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BVF · 02-21-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PantieZ

I was using epassporte since 2003 - without any problems.
now they need some docs to verify my account, what a joke.

they want :
* Any formal, government issued proof of address (not including ID). This can usually be obtained at your local post office, or other local government agency.
* A bank-statement
* A utility-bill (phone, electricity, water, gas, etc...)

* Government Issued Photo ID

Whats next ? Fingerprints ? Color of my wifes undies ? My DNA ?

So i decided not sending the required docs, and say goodbye.

Anyone else ?

If you open up an offshore account in Belize, they require a letter of recommendation from your home bank....

John-ACWM · 02-21-2009, 09:48 AM

They didn't pop the question yet

PantieZ · 02-21-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by paymeback

So you trusted them enough to have (im guessing) thousands of dollars of affiliate programs payments that you earnt paid into your account for over 5 years but you're worried about sending them "private docs" only to prove your identity?

you guess wrong, i never used them to payout my affiliates.
I would never wire thousands of dollars to a offshore company.
I learned my lesson with GloBill - they were located in St.Kitten.
I also always took care that my account is almost empty.

PantieZ · 02-21-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's a Visa policy called "know your customer". A copy of your ID and a untility bill isn't very private, stop whining already.

ok if a bank statement is not private, go ahead and post yours here ?!

Slappin Fish · 02-21-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

It's a Visa policy called "know your customer". A copy of your ID and a untility bill isn't very private, stop whining already.

Exactly. A doorman can ask for an ID, a hotel receptionist, a cashier, a waitress.... not very private.

Slappin Fish · 02-21-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PantieZ

ok if a bank statement is not private, go ahead and post yours here ?!

Bank statement or utility bill, blank out the account number or send a utility bill, where is the problem?

Unless you've been lying, then it proves they were right to ask

PantieZ · 02-21-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Bank statement or utility bill, blank out the account number or send a utility bill, where is the problem?

Unless you've been lying, then it proves they were right to ask

1. read
2. think
3. understand
4. post

Slappin Fish · 02-21-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PantieZ

1. read
2. think
3. understand
4. post

Couldn't argue against the fact you are just a whining little bitch so you came up with that.

You don't want to give the docs, it is too much for your whining ass, then don't. Good luck cashing in your checks

PantieZ · 02-21-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Couldn't argue against the fact you are just a whining little bitch so you came up with that.

You don't want to give the docs, it is too much for your whining ass, then don't. Good luck cashing in your checks

thx for enlighten me, seems you are always right. thank you !

Furious_Male · 02-21-2009, 10:29 AM

My only issue with epassporte is I think they should start asking new account holders for this information. I know it can be a pain for some people to get all the requested info together but with the number of new fraud accounts I see on a weekly basis it could go a long way in slowing the fraudsters down.

Its interesting that a 5 year epassporte member has to put all this together but some dirt bags in Vietnam can create countless accounts weekly and use them while trying to defraud affiliate programs.

dial · 02-21-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

It was a huge pain in the ass for me, I haven't gotten a utility bill in years, and don't have anything with my name on it... Took a few days for me to come up with some paperwork that epass would accept, but they did and I haven't had a problem since.

can I ask what you came up with?

I have no issue with a passport, but I don't have ANYTHING with my name on it...no bank account, no utilities, etc

LadyMischief · 02-21-2009, 10:31 AM

So glad I don't deal with Epassporte anymore. Had NOTHING but crap from them for years, constantly getting billed for new cards when I had a new one, stupid stuff.

directfiesta · 02-21-2009, 10:32 AM

What is the problem ?

They asked the same of me last week. Took 3 minutes to upload, 2 days for them to review and it is done.

Bi big shit ...

NOTR · 02-21-2009, 10:38 AM

Send them a copy of your utility bill simple as that.

This isn't something epass wants to do, it's Visa regulations. In order for epass to use the Visa network they need to abide by Visa rules.

NYRangers · 02-21-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

For everyone who says "whats the big deal" or "just like a bank "

I should remind you epassporte is not a bank , you get no interest , your money is not insured and you would never have opened an account without i.d. so thus the bank would never "seize" your money.

I should also remind you , you have no idea where your id is stored , what countries nationals have access to your id, what safeguards are in place to protect your id etc etc.

Epassporte has everything needed to thieve your identity.

Remember 9/11 , all those terrorists had fake identities they stole from someone , likely by hacking or having a plant in an org just like this.

In the usa you have a reasonable expectation that when you show your id at the bank , it is an american checking the i.d. and you have legal options if they dont honour your privacy, all this goes out the window when you willingly give your id to someone who may or may not be american , who may or may not be bound by privacy laws, who may or may not be linked to a terrorist organization.

this has to be sarcastic and I'm still to drunk to catch it right?

"a reasonable expectation that it's an American checking the id"

Christ, this cracks me up. Even if it was true what does that matter? I love when people bitch about a company that makes their life so much easier suddenly seems shady to them. You knew what you were getting involved with, don't be surprised when "issues" arise.

Adam X · 02-21-2009, 10:42 AM

a necessary "evil" that will help keep your money safe..

baddog · 02-21-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PantieZ

Anyone else ?

I did the same.

u-Bob · 02-21-2009, 10:44 AM

baddog · 02-21-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Once your account reaches a certain amount ($5000), they require the authentification.
Nothing wrong with that. They will not ask you again once you send in the docs.

I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

Barefootsies · 02-21-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ

So i decided not sending the required docs, and say goodbye.

Anyone else ?

Nope.

When this situation comes up, I provide docs. I have nothing to hide, and play by the rules.

u-Bob · 02-21-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

It's $5k in your account or x amount of $ going through your account.

doridori · 02-21-2009, 11:04 AM

yea....they are going too far.

Barefootsies · 02-21-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

It's $5k in your account or x amount of $ going through your account.

Either way, they have to be able to answer to Homeland Security (if U.S. based). The banking laws have changed.

shunga · 02-21-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

Its interesting that a 5 year epassporte member has to put all this together but some dirt bags in Vietnam can create countless accounts weekly and use them while trying to defraud affiliate programs.

QFT.

But overall, welcome to the modern world. No one cares for it all that much, but it's how things are done.

Blazed · 02-21-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

when was the last time a bank asked you for a bank statement
with all their problems i would be afraid that money would suddenly disappear from a real account if i gave them my bank statement (with all my account info on it)

You dont need to show them a full bank statement just the part with your name and address on it.

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

You dont need it at once, its the same thing paypal do although i think paypal do it once you have had $3k go through your account i cant remember.

OP who are you going to use to transfer money now? There really is no other good service apart from epass and paypal and you cant use either.

marketsmart · 02-21-2009, 12:24 PM

chris is busy making "boutique movies" now.. he doesnt give a fuck about you or your account... so move on.... move on....

seriously.... move on....

Va2k · 02-21-2009, 12:33 PM

I don't understand why anyone that is legit wouldn't do this? I can understand scammers and the likes freaking out but honest people ?

papill0n · 02-21-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

For everyone who says "whats the big deal" or "just like a bank "

I should remind you epassporte is not a bank , you get no interest , your money is not insured and you would never have opened an account without i.d. so thus the bank would never "seize" your money.

I should also remind you , you have no idea where your id is stored , what countries nationals have access to your id, what safeguards are in place to protect your id etc etc.

Epassporte has everything needed to thieve your identity.

Remember 9/11 , all those terrorists had fake identities they stole from someone , likely by hacking or having a plant in an org just like this.

In the usa you have a reasonable expectation that when you show your id at the bank , it is an american checking the i.d. and you have legal options if they dont honour your privacy, all this goes out the window when you willingly give your id to someone who may or may not be american , who may or may not be bound by privacy laws, who may or may not be linked to a terrorist organization.

wow you got to be kidding me

I knew the terrorists would be behind this too.

brassmonkey · 02-21-2009, 12:36 PM

man i push alot of doe through there per month their solid

starpimps · 02-21-2009, 12:39 PM

funny when i first opened my account to fund party poker back in the day. I remember sending my docs in and now they are requesting it again

ugh

02-21-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantieZ

I was using epassporte since 2003 - without any problems.
now they need some docs to verify my account, what a joke.

they want :
* Any formal, government issued proof of address (not including ID). This can usually be obtained at your local post office, or other local government agency.
* A bank-statement
* A utility-bill (phone, electricity, water, gas, etc...)

* Government Issued Photo ID

Whats next ? Fingerprints ? Color of my wifes undies ? My DNA ?

So i decided not sending the required docs, and say goodbye.

Anyone else ?

I don't mind it, I mean, they are just complying with VISA's rules and regulations. But oh well, fuck VISA right?

Dollarmansteve · 02-21-2009, 12:56 PM

oh noes, now epass can't be used:

a) by criminals to launder proceeds-from-crime
b) by individuals looking to evade taxes
c) by individuals engaged in various forms of credit card and bank fraud

The only reason a person would not want to provide identification to Epassporte is because they are engaged in illegal activity, period. There is no other reason.

Yngwie · 02-21-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Once your account reaches a certain amount ($5000), they require the authentification.
Nothing wrong with that. They will not ask you again once you send in the docs.

they will if you change your address. I had to do it 2 times in the span of 6 months, but it was not a problem.

Yngwie · 02-21-2009, 01:06 PM

of course, my account is now a Select Account

Barefootsies · 02-21-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fungus

I don't understand why anyone that is legit wouldn't do this? I can understand scammers and the likes freaking out but honest people ?

crockett · 02-21-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Everybody needs to send the docs when the balance exceeds $5000.

That's not true.. I never keep much in my epass, I withdraw it soon as I can get it out. I've also had well over 5k in payments sent to me but maybe only a total of 8k over the life of my account sent out.

I also just got a verification notice for my account, so it doesn't seem like it's any certain limit or I would have had to do this when they first started wanting verification. Seems kinda random IMO..

polish_aristocrat · 02-21-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

of course, my account is now a Select Account

I upgraded my account to "select" just one month ago, after around 4.5 years using it... and they still want the docs now

makes no real sense

Yngwie · 02-21-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never left a balance of more than a few hundred dollars. They asked me, so apparently you are incorrect.

what he meant is that after your account has reached a total of $5000 with all the transactions and shit. It didn't have anything to do with having $5000 in your account at one time. My account go hit with the document thing and I know that my epass account has had way over $5000 in total transactions.

Emma · 02-21-2009, 01:13 PM

I like epassporte

SmokeyTheBear · 02-21-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

this has to be sarcastic and I'm still to drunk to catch it right?

"a reasonable expectation that it's an American checking the id"

yes when you go to a bank in america and open an account there is a reasonable expectation the person checking your id is american.

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

Christ, this cracks me up. Even if it was true what does that matter?

what does it matter if a citizen of another country has everything they need to steal your identity and it may be perfectly legal for them in their country to do this ?

hmm umm plenty of things wrong with this.

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

I love when people bitch about a company that makes their life so much easier suddenly seems shady to them.

huh ? i love epassporte , great service and a reasonable request they are asking

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Originally Posted by NYRangers

You knew what you were getting involved with, don't be surprised when "issues" arise.

huh ? so any company you do biz with if they suddenly start selling your info its ok because you started with them ?

if they already had your info they wouldnt be asking for it again.. when i signed up they made no mention of me submitting to them my i.d. and utility bill. are you saying its unfair to know what their privacy policy is and how they deal with your personal information ?

Yngwie · 02-21-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I upgraded my account to "select" just one month ago, after around 4.5 years using it... and they still want the docs now

makes no real sense

the same happened to me so I just resent the exact same docs I did the first time and all went well.

crockett · 02-21-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Nope.

When this situation comes up, I provide docs. I have nothing to hide, and play by the rules.

It's not so much providing the docs for me, but rather is my info safe? Epass doesn't seem to be a "top notch" operation, I mean lets not kid our selves here..

They are set up in a third world country for a reason.. If some disgruntled employee decided to leave with lots of people's ID's what do you think would happen?

polish_aristocrat · 02-21-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

the same happened to me so I just resent the exact same docs I did the first time and all went well.

well that makes you wonder what happened to the docs the first time...

edit: or did they ask you for the docs again, because you changed your adress on file?

polish_aristocrat · 02-21-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

They are set up in a third world country for a reason.. If some disgruntled employee decided to leave with lots of people's ID's what do you think would happen?

actually you're never safe

remember how an-exmployee from some Lichtenstein bank sold their customers info to the German IRS one year ago...

SmokeyTheBear · 02-21-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

wow you got to be kidding me

I knew the terrorists would be behind this too.

huh ? i said the 9/11 terrorists used fake id's and they did. They stole someones identity , most likely they stole it from someone who wasn't carefull about who has their identity.

Barefootsies · 02-21-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It's not so much providing the docs for me, but rather is my info safe? Epass doesn't seem to be a "top notch" operation, I mean lets not kid our selves here..

They are set up in a third world country for a reason.. If some disgruntled employee decided to leave with lots of people's ID's what do you think would happen?

I feel you BRO.

I have had to fax in W2 docs to Traffic Cash Gold, I.D.'s and business docs to processors, hosting companies, PayPal, credit card companies to get business credit, and others over the year(s).

I guess what I am saying is, I am just used to it by now. Plus I pay fore two credit monitoring services through credit bureaus. So I simply do not worry as much about it.

polish_aristocrat · 02-21-2009, 01:19 PM

people with GFY postcount > 40k should be excluded from sending docs

Yngwie · 02-21-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

well that makes you wonder what happened to the docs the first time...

edit: or did they ask you for the docs again, because you changed your adress on file?

I changed my address so I assumed that this is why they asked for the docs again.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-21-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

well that makes you wonder what happened to the docs the first time...

edit: or did they ask you for the docs again, because you changed your adress on file?

no they asked for my id twice 2, the first time i sent it in like half dozen times before the account was unfrozen , the first time i asked specifically if this was the only time i would be required to do this, i was assured it was. I never changed my address.

SmokeyTheBear · 02-21-2009, 01:30 PM

it was about 2 years later.

02-21-2009, 09:48 AM	#52
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02-21-2009, 10:29 AM	#60
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	My only issue with epassporte is I think they should start asking new account holders for this information. I know it can be a pain for some people to get all the requested info together but with the number of new fraud accounts I see on a weekly basis it could go a long way in slowing the fraudsters down. Its interesting that a 5 year epassporte member has to put all this together but some dirt bags in Vietnam can create countless accounts weekly and use them while trying to defraud affiliate programs. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

02-21-2009, 10:31 AM	#62
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	So glad I don't deal with Epassporte anymore. Had NOTHING but crap from them for years, constantly getting billed for new cards when I had a new one, stupid stuff. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

02-21-2009, 10:32 AM	#63
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,586	What is the problem ? They asked the same of me last week. Took 3 minutes to upload, 2 days for them to review and it is done. Bi big shit ... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

02-21-2009, 10:42 AM	#66
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02-21-2009, 10:38 AM	#64
NOTR Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 380	Send them a copy of your utility bill simple as that. This isn't something epass wants to do, it's Visa regulations. In order for epass to use the Visa network they need to abide by Visa rules.

02-21-2009, 10:44 AM	#68
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063

02-21-2009, 11:04 AM	#72
doridori So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canadia Posts: 2,222	yea....they are going too far.

02-21-2009, 12:24 PM	#76
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	chris is busy making "boutique movies" now.. he doesnt give a fuck about you or your account... so move on.... move on.... seriously.... move on....

02-21-2009, 12:33 PM	#77
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	I don't understand why anyone that is legit wouldn't do this? I can understand scammers and the likes freaking out but honest people ? __________________

02-21-2009, 12:36 PM	#79
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02-21-2009, 12:39 PM	#80
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	funny when i first opened my account to fund party poker back in the day. I remember sending my docs in and now they are requesting it again ugh

02-21-2009, 12:56 PM	#82
Dollarmansteve Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: T.O. Posts: 2,849	oh noes, now epass can't be used: a) by criminals to launder proceeds-from-crime b) by individuals looking to evade taxes c) by individuals engaged in various forms of credit card and bank fraud The only reason a person would not want to provide identification to Epassporte is because they are engaged in illegal activity, period. There is no other reason. __________________ I died.

02-21-2009, 01:06 PM	#84
Yngwie I am an Alien from space Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 11,118	of course, my account is now a Select Account

02-21-2009, 01:13 PM	#89
Emma Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,288	I like epassporte

02-21-2009, 01:19 PM	#97
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	people with GFY postcount > 40k should be excluded from sending docs __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

02-21-2009, 01:30 PM	#100
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