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View Poll Results: How far off are your sales from 1 year ago? | |||
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11 | 4.07% |
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66 | 24.44% |
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59 | 21.85% |
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28 | 10.37% |
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6 | 2.22% |
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5 | 1.85% |
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10 | 3.70% |
I am making more money! |
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85 | 31.48% |
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yes, but couldn't you work with a biller on the fact that the micropayments would be billed to already paying customers(based on my scenarios above)...therefore having a WAY lower chargeback ratio(my guess it would be almost non exisitent since the only people signing up for these micropayments are already paying customers)
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100 new sales
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Tube groupie.
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Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
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10 years ago I worked every waking second, barely any other sites or webmasters to compete with and I made over 1000 a day.
now I work from 8-40 hours a week and I feel like a grain of sand in our solar system.. yet I still make 30% of what I did 10 years ago. its less but I can't complain really. |
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Tube groupie.
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and those are my favorite kind of sales...if I didn't have them I think I might be homeless right now....I just wish companies would be more innovative on getting them instead of worrying about the initial sale
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This thread is full of FAIL and xxxjay is a moron.
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How it would be 200% down? 100% debt?
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Same question at the same time, lol
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Orgasms N Such!
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Jesus christ, and i thought i was the only one ! Here too mate. 11 years online. I miss the Xpics days. NO CONVERTION and like what, 18 cents/click if i recall (can you imagine) Of course you'll see "I make more money" at the top of the survey. 80% of the webmasters in here have been working in porn for less than 3 years, no wonder ! If you were making 300$/month and now you make 500$ WOW dude, congrats ![]() The bills of running such a biz are getting bigger and bigger. 100's of domains, softwares, servers, vps, bandwidth etc... |
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So Fucking Banned
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there's no $$$ in porn
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Tube groupie.
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so far february doesn't look too good...
let's how it will when it ends... |
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Business is so bad. You all should get out of the business.
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Like I said in my earlier post... second week of the month is blowing ass. First week of the month we were about 10-15% UP.... This second week (which I like to call the, "Oh shit, I got my cc statement," week) is about 25% off...
Hopefully they forget about their cc's and what they owe by next week...
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here you go shap and DF re read what I posted
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My sales are over 50% down.
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I'm in the bizz for 14 years, The BOOMING time, you did put up one nipple and people bought it. Making huge money had days with 6000 US sign-ups. In 2003 I sold all my sites just on the HYPE of Internet is the new world, made good money out of that. But I saw already a huge dropdown. I only can wondering that at the moment it must be fucking hard to maintaine your sites.
I did go in the producing sector, sales are way down since last year, so again I sold my studio to an other company. Just getting out of the shit on the right moment. Now I take only orders from old clients, who are paying for sure, had some serious probems with some guys ordering and not paying. I also see that webmasters dont care at the moment about the quality of the content, they are looking for LOW prices, I deny to shoot stuff like that, there I put my soul in my work and not just ah fuck it just an other scene. 2009 will be hard, lots of huge companies are closing down.
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doing a stats run right now, be back to you in a sec
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my sales are down 25% from last year at this exact same time
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I will honestly say that sales have definitely been hurting as of the past 8 months.
To those who say "things are only getting better" must have started from meager beginnings in the first place, where as you only had room to improve. The usual traffic sources are becoming less and less productive on a daily basis, be it a culmination of the tubes/economy/cross sales, I'm not sure.. all I know is people who say there has been zero affect are full of shit. The economy alone has touched everyone in one way or another. I use to be able to double my ROI with ease, now I'm lucky to get 15-20%. There are only two different options as I see it, either: A) lie to your traffic and rip them off B) be completely honest in your marketing approach and gain their trust But perhaps that's just me ![]() |
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I am 200 percent up on Beautifulfeetonline.com and Digitaldivas is about the same, perhaps 10 percent lower.
I have not really been active with digitaldivas, still indexing and joining affiliate programs. DDO is still under construction, btw, about 60 percent complete. Not really putting my heart and soul into promoting yet. Beautifulfeetonline.com, I have been promoting like mad since Jan 1st, my alexa has gone from 788,552 to 523,556 and still dropping. I am also dropping my 29.95 per month full access to 10.00 per month access for the rest of this month. I did this last year as well and almost crashed my server, and quadrupled my signups, as well. The rest of the month will be fantastic for me. But I am niche and microniche, and not alot of my competition shoots in HDV, nor are they also lifestyle foot fetishists...
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I know that foot fetich is hot, but men I have to puke when I see a dirty feet.
Thats one of the first things I look at a women if the feets are not correct I dump her in a heart beat.
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Lol, me too! Not to talk, but barefootsies can agree. Serious Footies look at touching womens feet like touching the lines of a ferrari. Some bigger companies that push foot fetish thinks that any foot will do. Not so, Perverts, especially foot fetishists know if the site owner has passion or is of the same discipline or not in the first 10 seconds they hit the main page.
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I can't speak for ALL fetishes. But I know for my markets, tickling and feet, that the members/patrons/customers/fans can tell almost instantly if you actually really have the fetish or not. A lot of the new foot sites I see coming out now may get a few sales. But I still see many who are going to fail or have a difficult time. Regardless of the super high quality photography. In fetish, it's about the action more than fancy presentation. Digitaldivas is the two-fer. You get high res and true foot lover. |
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...Live it, Love it! Thanks BF, I agree, I would say that with such things as bdsm, forced submission, etc, etc. People who play, know... Maybe that is what separates some ass sites with others, or boob sites, etc.
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For example, I used to make more money on DVD and memberships then clip sales. Now it can be some months more clip sales then the other. So clips make up the money I lose in recurring membership. Same customers. Just opting to pay more with buying individual clips. Or I will have a month where members want to buy custom content. So they pay for tailored material to the script they submit. The traffic, and HOW I make my money is different. The end result, or ball park, is the same month to month more a less. I typically look at the year's and compare, not 7 months. So I would have to look. However, the point is, over all. My 'sales' or company 'profits' as defined in this thread continue to go up, to remain stable despite the economy. If you have never competed in a niche market with exclusive, original content, I can understand your disbelief. But I stand by what I've posted in this, and other threads on the subject. Niche is not the same rules as mainstream porn. There is not as much of it, nor tons available on tubes. So the patrons have to PAY FOR IT. Plus, smaller niche players are more dedicated to protecting, and policing our content. |
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33% claiming they are making more money?
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It is very interesting thread. Nice to know. If you guys need content that makes money. Hit me up....I will help!
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Exactly, and if you made tens of thousands per month as an affiliate and now are only make thousands, you've been in it longer and it sucks to see things go in reverse.
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I just ran my StatsRemote from the month on Jan 08 and compared them to Jan 09. I am up 25% from last year for the month on Jan. My traffic is also up to 35% from last year for the month of Jan.
Seriously, I am putting more time and afford into my blogs then ever before. I sit in front of the computer for 8 to 10 hour stretches. I remember back in 2000 - 2003 I could take off a whole summer, skip a few weeks, and still make a killing. Those days are so fucking over.
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There might be some SMS biller or something which could do micropayments, although I'm not sure what I'd sell with them, if someone is already a member. But then affiliates would not get credit for those sales.
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february was bad, probably worst I've ever seen
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I am hearing between 10-25% from most.
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