from the members area (instant upgrade = no need to retype your cc infos)
...

or it can be this new billing trend:
PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES

Let's say you are about to sign for a membership with a site proposing PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES:
On the signup form, you are entitled to 1, 2 or more extra sales for wich your agreement is pre checked.
As a client you have to read carefully and uncheck yourself if you do not want to buy the extra memberships / products you are "pre entitled" to buy, else you buy it.
A lot of pre checked cross sales are trials (= those are harder to track as they are discreet especially if the trials are $0):

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PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES exemple:
so let s say you sign for a trial membership called HUGEXXXPASS: a 2 days trial $1 rebilling $39.95 every month
and give your Credit Card infos in the join form.

On the signup page, 2 cross sales are prechecked: (not sure you paid attention to it but you are expected to...)
BlaBla-XXX-Pass : 2 days trial $0 rebilling $39.95 every month
Mega-BlaBla-SUPER-XXX-Pass : 2 days trial $0 rebilling $39.95 every month

So initial billing is $1 for the membership you signed for
then 3 days after you can be rebilled up to $119.95 if you did not cancel your 3 memberships:

= there is $39.95 for the rebilling of HUGEXXXPASS
+ there is $39.95 for the rebilling of BlaBla-XXX-Pass
+ there is $39.95 for the rebilling of Mega-BlaBla-SUPER-XXX-Pass

This practice is legal if PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES are visible on the signup form
Several well known billing companies help paysites to set this up
> Visa accepts this type of transactions
> Mastercard recently took some actions against this type of practices (cf: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ght=mastercard)

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+ and -:

+ enables to make a client to discover other memberships
+ more money billed by sponsors = sponsors can pay more their affiliates (like high PPS on trials such as 100 PPS, 50 PPS ...)
...

- many clients may have their credit cards overcharged (more than they really expected), some may loose their credibility with their bank, maybe be banned from CCs
- Will a customer charged $120+ total against his will, will he buy an adult membership again?
...

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Hopefully now you understand a bit better what's going on with Cross Sales and Pre Checked Cross sales
I m not judging it here, just explaining you some on how it goes.

Regards

tranza · 02-06-2009, 08:44 AM

All about money dude...!

chupachups · 02-06-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

here's a picture the describes exactly what are xsells

Those are really "Incredible Dollars"....

B2BwithJoeD · 02-06-2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

here's a picture the describes exactly what are xsells

Looks as if they need a more effective EU billing solution!

With responsible cross sales

Sharky · 02-06-2009, 08:57 AM

Listen to this: http://www.sin20.com/podcast/012609-...s-and-up-sales

Robbie · 02-06-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixovore

CROSS SALES in adult membership sites:
an extra membership sale done by the company you already bough a membership from.

can be a banner in the members area

or it can be this new billing trend:
PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES

Uhmmmm....a banner in the members area is NOT a x-sell

And prechecked x-sells are not a "new billing trend" unless you consider several years to be "new"

Just clearing that up. People who may not have any actual experience in running a paysite don't always have the exact understanding of how it works. Just misconceptions from the threads written on here by people pissed off at the aggressive tactics of some companies.

Si · 02-06-2009, 09:28 AM

are you being serious?

Or,

Just seriously fucking retarded?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-06-2009, 10:19 AM

The scab on the ass of our industry.

mizmiz · 02-06-2009, 10:47 AM

Ok...Do you have some examples urls that using xsells to charge people?

Dirty Lord · 02-06-2009, 10:48 AM

i'm not sure about!

02-06-2009, 01:00 AM	#1
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02-06-2009, 01:11 AM	#4
mizmiz So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holly Place Posts: 1,168	So why people are saying its not legit, or cheat way to get a sell?

02-06-2009, 02:35 AM	#8
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,432	here's a picture the describes exactly what are xsells __________________

02-06-2009, 03:30 AM	#10
pixovore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,128	CROSS SALES in adult membership sites: an extra membership sale done by the company you already bough a membership from. can be a banner in the members area can be a different membership proposed on cancellation can be an instant upgrade / one click upgrade, done from the members area (instant upgrade = no need to retype your cc infos) ... or it can be this new billing trend: PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES Let's say you are about to sign for a membership with a site proposing PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES: On the signup form, you are entitled to 1, 2 or more extra sales for wich your agreement is pre checked. As a client you have to read carefully and uncheck yourself if you do not want to buy the extra memberships / products you are "pre entitled" to buy, else you buy it. A lot of pre checked cross sales are trials (= those are harder to track as they are discreet especially if the trials are $0): -------------------------------- PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES exemple: so let s say you sign for a trial membership called HUGEXXXPASS: a 2 days trial $1 rebilling $39.95 every month and give your Credit Card infos in the join form. On the signup page, 2 cross sales are prechecked: (not sure you paid attention to it but you are expected to...) BlaBla-XXX-Pass : 2 days trial $0 rebilling $39.95 every month Mega-BlaBla-SUPER-XXX-Pass : 2 days trial $0 rebilling $39.95 every month So initial billing is $1 for the membership you signed for then 3 days after you can be rebilled up to $119.95 if you did not cancel your 3 memberships: = there is $39.95 for the rebilling of HUGEXXXPASS + there is $39.95 for the rebilling of BlaBla-XXX-Pass + there is $39.95 for the rebilling of Mega-BlaBla-SUPER-XXX-Pass This practice is legal if PRE CHECKED CROSS SALES are visible on the signup form Several well known billing companies help paysites to set this up > Visa accepts this type of transactions > Mastercard recently took some actions against this type of practices (cf: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ght=mastercard) -------------------------------- + and -: + enables to make a client to discover other memberships + more money billed by sponsors = sponsors can pay more their affiliates (like high PPS on trials such as 100 PPS, 50 PPS ...) ... - many clients may have their credit cards overcharged (more than they really expected), some may loose their credibility with their bank, maybe be banned from CCs - Will a customer charged $120+ total against his will, will he buy an adult membership again? ... -------------------------------- Hopefully now you understand a bit better what's going on with Cross Sales and Pre Checked Cross sales I m not judging it here, just explaining you some on how it goes. Regards __________________ 80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds 3 & 5mins FLVs \| RSS & Tube Feeds \| Matching Thumbs \| FLV Browser & Exporter \| No Prechecked Xsales >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

02-06-2009, 08:44 AM	#11
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	All about money dude...! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

02-06-2009, 08:57 AM	#14
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Listen to this: http://www.sin20.com/podcast/012609-...s-and-up-sales __________________ Sharky

02-06-2009, 09:28 AM	#16
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	are you being serious? Or, Just seriously fucking retarded?

02-06-2009, 10:19 AM	#17
Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE MOBILE PORN: IMOBILEPORN Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Tinseltown NL Posts: 16,502	The scab on the ass of our industry.

02-06-2009, 10:47 AM	#18
mizmiz So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Holly Place Posts: 1,168	Ok...Do you have some examples urls that using xsells to charge people?

02-06-2009, 10:48 AM	#19
Dirty Lord Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,681	i'm not sure about! __________________