"Straight" Males In Adult Who Have Fucked Men For Money then perform with girls

[Fletch XXX]

I dont think a week goes by where I do not see a guy I personally have known to have worked some gay for pay scenes, and fucked a dude up the butt or taken a beefy shaft up their own man cunt in a tour slipping that same cock in and out some sweet slut cunt.

It just happened again today so I got the urge to start this thread...

Most of the girl talent I know or have known are grossed out by the idea of guys fucking other guys and then performing with them... but yet I see talent time and time again involved in hetero sex now, but two years ago they were doing gay scenes.

Peter North is one of the most known, but there are a thousand more and I only know because I worked at porn studio and talked with a lot of male talent who came in and know they worked with guys and then started working with girls, or had a history or some gay scenes and now try to hide that fact....

does this gross you out? do you think its healthy policy for adult?

your thoughts?

I personally feel we work in the adult industry and guys should fuck a tranny one day then a vagina the next... or hell same day 3 way bi sex for all I care. I had a gay pornstar roomate at one time in my life so I have nothing against gays or guys who are gay for pay!

if theres a hole, let it be filled with hard cock is my thoughts, yours?

[donkevlar]

If you're noticing the guys in the porn you should be watching the gay flicks anyways, no?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by donkevlar

If you're noticing the guys in the porn you should be watching the gay flicks anyways, no?

I deal with a fairly equal amount of gay, tranny, and hetero.

I work in adult, i have no problem editing photos of men with 9 inche hard black cocks up each other ass, or look at high quality HD teen slit.

all the same to me, after 10 years, cock is the new pussy

[RayBonga]

my thoughts: who cares?

those girls get paid to fuck on camera but feel the right to be picky about guys that did gay?

as long as there is no real risk (for example higher probability of aids) they should stop being dumb and do what they are paid to do without complains

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

no such thing as gay for pay. only gay...

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I if theres a hole, let it be filled with hard cock is my thoughts

nice motto

[Quagmire]

after being in this biz for a while and seeing fetish stuff thats supposed to be 'straight' people, I don't really think it matters what hole some content dude is dipping his wick in. Some of the female content is dirtier than some other dude's asshole.

[DrChango]

Had no idea Peter North ever did gay.

The 'gross out' factor with female models just sounds ludicrous, but they may have legitimate concerns vis-a-vis safety if that same guy was doing gay bareback stuff.

My roommate brings other guys home and quite frankly that isn't my concern who he brings home provided they don't drink my fucking soy milk (then it's on like Donkey Kong!), but he and all of my other friends who play that side of the fence say safe sex in the gay community is a huge fucking issue.
So, back to how that last bit ties into the conversation: if a guy does gay scenes too the chick should STFU, especially if she is doing an anal anyways, but if that guy is doing gay bareback then she would be well within her rights to refuse to do a scene with him or insist on using a condom in the scene.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

nice motto

ive worked on the set of multi guy gang bangs, granny gang bangs, ive been on too many porn sets to care about gay or not thats for sure. Ive filmed tons of trannies, and am pretty unaffected by naked men around me.

i work with gay porn very, very often and have many clients who work in every niche from gay bears to teen solo girls.

one of my oldest clients is the guy from Bad Puppy and Daddy Dater stuff.

my wife also did the Cherry twinks logo for Lightspeed way back in the day. Ive been doing gay -related design stuff for years... if I only took hetero jobs Id work half as much as i do.

so yeah, if theres a hole, let it be filled with hard cock for all i care...

heheh

love seeing that banner on gfy PA, looks good, and thanks again for hitting me up to design it!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by DrChango

Had no idea Peter North ever did gay.

his name was Matt Ramsey.

And most dont know about it beause he was doing gay scenes before straight. he entered the business doing gay. He was top AND bottom. he took cock and gave it for those unfamiliar with the term...

Its on his wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_North_(porn_star)

he is one of many who have tried to cover it up, but he even has a small but loyal group of gay porn fans whom love his cumshots as much as the straight guys do.

he had 10 inches of cock up his ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Donovan

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

no such thing as gay for pay. only gay...

exactly.

[Marcus Aurelius]

As long as balls don't touch its all good.

[JustDaveXxx]

Gay doesn't bother me, but there is no price for my man-hood!!!


I will rob banks and liquor stores before i take it up the ass for money!! I have no price!!!


Do i think gay is wrong? nope, its just not for me. I also dont eat broccoli and nobody is going to make me eat it!

[Machete_]

Peter North is homosexual, so who is it a surprise he did gay porn?

[marketsmart]

Peter North / Matt Ramsey... The early years...

It's a FAGALICIOUS......

[MaDalton]

i think nearly all male actors i know have been doing gay or bi stuff. actually i consider DP already borderline gay - i personally don't want to rub my dick on some other guys dick. but i have no problem filming or watching it - just doesn't do anything to me

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i think nearly all male actors i know have been doing gay or bi stuff.

see this is the thing, and I know you are as desensitized as I am when it comes to standing around naked people, even guys with hardons wavin in the wind... however, I think most people, even webmasters, are not aware the length at which many guys do gay scenes and dont tell people...

the reason they arent aware is not just because they arent involved in the hiring or scheduling of models for porn shoots, its that they arent really *looking* for these same guys in the gay movies, which they use different names etc...

it has always kind of been hush hush, but as even you state, more and more guys in the industry do in fact, swing both ways for pay.

now whether or not its "gay" or not is irrelevant,... it occurs is the only fact.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

see this is the thing, and I know you are as desensitized as I am when it comes to standing around naked people, even guys with hardons wavin in the wind... however, I think most people, even webmasters, are not aware the length at which many guys do gay scenes and dont tell people...

the reason they arent aware is not just because they arent involved in the hiring or scheduling of models for porn shoots, its that they arent really *looking* for these same guys in the gay movies, which they use different names etc...

it has always kind of been hush hush, but as even you state, more and more guys in the industry do in fact, swing both ways for pay.

now whether or not its "gay" or not is irrelevant,... it occurs is the only fact.

we have one guy who always said he would never consider doing gay and was badmouthing other actors who did. said it's disgusting and so on...

one day at the Venus fair in Berlin I stand around, talking to someone, when i see some bi orgy on a TV running right behind the person i was talking to. and who do i see sucking cock? exactly.

what i dont understand is that those guys really think it will never come out - it always does one day.

[After Shock Media]

If I am OK with mainstream actors making out (which I see as more intimate than fucking) with other guys on film, even rubbing them down and generally acting gay - only to get paid and hopefully some rewards. It should just be considered a facet of the job.

[BlackCrayon]

I don't see how they can do it. Are they really just gay? Either way, I think its a health concern personally. I wonder if eventually someone would start up a site and "out" all those who do that so that girls know (if they care) exactly who they are working with. Even still, they could be banging guys off camera and no one would know. Its pretty scary even to think you could pick up some slut at a bar who earlier that day got fucked by 5 guys and who one or two of those guys were fucking other guys even earlier that day... and so on.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Its pretty scary even to think you could pick up some slut at a bar who earlier that day got fucked by 5 guys and who one or two of those guys were fucking other guys even earlier that day... and so on.

you dont have to fuck pornstars to get caught up in circles like that lol

[Robbie]

I don't think it matters one way or another. Sex is sex. And most times, people in the public domain (think of that preacher who railed against homosexuality for years...and then got caught with a male hooker doing crystal meth, and now admits he's bisexual) that are very homophobic are the ones who secretly crave gay sex.

I don't see anything wrong with it. I know my dog doesn't either. lol He'll mount up on a bitch and then he'll turn around and fuck the neighbors male dog up the ass just as fast. lol

Anyway, as far as the girls not liking it..I have to disagree. A lot of women have told me that they think gay sex is hot to watch. Dont' know why they do. Just had 'em tell me.

Sexuality is a lot more complicated than most people will admit. Hell, one of the greatest civilizations of all times was The Roman Empire. They not only saw no problem in a man fucking a women or a man whenever the mood struck him...they also kept a bevy of 12 year old boys for their sexual pleasure too.

Times change. Culture changes. What we're conditioned to believe growing up changes.

[marcjacob]

Originally Posted by Robbie

A lot of women have told me that they think gay sex is hot to watch. Dont' know why they do. Just had 'em tell me.

That makes sense, alot of straight men like watching lesbians so Im not surprised that it works both ways.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Robbie

lol

Anyway, as far as the girls not liking it..I have to disagree. A lot of women have told me that they think gay sex is hot to watch. Dont' know why they do. Just had 'em tell me.

huge difference between being turned on by watching something, and being paid to suck and fuck a cock you know just went up a guys ass.

I assure you, for many female performers the fantasy stuff goes out the window when you start talking about paid to fuck on camera for a few hours... this is the reason its hush hush...

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Gay doesn't bother me, but there is no price for my man-hood!!!


I will rob banks and liquor stores before i take it up the ass for money!! I have no price!!!


Do i think gay is wrong? nope, its just not for me. I also dont eat broccoli and nobody is going to make me eat it!

Man, you really need to have a more open mind. Broccoli rocks...

[potter]

Any of these girls who are grossed out, or feel unsafe. Literally need to find a new business. Same goes with anyone in the industry.

It's all sex for money. End of story.

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

no such thing as gay for pay. only gay...

You couldn't be more wrong.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

you dont have to fuck pornstars to get caught up in circles like that lol

I don't really think there are that many girls out there doing gangbangs in their personal life though I'm sure there is a decent amount of girls who fuck "bi" guys and the % of pornstars compared to the general public is very small, so who knows.

[gleem]

DP is bi - you are basically stroking eachother off with your cocks through a thin peice of skin that seperates ass and pussy. Stick your finger in your chicks as next time you are fucking her doggie style and you'll see.

you fuck or suck a dude you are gay... I think that's the qualifier no? So a dude that does a gay video and then does straight is technically a gay guy doing straight porn?

to each their own.

[TheSenator]

Criss Strokes is not gay.

[TheSenator]

Criss Strokes is not gay...he just has a big dick.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Criss Strokes is not gay.

Jake's content cant be beat when it comes to sexy aged man toying with young studs.

hot, i push his site

http://www.fletchxxx.com/gay.html

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I don't really think there are that many girls out there doing gangbangs in their personal life though .

You've obviously never been to a swingers club with hundreds of people there. Or a lifestyles convention. All types of "normal" people there. Again, sexuality is a little more complicated than a lot of people want to realize. Here in the U.S. we are so damn uptight about sexuality and nudity that it's not even funny. And conversely, we are the biggest consumers of pornography. lol

Same thing with drugs.

Same thing with prostitution.

[Fletch XXX]

the other thing most dont talk about is the guys make more doing gay lol

compare rates of straight guys getting blowjob scene vs straight guy getting sucked for gay flick and come back to the thread ;)

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You've obviously never been to a swingers club with hundreds of people there. Or a lifestyles convention. All types of "normal" people there. Again, sexuality is a little more complicated than a lot of people want to realize. Here in the U.S. we are so damn uptight about sexuality and nudity that it's not even funny. And conversely, we are the biggest consumers of pornography. lol

Same thing with drugs.

Same thing with prostitution.

Yeah what kind of % of the general public are swingers. And I didn't realize gangbangs were common with swingers, I thought they mostly just swapped partners. Either way, seems everyone fucks everyone else these days without much regard to themselves or others.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Criss Strokes is not gay.

The look on the guy's face is priceless...

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

all the same to me, after 10 years, cock is the new pussy

[potter]

Originally Posted by gleem

DP is bi - you are basically stroking eachother off with your cocks through a thin peice of skin that seperates ass and pussy. Stick your finger in your chicks as next time you are fucking her doggie style and you'll see.

you fuck or suck a dude you are gay... I think that's the qualifier no? So a dude that does a gay video and then does straight is technically a gay guy doing straight porn?

to each their own.

Well ok, to explain it in a bit more detail.

DP on one orifice. This could be defined as bi-sexual sex. It does not define the people as bi-sexual though.

Just as two straight girls kissing in a bar. Could be defined as homosexual kissing, however it does not define the two girls as homosexuals.

A straight guy being fucked by a gay guy in a porn. Could be defined as homosexual sex. It doesn't define the straight guy as being a homosexual though.

.. Now if in any situation. The girls, the guy in gay sex. Are doing it for the reason of sexual enjoyment or arousal. Then it could define the people as homosexuals. Being gay means you act in homosexual acts because you enjoy them, and it turns you on.

Doing it for money, or for heterosexual attention in a bar does not define it as gay.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Yeah what kind of % of the general public are swingers. And I didn't realize gangbangs were common with swingers, I thought they mostly just swapped partners. Either way, seems everyone fucks everyone else these days without much regard to themselves or others.

At swingers parties a lot of people do enjoy being a voyeur and many women enjoy being and exhibitionist. So there are "orgy rooms"

And I'm not sure what you mean by : "Either way, seems everyone fucks everyone else these days without much regard to themselves or others"

Why does a person having a good time sexually suddenly seem in your eyes to have not have "regard to themselves or others"

Maybe I'm missing something here...but sex is natural And it's good for you too.

And no, I'm not talking about std's. I'm talking about sex between healthy people. Just like the sex that takes place between adult performers who are tested. Or the sex that takes place at swingers clubs with married couples who all are good friends and don't cheat on their spouses outside of their circle of married friends.

Don't be a prude man! you only live once! Have some fun.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Robbie

...but sex is natural

Any port in a storm.

[TheSenator]

Is this gay?

[Fletch XXX]

that taped up box should not be in content!

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Robbie

At swingers parties a lot of people do enjoy being a voyeur and many women enjoy being and exhibitionist. So there are "orgy rooms"

And I'm not sure what you mean by : "Either way, seems everyone fucks everyone else these days without much regard to themselves or others"

Why does a person having a good time sexually suddenly seem in your eyes to have not have "regard to themselves or others"

Maybe I'm missing something here...but sex is natural And it's good for you too.

And no, I'm not talking about std's. I'm talking about sex between healthy people. Just like the sex that takes place between adult performers who are tested. Or the sex that takes place at swingers clubs with married couples who all are good friends and don't cheat on their spouses outside of their circle of married friends.

Don't be a prude man! you only live once! Have some fun.

Right, I forgot how ultra responsible swingers are....I also forgot you had to be good friends with everyone in a swingers club to go to one...

[JustDaveXxx]

Ouch!! this thread is getting way too graphic.lol


I here about guys talking about other guys doing gay on my strait sets, but i need proof before i stop using a guy.

I generally dont use guys that are actively going back and forth from gay to strait and gay again.

List who is going back and fourth, with proof...

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Right, I forgot how ultra responsible swingers are....I also forgot you had to be good friends with everyone in a swingers club to go to one...

I could care less about "responsible" lol I'm talking about fun and sexuality. Damn man, don't sound so hung up. You'd think people in the adult industry would be a little less prudish and a bit more uninhibited.

I fucked more whores when I was in bands than swingers will ever see. From 1978 to 1998 I traveled the world. Fucked different bitches every night and NEVER wore a condom. Never caught anything. And just got a full panel test done and came up....CLEAN! I feel sorry for all of you who have let govt. propaganda and skewed statistics that always include high risk people (IV drug users, haitian immigrants, etc.) scare you so bad that you've never enjoyed the sweet feeling of LOTS of strange pussy.

[Fletch XXX]

This thread is not an "outing" type of thread. I worked in a studio that kept this stuff hush and understand how it can ruin a performers ability to get work. As long as the PCRDNA tests are current, performers should be allowed to perform with whomever they choose. Its not our place to say what they can and cannot do.

I am not looking to make attacks on the talent in our industry

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I could care less about "responsible" lol I'm talking about fun and sexuality. Damn man, don't sound so hung up. You'd think people in the adult industry would be a little less prudish and a bit more uninhibited.

I fucked more whores when I was in bands than swingers will ever see. From 1978 to 1998 I traveled the world. Fucked different bitches every night and NEVER wore a condom. Never caught anything. And just got a full panel test done and came up....CLEAN! I feel sorry for all of you who have let govt. propaganda and skewed statistics that always include high risk people (IV drug users, haitian immigrants, etc.) scare you so bad that you've never enjoyed the sweet feeling of LOTS of strange pussy.

I don't let government propaganda tell me anything. I've seen plenty of bad things first hand. I knew a 15 year old that got herpes her first time. Shit happens sometimes and you never know when. Not to say that should stop people but if you think you are invincible you are kidding yourself because thats what you want to hear.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I don't let government propaganda tell me anything. I've seen plenty of bad things first hand. I knew a 15 year old that got herpes her first time. Shit happens sometimes and you never know when. Not to say that should stop people but if you think you are invincible you are kidding yourself because thats what you want to hear.

No I don't think that at all. Of course bad things CAN happen. But bro, you have a much, much better chance of getting in your car and dying today. That's all I'm saying. We have two generations of people who have grown up with AIDS and the war on drugs. A lot of them believe that if they fuck without a condom or smoke a joint they are gonna die. It just ain't true. It CAN happen. But we don't live our lives in fear do we? I'm gonna drive my car down the street, knowing full well that statistically it's like playing russian roulette. I'm gonna drink when I want to, I'm gonna party when I feel like it, and I'm gonna plow some hot whore's pussy and asshole bareback every chance I get. The only thing that scares me about the sex is that I'm getting older and I may have to start paying for it because I'm getting too ugly.

[todhunter]

A few years ago I was judging the GayVN awards, I was on staff at AVN and I had been amused by gay video titles for years so I asked to judge Sex Comedy because I can't tell you if a gay scene is hot or not but I can sure as hell tell you if the jokes are funny.

I saw this one sex act where the two guys are lying on their backs and they bring their cocks together -- scissoring their legs so they're balls-to-balls -- and each guy reaches out with his right hand and they both jack off both cocks at the same time. I was fascinated by this foreign sex technique when I suddenly realized...

IT'S A D.P. WITH NO CHICK!

--t

[marketsmart]

its very refreshing to see all you closet homos coming out...

[Screwed Up]

Seriously though, to be able to get a hardon doing gay for pay you almost definitely need to be bi. Viagra only works so far...

Originally Posted by MDCQ

As long as balls don't touch its all good.

ROFL