"America invented the automobile" - Obama - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Lee · 02-25-2009, 12:13 PM

I always thought it was Gottlieb Daimler

ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 12:16 PM

JP-pornshooter · 02-25-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

When did America perfect the automobile? GM? Ford?

I'll stick to my Mercedes.

I personally own a BMW motorcycle, a Ford SUV, a Toyota prius and a BMW car.

cant beat the BMW motorcycle.. or the Toyota Prius.
The Ford SUV is great for the price.. them BMW drives nice but otherwise is very expensive to maintain and often has mechanical issues.

but to get back to the jest of this.. i mean America perfected the automobile as a product to sell for the average citizen... end of story.
America has done this with many products, i would go as far as saying that America is number one in branding, merchandising and selling consumer goods...
America is just very good at making things exciting... i think it goes back to the American way of life..

ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 12:25 PM

TheSenator · 02-25-2009, 12:25 PM

This is an outrage! Republican are up in arms about who invented the automobile!

I think we have bigger issues to tackle.

I'll bookmark this thread when we have cleaned up the messed left Republican rule starting with Reagan.

mynameisjim · 02-25-2009, 12:27 PM

I caught that as well and it sounded bad.

You can spin it, but it was a mistake. The word "invented" has a specific meaning. America didn't invent the car. Any single qualifier like modern, or industry could have fixed it. Surprised they let that slide.

xmas13 · 02-25-2009, 12:33 PM

Gore invented the internet, or so he said...

ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 12:35 PM

McCain invented the blackberry .. but that's for another day.

Brujah · 02-25-2009, 12:41 PM

This is huge. This is important stuff. We can't let this slide!

ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

This is huge. This is important stuff. We can't let this slide!

What's it matter? This is an AI simulation.

Brujah · 02-25-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

What's it matter? This is an AI simulation.

That's true, but it's our simulation. It's the only simulation we've got.

Darkland · 02-25-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

That's true, but it's our simulation. It's the only simulation we've got.

Rochard · 02-25-2009, 12:59 PM

Clearly the automobile wasn't invented in the US. That's obvious.

What I think Obama meant was we created the automobile industry. Americans took took to cars like bees to honey.

Lykos · 02-25-2009, 01:01 PM

Karl (Carl) Benz.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/auto.html

bloggingseo · 02-25-2009, 01:03 PM

Who really gives a shit

dyna mo · 02-25-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

That's true, but it's our simulation. It's the only simulation we've got.

so is this about the simulous package?

ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so is this about the simulous package?

good one

sperbonzo · 02-25-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

at least we gave up on starting new ones after 1945

My good friend, I hate to be picky with you but aren't you missing out on East Germany invading Checkoslovakia in 1968, the invasion of Serbia in 1999 and the German troops in Afghanistan right now???

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ADL Colin · 02-25-2009, 01:20 PM

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the invasion of Serbia in 1999

For real? I thought that was a futball match.

JesseD · 02-25-2009, 02:25 PM

I thought Alexander Popov was a swimmer

MaDalton · 02-25-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

My good friend, I hate to be picky with you but aren't you missing out on East Germany invading Checkoslovakia in 1968, the invasion of Serbia in 1999 and the German troops in Afghanistan right now???

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ha.

1968: the russians made them do it - and i don't count eastern germany as sovereign country anyways.

besides that it's a black day in history, i wonder what would have happened if the czech revolution would have succeeded

and the other two were definitely not started by Germany, the NATO made us participate. and only after huge discussions because german constitution does not allow military operations outside NATO territory and only for self defense. please note that we get bashed all the time because we try to stay out of the dangerous places.

i know we have not the greatest history regarding that, but thats why since 1949 (western) german laws are so extremely strict about participating in military conflicts.

and yes, we invented what we call nowadays "cars"

SCORE Ralph · 02-25-2009, 04:14 PM

Hmmm all this going back and forth about who invented what, no one bothered to look at the statement.

The paragraph begins with "As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink."

He was referring to the automobile industry, not who invented the very first steam/gas engine that didnt succeed in making it what it is today: An industry.

dyna mo · 02-25-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aspwm

Hmmm all this going back and forth about who invented what, no one bothered to look at the statement.

ADL Colin · 02-26-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by aspwm

Hmmm all this going back and forth about who invented what, no one bothered to look at the statement.

The paragraph begins with "As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink."

He was referring to the automobile industry, not who invented the very first steam/gas engine that didn't succeed in making it what it is today: An industry.

No, Obama's theme was that the US can improve in the production of things that it had originally invented. Right before he was discussing the auto industry he was discussing the production of solar technology and stated that the US "invented solar technology".

His full quote was "We know the country that harnesses the power of clean, renewable energy will lead the 21st century. And yet, it is China that has launched the largest effort in history to make their economy energy efficient. We invented solar technology, but we've fallen behind countries like Germany and Japan in producing it. New plug-in hybrids roll off our assembly lines, but they will run on batteries made in Korea."

So yes, one can discuss both the production of and invention of a technology all in one paragraph. That is exactly what Obama was doing.

And the full quote on the auto industry was:

"As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink. We should not, and will not, protect them from their own bad practices. But we are committed to the goal of a re-tooled, re-imagined auto industry that can compete and win. Millions of jobs depend on it. Scores of communities depend on it. And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it.

In both cases he is stating that the US invented a technology but needs to improve in its production.

I never said Obama was wrong. I said "There are multiple answers to who invented the automobile" and pointed out that different people have different answers for who invented a wide number of technologies such as the automobile, radio and television. just witness the many different answers in this thread. All of those are fascinating topics in my opinion. I would bet most Americans think Ford invented the automobile where as our only Library of Congress thinks the best answer is Karl Benz.

Brujah · 02-26-2009, 08:41 AM

You can see the Great Wall of China from outer space. Christopher Columbus was the first to discover America. The US wins the war of 1812.

Iron Fist · 02-26-2009, 08:44 AM

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And the WWW? Would you go with Tim Berners-Lee or Al Gore?!

AL Gore for the win. He has much better Powerpoint slideshows.

Tanker · 02-26-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

They could assemble a model t in something like an hour and half.

I have had a model T sitting in my grandfathers garage in pieces for 20 years how the hell did they do it in and hour and a half LOL

ADL Colin · 02-26-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanker

I have had a model T sitting in my grandfathers garage in pieces for 20 years how the hell did they do it in and hour and a half LOL

$5/day!!!

ADL Colin · 02-26-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

You can see the Great Wall of China from outer space. Christopher Columbus was the first to discover America. The US wins the war of 1812.

Good ones. What would be "outer space"? I think you can see the Wall from the shuttle.

uno · 02-27-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin

I myself find the history of technology to be fascinating. You're free not to participate.

There are multiple answers to who invented the automobile and it is interesting to see what people think about it. I would think most Americans would say Ford and most Europeans would say Benz.

Same with the history of the radio which has such interesting answers as Marconi, Tesla and Alexander Popov. Most know Marconi, some know Tesla, hardly anyone knows Popov outside of Eastern Europe. All legitimate answers in my opinion.

And how about TV? Is it Farnsworth or Zworykin?

And the WWW? Would you go with Tim Berners-Lee or Al Gore?!

I thought the french invented the automobile but the first model didn't have steering.

uno · 02-27-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scuba steve

pretty sure if bush had said this, no one would be defending him and everyone would be adding it to his resume of idiocies

doesn't mean i like bush either, i'm just saying...

Thats nowhere even in the same ballpark as a bush fuck up.

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