Paysighting = Scammer - GoFuckYourself.com

Tulku · 02-04-2009, 04:22 AM

Hi,
Paysighting is a scammer ..
about 2-3 weeks ago I've posted here on GFY thread about epass to paypal exchange : http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/881409-epass-paypal-500-a.html

So he send me ICQ etc.. so I've sent him $530 and waited about 5-6 minutes and no money and no answers ..
after a couple of hours he told me to send him an email and I did it and here was his reply:

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Hey man,

I dont know where to begin. I messed up, and i messed up pretty bad.

I understand that you are angry, but i want to give you some kind of explanation.
If you look att the threads i made the last week on gfy you can tell that i was pretty desperate.
I had an electricity bill that had to be taken care of asap. The last day i caould pay it was Friday.
I have tried basically everything, but i could'nt fix the damn bill.
So, i noticed your thread, and i saw my chance. Yes, i know it's low, and i cant fucking belive i actually did it.
I have never ever scammed someone, and i could never live with a thing like this.
I used your money to pay that fucking bill.

Is my bills your responsibilty? No, of course not. But again, i was desperate and afraid. I saw a chance and i took it.

Now what? I'm not gonna just sit here and keep your money. I'm gonna pay it back. Every single dime. Only thing is i cant do it today.

All i ask is that you dont ruin any threads for me, so that i can gather epass funds from a cpl. of new design deals im going to offer tomorrow, and Friday.

Im not asking you to forgive me. That would just be silly if i expected something like that.
No, only thing i ask is that you leave my threads alone, so i can make some $ to pay you back asap.

/Michael
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So I've waited then he told me when he get his salary he'll load his epass account and send me the money .. plus a couple of some more bullshit emails ..
However I didn't get my money back ..
So Don't Send ANY Money to this Fucking SCAMMER

I'll send info to the admin also to ban him .. plus some emails to some people ...

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-04-2009, 04:24 AM

sig spottin...

chupachups · 02-04-2009, 04:25 AM

Omfg....

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-04-2009, 04:30 AM

Epass couldn't get your money back..?

Tulku · 02-04-2009, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark

Epass couldn't get your money back..?

No .. I've told them right away but Michael told me they can't back the money from transfers ..

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-04-2009, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulku

No .. I've told them right away but Michael told me they can't back the money from transfers ..

Damn man..

JamesK · 02-04-2009, 04:36 AM

Holy shit, what a crook.

dial · 02-04-2009, 04:42 AM

when are you people going to learn????

Darkhorse · 02-04-2009, 04:44 AM

Sad you got scammed, adding him to my list of fuckfaces...

Tulku · 02-04-2009, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial

when are you people going to learn????

hmm .. yes .. Don't send that amount of money to people that don't know them .. and also check all of the info about them ..

DutchTeenCash · 02-04-2009, 04:48 AM

holy fuck he took your cash and ran?

there are just a few ppl here who do transfer who are ok, you have to get vouched for and Id never send that much to someone I dont know, still it sucks

make sure you get it back, I would

where is he from?

DutchTeenCash · 02-04-2009, 04:50 AM

my bad 530 it is even

polish_aristocrat · 02-04-2009, 04:58 AM

he's been selling some designs few days ago

LatinCams · 02-04-2009, 05:06 AM

Any comments from him on this thread, is nice always to hear both sides

Tulku · 02-04-2009, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LatinCams

Any comments from him on this thread, is nice always to hear both sides

there's no need from his comments .. I've posted his email reply .. don't you read it .. he's bullshiting me 2-3 weeks ..

Unlimited · 02-04-2009, 05:21 AM

OMFG!

I cant believe it

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-04-2009, 05:41 AM

Fucking ban him.

bizarrejan · 02-04-2009, 05:47 AM

I do know Michael, and he was reliable, but as this thread clearly states , he has scammed and its not good,

He needs to try to resolve this, but where is he????

He is desperate for work, he should be on line, icq? reply to emails?

Si · 02-04-2009, 06:14 AM

oh dear another scammer on gfy

u-Bob · 02-04-2009, 06:16 AM

bump

Zuzana Designs · 02-04-2009, 06:20 AM

sorry to hear about this

The Duck · 02-04-2009, 06:21 AM

Hope you get your money back. Hate scammers.

Ditosta · 02-04-2009, 06:21 AM

Damn, I am shocked that he was so honest with it!

Ditosta · 02-04-2009, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah

Hope you get your money back. Hate scammers.

Don't we all!

blowme_DL · 02-04-2009, 06:50 AM

darn i saw him post last time looking for some client last week?? if im not mistake.. im sorry to hear about that

( sad to say that some people would scam!!

bloggerz · 02-04-2009, 07:05 AM

bump for you

jscott · 02-04-2009, 07:22 AM

Wow, I've done biz with him before and it went smooth, I guess I'm just lucky

Times are really hard for everyone, yes, but he went about this 100% wrong way, morally, SO sad to see somebody stoop this low

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2009, 07:24 AM

it was beginning to get obvious the guy is/was desperate and this little incident will cost him more than the amount he scammed for.

once a scammer always a scammer. how do you know this is the first, or the last? you dont.

bizarrejan · 02-04-2009, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

Wow, I've done biz with him before and it went smooth, I guess I'm just lucky

Times are really hard for everyone, yes, but he went about this 100% wrong way, morally, SO sad to see somebody stoop this low

yes times are hard for everyone...... but where is he to try to rebuild his "good" reputation? anyone know?

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/885734-paysighting.html

Lee · 02-04-2009, 07:26 AM

Incredibly low.

CIVMatt · 02-04-2009, 07:42 AM

Jesus so I wake up and get some coffee and I'm finding out I'm getting scammed for $140 as well.... wtf

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2009, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Jesus so I wake up and get some coffee and I'm finding out I'm getting scammed for $140 as well.... wtf

same guy or different?

Juicy D. Links · 02-04-2009, 07:46 AM

Wow........................

Juicy D. Links · 02-04-2009, 07:49 AM

amazes me on how many people here are "ballers" but yet dont have any money for someone as simple as utility bills....

What this guy did is fucking ridiculous and criminal

WeirdHomer · 02-04-2009, 07:51 AM

I'm speechless........ hope you get your money back.

spacedog · 02-04-2009, 07:53 AM

Guess he'll be in jail soon

CIVMatt · 02-04-2009, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

same guy or different?

Same guy but for a design job not a transfer, hope this works out... you only need to put some labor in the finish that job I'm not sure what this has to do with utilities

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Same guy but for a design job not a transfer, hope this works out... you only need to put some labor in the finish that job I'm not sure what this has to do with utilities

id be surprised if ANY of it had to do with utilities,... once you start seeing the "oh i got 6 kids to feed, i need to pay my light bill" thats all sympathy shit.

to understand a con, you HAVE TO KNOW, SYMPATHY is one of the things they use against you.

cons are a strict game like chess

go a google search for how cons work and read up

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2009, 08:04 AM

as i said, look at this quote from this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=885451

quote from today...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

Paysighting, just to show sympathy I'll order some banners from you, BUT I'll give you the specs and pay you ONLY AFTER I've received them, just hit me up if so
130321510

people now feel sorry for him

amazing, but they wouldnt do it if it didnt work.

blowme_DL · 02-04-2009, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt

Same guy but for a design job not a transfer, hope this works out... you only need to put some labor in the finish that job I'm not sure what this has to do with utilities

I hope youll have your design job also..

bizarrejan · 02-04-2009, 08:09 AM

Hi,

I changed my password to something random bogus password to make sure i could never log in again.
Can you please post this for me in a new thread?

-----------------------------------

thread title: RE: PAYSIGHTING

I messed up, and i messed up pretty bad. I know that "i'm sorry" wont solve anything.
This thread has nothing to do with me trying to rebuild my reputation. I know i can never rebuild it.
Michael e mailed me and asked me to post this on his behalf............................

It's not just tulku i owe money. I have accepted a whole lot of work and took 50% and from a few 100% upfront.
I'm on my daughters computer right now, cause i had to sell my computer a few days ago.

That means i cant deliver anything.

But, i'll pay back everything that i owe people. It'll take months and maybe more, but i'll make it somehow. Tulku will be the first in line.

It's very sad that everything came down to this mess, but i've been desperate the last few months.

Again, i'll pay back every single dime.

/Michael

Juicy D. Links · 02-04-2009, 08:10 AM

what a prickkk

Fletch XXX · 02-04-2009, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizarrejan

Hi,

I changed my password to something random bogus password to make sure i could never log in again.

a lie.

the guy probably doesnt even have any kids, dont fall for this shit.

i also dont believe he sold his computer and "kept" his daughters, this is horseshit,..

bizarrejan · 02-04-2009, 08:16 AM

I got this e mail from Michael just now.................

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizarrejan

Hi,

I changed my password to something random bogus password to make sure i could never log in again.
Can you please post this for me in a new thread?

-----------------------------------

thread title: RE: PAYSIGHTING

I messed up, and i messed up pretty bad. I know that "i'm sorry" wont solve anything.
This thread has nothing to do with me trying to rebuild my reputation. I know i can never rebuild it.
Michael e mailed me and asked me to post this on his behalf............................

It's not just tulku i owe money. I have accepted a whole lot of work and took 50% and from a few 100% upfront.
I'm on my daughters computer right now, cause i had to sell my computer a few days ago.

That means i cant deliver anything.

But, i'll pay back everything that i owe people. It'll take months and maybe more, but i'll make it somehow. Tulku will be the first in line.

It's very sad that everything came down to this mess, but i've been desperate the last few months.

Again, i'll pay back every single dime.

/Michael

Dirty F · 02-04-2009, 08:17 AM

I would never scam anyone even if i couldn't pay my bills. Just shows what scum some people turn into when they need money.

Pics Traffic · 02-04-2009, 08:25 AM

Please tell me it ain't so. Im losing my trust in people and especially designers. he came back with good sketch and I thought he was going to be good. had 3 more sites for him. Mother fucking blaaaaahhhh. Not a good way to start my morning. fuck..

Kron · 02-04-2009, 08:26 AM

what a pile of lies

missipissi · 02-04-2009, 08:32 AM

This is a whole lot of drama for 9:30 in the morning.

Wow.

AnniKN · 02-04-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

id be surprised if ANY of it had to do with utilities,... once you start seeing the "oh i got 6 kids to feed, i need to pay my light bill" thats all sympathy shit.

to understand a con, you HAVE TO KNOW, SYMPATHY is one of the things they use against you.

cons are a strict game like chess

go a google search for how cons work and read up

If you have read everything around him before this situation, you'd know he was a trustworthy, hardworking guy. It's fucked up, but he did plan to deliver the work he was given. I bought a logo from him and he delivered - he was ridiculously honest regarding the transfer scam as well and was planning to finish the work to be able to pay back, but now he can't finish the work and he has to choose.

It was probably not just the light bill that was the whole problem, it was just the first thing to pay as to be able to keep working for the money. The reason he sold his computer and not his daughter's is that his was good and would actually sell..

There is logic in this. It was someone who was desperate for cash, who planned to offer work but couldn't get enough projects going, scammed for it, and then since he still didn't get that much work had sold his computer and couldn't deliver. Fucked up, but let's not go all paranoid on half-facts.

Lee · 02-04-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnniKN

If you have read everything around him before this situation, you'd know he was a trustworthy, hardworking guy. It's fucked up, but he did plan to deliver the work he was given. I bought a logo from him and he delivered - he was ridiculously honest regarding the transfer scam as well and was planning to finish the work to be able to pay back, but now he can't finish the work and he has to choose.

It was probably not just the light bill that was the whole problem, it was just the first thing to pay as to be able to keep working for the money. The reason he sold his computer and not his daughter's is that his was good and would actually sell..

There is logic in this. It was someone who was desperate for cash, who planned to offer work but couldn't get enough projects going, scammed for it, and then since he still didn't get that much work had sold his computer and couldn't deliver. Fucked up, but let's not go all paranoid on half-facts.

Im sorry but you cant defend the indefensible, what he did was criminal in my book, he even admitted his intent.

02-04-2009, 04:22 AM	#1
Tulku Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Porn Town Posts: 669	Paysighting = Scammer Hi, Paysighting is a scammer .. about 2-3 weeks ago I've posted here on GFY thread about epass to paypal exchange : http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/881409-epass-paypal-500-a.html So he send me ICQ etc.. so I've sent him $530 and waited about 5-6 minutes and no money and no answers .. after a couple of hours he told me to send him an email and I did it and here was his reply: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hey man, I dont know where to begin. I messed up, and i messed up pretty bad. I understand that you are angry, but i want to give you some kind of explanation. If you look att the threads i made the last week on gfy you can tell that i was pretty desperate. I had an electricity bill that had to be taken care of asap. The last day i caould pay it was Friday. I have tried basically everything, but i could'nt fix the damn bill. So, i noticed your thread, and i saw my chance. Yes, i know it's low, and i cant fucking belive i actually did it. I have never ever scammed someone, and i could never live with a thing like this. I used your money to pay that fucking bill. Is my bills your responsibilty? No, of course not. But again, i was desperate and afraid. I saw a chance and i took it. Now what? I'm not gonna just sit here and keep your money. I'm gonna pay it back. Every single dime. Only thing is i cant do it today. All i ask is that you dont ruin any threads for me, so that i can gather epass funds from a cpl. of new design deals im going to offer tomorrow, and Friday. Im not asking you to forgive me. That would just be silly if i expected something like that. No, only thing i ask is that you leave my threads alone, so i can make some $ to pay you back asap. /Michael --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I've waited then he told me when he get his salary he'll load his epass account and send me the money .. plus a couple of some more bullshit emails .. However I didn't get my money back .. So Don't Send ANY Money to this Fucking SCAMMER I'll send info to the admin also to ban him .. plus some emails to some people ...

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02-04-2009, 04:24 AM	#2
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02-04-2009, 04:25 AM	#3
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02-04-2009, 04:30 AM	#4
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02-04-2009, 04:44 AM	#9
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02-04-2009, 04:58 AM	#13
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02-04-2009, 05:21 AM	#16
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02-04-2009, 05:41 AM	#17
Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 7,515	Fucking ban him.

02-04-2009, 05:47 AM	#18
bizarrejan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,487	I do know Michael, and he was reliable, but as this thread clearly states , he has scammed and its not good, He needs to try to resolve this, but where is he???? He is desperate for work, he should be on line, icq? reply to emails?

02-04-2009, 06:14 AM	#19
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	oh dear another scammer on gfy

02-04-2009, 06:16 AM	#20
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02-04-2009, 06:20 AM	#21
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02-04-2009, 06:21 AM	#22
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02-04-2009, 06:21 AM	#23
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02-04-2009, 06:50 AM	#25
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02-04-2009, 07:05 AM	#26
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02-04-2009, 07:22 AM	#27
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Wow, I've done biz with him before and it went smooth, I guess I'm just lucky Times are really hard for everyone, yes, but he went about this 100% wrong way, morally, SO sad to see somebody stoop this low

02-04-2009, 07:24 AM	#28
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	it was beginning to get obvious the guy is/was desperate and this little incident will cost him more than the amount he scammed for. once a scammer always a scammer. how do you know this is the first, or the last? you dont. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-04-2009, 07:26 AM	#30
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	Incredibly low.

02-04-2009, 07:42 AM	#31
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02-04-2009, 07:46 AM	#33
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Wow........................

02-04-2009, 07:49 AM	#34
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	amazes me on how many people here are "ballers" but yet dont have any money for someone as simple as utility bills.... What this guy did is fucking ridiculous and criminal

02-04-2009, 07:51 AM	#35
WeirdHomer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Interwebs Posts: 806	I'm speechless........ hope you get your money back.

02-04-2009, 07:53 AM	#36
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Guess he'll be in jail soon

02-04-2009, 08:09 AM	#41
bizarrejan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,487	Hi, I changed my password to something random bogus password to make sure i could never log in again. Can you please post this for me in a new thread? ----------------------------------- thread title: RE: PAYSIGHTING I messed up, and i messed up pretty bad. I know that "i'm sorry" wont solve anything. This thread has nothing to do with me trying to rebuild my reputation. I know i can never rebuild it. Michael e mailed me and asked me to post this on his behalf............................ It's not just tulku i owe money. I have accepted a whole lot of work and took 50% and from a few 100% upfront. I'm on my daughters computer right now, cause i had to sell my computer a few days ago. That means i cant deliver anything. But, i'll pay back everything that i owe people. It'll take months and maybe more, but i'll make it somehow. Tulku will be the first in line. It's very sad that everything came down to this mess, but i've been desperate the last few months. Again, i'll pay back every single dime. /Michael

02-04-2009, 08:10 AM	#42
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	what a prickkk

02-04-2009, 08:17 AM	#45
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I would never scam anyone even if i couldn't pay my bills. Just shows what scum some people turn into when they need money.

02-04-2009, 08:25 AM	#46
Pics Traffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 3,055	Please tell me it ain't so. Im losing my trust in people and especially designers. he came back with good sketch and I thought he was going to be good. had 3 more sites for him. Mother fucking blaaaaahhhh. Not a good way to start my morning. fuck..

02-04-2009, 08:26 AM	#47
Kron Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,668	what a pile of lies __________________ I dont exchange money!

02-04-2009, 08:32 AM	#48
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