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Old 03-03-2009, 01:28 PM   #51
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Old 03-03-2009, 01:30 PM   #52
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just to be clear , I am the OG Head Br0 if people say otherwise they are wrong.

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Old 03-03-2009, 01:33 PM   #53
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just to be clear , I am the OG Head Br0 if people say otherwise they are wrong.

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How do you become a Bro? You gotta get "jumped in" and pull a drive-by? I'm down!
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I think if sextube.com was trademark way before hand and hardsextube.com just started, then you can go on what with you are doing... but hardsextube.com is so far in the game that you just have to let it go.
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Fuck...I guess this one is gonna go a hundred pages too. Nice marketing Shap Most guys would have to post up a shitload of naked bitches and/or a contest thread. I bow to your skills...
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Who will the Bros side with in Shap vs WEG?
sextube (Shap) vs blacksextube.com / analsextube.com / asiansextube.com / latinsextube.com / (WEG)
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Shap please get it touch with me asap! i need the "Bro Law" book where you found rule 4.3... apparently those fucks didn't send me my copy
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:09 PM   #59
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Shap is not a good guy. You keep thinking that though. These are lies, to placate you and make you think he's a "good guy." You'll discover the truth to this situation when it comes out, and I bet it's got selective enforcement written all over it.

There's nothing good about trademarking a generic domain, and then start using it as a weapon to take other generic keyword domains. If you own any generic domains, you'll see what it's like when someone tries to steal yours.
Your jealousy of this guy is making you look a bigger cock than you normally are.
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12 pages this time?

People will stop posting when you stop trying to steal generic domains. You don't lose shit letting these sextube sites operate except some SE traffic, but thats cause they are looking for "Sex Tube Sites - ie, porn videos in tube format" not sextube.com
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People will stop posting when you stop trying to steal generic domains. You don't lose shit letting these sextube sites operate except some SE traffic, but thats cause they are looking for "Sex Tube Sites - ie, porn videos in tube format" not sextube.com
I believe that his domain's traffic is actually growing in part because of sites like Hdkillers, Chokers, and WEG's. Now he wants to take them. Personally, I don't think he'll end up with them.
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Let the tm issue go, this is not a precedent we need set in this industry with generic[ish] domains.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:18 PM   #65
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You know what I've noticed? It's all the gallery makers that have a hard on for me. Why is that? I don't see program owners hating me. I don't see any of my active affiliates hating me. In fact those guys are icqing me laughing telling me when will I learn to step away from GFY. Why is it that gallery makers hate me so much?
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:22 PM   #66
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Yea no fucking shit Shap, we use generic domains to SEO because surfers search for generic terms like sex tube, porn tube, free porn, etc.

Paysites usually go for a branded domain.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:26 PM   #67
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Yea no fucking shit Shap, we use generic domains to SEO because surfers search for generic terms like sex tube, porn tube, free porn, etc.

Paysites usually go for a branded domain.
Anyone got any kind of reports on the frequency of such terms around the time this domain was registed in 2006?

I keep seeing people say "generic terms" etc.. but how often were they used 3 years ago compared to now?

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You know what I've noticed? It's all the gallery makers that have a hard on for me. Why is that? I don't see program owners hating me. I don't see any of my active affiliates hating me. In fact those guys are icqing me laughing telling me when will I learn to step away from GFY. Why is it that gallery makers hate me so much?
I'm not a gallery maker, so don't forget us generic domain owners who stand to lose. There were a few of us in the thread trying to defend that angle. Not affiliates. Not program owners. Domain owners.

Are you going after Choker's tube sites? How does he feel about that?
Are you going after WEGs tube sites? How do they feel about that?

You said a lot of damaging things in the other thread. You, and mphalca(?) said all these domains with "SexTube" belong to you and they are infringing on your rights.
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You know what I've noticed? It's all the gallery makers that have a hard on for me. Why is that? I don't see program owners hating me. I don't see any of my active affiliates hating me. In fact those guys are icqing me laughing telling me when will I learn to step away from GFY. Why is it that gallery makers hate me so much?
I'm pretty sure BV disagreed with what you're doing. Maybe I'm wrong there's a shitload of post in that other thread. ;)

But most of them aren't going to start trouble with other program owners, it's just not a good idea business wise. Even if it was just a "I disagree" with what you're doing.

Affiliates aren't going to say anything either, well most won't. You pay them money... Why the hell would they be like F U maaaaaan? Aint happening.
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Anyone got any kind of reports on the frequency of such terms around the time this domain was registed in 2006?

I keep seeing people say "generic terms" etc.. but how often were they used 3 years ago compared to now?

The domain was registered in 2004. When we started using it the frequency was very low. Searches were low and type ins were low.
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Yes. I posted google trends earlier. The term tube wasn't that popular until youtube came along and then tube site became synonymous with video site

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+t...Csextube. com

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I'm not a gallery maker, so don't forget us generic domain owners who stand to lose. There were a few of us in the thread trying to defend that angle. Not affiliates. Not program owners. Domain owners.

Are you going after Choker's tube sites? How does he feel about that?
Are you going after WEGs tube sites? How do they feel about that?

You said a lot of damaging things in the other thread. You, and mphalca(?) said all these domains with "SexTube" belong to you and they are infringing on your rights.
True you aren't a gallery maker.

I've said more than I should have about our TM. We intend on protecting our trademark. That's all I'll say about it. I'm not interested in stealing anyone's traffic or destroying their hard work. I'm only interested in protecting our trademark.
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The domain was registered in 2004. When we started using it the frequency was very low. Searches were low and type ins were low.
and then .. YouTube blew up. What do you suppose happened next? _____Tube.com domains became valuable, and searches started growing. UTube.com especially started getting hammered. Remember that? "Universal Tube said its Web site traffic jumped from 1,500 users per month to more than 2 million, paralyzing the site. "
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Yes. I posted google trends earlier. The term tube wasn't that popular until youtube came along and then tube site became synonymous with video site

I definitely will get the popcorn out for WEG versus Twistys when it comes to asiansextube.com, etc. If anything the term "sex tube" and all the sites associated with are HELPING your domain. But no, thats not enough, you have to get greedy and try to take them all.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+t...Csextube. com

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All due respect Shap, you deserve what you get from stuff like this.

You were the one who chose to be Mr Morally Superior and stir up shit and controversy for years over things that you considered unfair business practices.

Just because you've "seen the light" and have decided that surviving is more important than having a clean soap box to sit on doesn't make everything you said and did for the past 10 years go away.
You have become, in alot of ways, the very thing you used to bitch about in threads that went on for 10+ pages. You're the flag burning hippie who grew up to be a defense contractor.
You really shoudn't be surprised.


FWIW, I have no opinion about your actions either way, it's not my business, and you know I've always liked you. I'm just pointing out why when you do something it warrants 20 pages of outrage and when someone like hahaha does the same thing nobody notices.
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All due respect Shap, you deserve what you get from stuff like this.

You were the one who chose to be Mr Morally Superior and stir up shit and controversy for years over things that you considered unfair business practices.

Just because you've "seen the light" and have decided that surviving is more important than having a clean soap box to sit on doesn't make everything you said and did for the past 10 years go away.
You have become, in alot of ways, the very thing you used to bitch about in threads that went on for 10+ pages. You're the flag burning hippie who grew up to be a defense contractor.
You really shoudn't be surprised.


FWIW, I have no opinion about your actions either way, it's not my business, and you know I've always liked you. I'm just pointing out why when you do something it warrants 20 pages of outrage and when someone like hahaha does the same thing nobody notices.
You know Lenny you are dead on right. I brought this upon myself without question. Good point.
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is Choker and others posted anything about this?
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You have become, in alot of ways, the very thing you used to bitch about in threads that went on for 10+ pages. You're the flag burning hippie who grew up to be a defense contractor.
I want to think that he's still the flag burning hippie at heart. I hope he finds a way to protect his mark for his own purposes, without having to resort to aggressively taking everyones _____sextube.com domains.

I apologize for debating the issue so aggressively too.
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You know what I've noticed? It's all the gallery makers that have a hard on for me. Why is that? I don't see program owners hating me. I don't see any of my active affiliates hating me. In fact those guys are icqing me laughing telling me when will I learn to step away from GFY. Why is it that gallery makers hate me so much?
Wow... Take a stab at the people who helped you where you are now... Good job.
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Shit my car wouldn't start cause we got the most snow in 8 years here so I was stuck on gfy with some slow internet... but yea, as a webmaster who relies on seo generic domains as the easiest way to accomplish that. You protect your interests, I protect my interests, I just don't see your interest needing any of this protection.

I really think this shows just how generic sex tube is. Sex tube has been getting searches well before sextube.com was a tube site and now "Sex Tube" is searched more then "Sex Movie".... internet uses just relate to the term "Tube" more then the term "Movie"

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+tube%2Csex+movie

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Wow... Take a stab at the people who helped you where you are now... Good job.
How is it a stab? The majority of people attacking me are either anonymous or gallery makers.
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Shit my car wouldn't start cause we got the most snow in 8 years here so I was stuck on gfy with some slow internet... but yea, as a webmaster who relies on seo generic domains as the easiest way to accomplish that. You protect your interests, I protect my interests, I just don't see your interest needing any of this protection.

I really think this shows just how generic sex tube is. Sex tube has been getting searches well before sextube.com was a tube site and now "Sex Tube" is searched more then "Sex Movie".... internet uses just relate to the term "Tube" more then the term "Movie"

http://www.google.com/trends?q=sex+tube%2Csex+movie

SexTube was a tube site in 2006
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Yea a tube site... so tube site is a generic term to describe a type of web site. Sex is one of the most searched for terms. So most searched for term = generic + most common type of web site.... but whatever beating a dead horse here. I dont even own any sextube domains
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I remember when AFF and lars pulled their stuff. You'd see asskissers there aswell, thinking "o shit, nothing will happen, they're too big". Months later, they came apologising. Guess the hit was far too big to handle.
I have a feeling shap will have an apology thread aswell
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Hey Guys. This Trademark situation has gotten way out of hand. I honestly can?t believe this topic was worthy of 11 pages within 24 hours. Seriously, companies have been caught committing fraud, shaving, lying, stealing and their threads were a few pages. We try to protect our trademark and it?s an 11 page blow out?

Anyhow, I?m not surprised some of you hate me for this Trademark situation.

Now I?m stuck in a lose lose situation. If I do what I?m being told protects my business then I?m considered a greedy asshole. If I do nothing I risk losing my trademark and possibly putting at risk my investment in SexTube. Our intention was never to get free traffic from anyone. Our intention is to protect our mark.
You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:45 PM   #95
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shap is now junk, asshole in my book, those kissing his ass are the same shit as him
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:45 PM   #96
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You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.
His Rogue Lawyer told him to do it, and Shap lost the ability to think for himself. So he did nothing wrong
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:46 PM   #97
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Who will the Bros side with in Shap vs WEG?
sextube (Shap) vs blacksextube.com / analsextube.com / asiansextube.com / latinsextube.com / (WEG)
bros vs bros. this can't end well.
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You are not protecting your trademark. Don't fool yourself into believing that. You are attempting to reverse hi-jack domains and that is unethical. That is what everyone has a problem with.
How is it a reverse hijack?
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:50 PM   #99
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bros vs bros. this can't end well.
bros vs bros take care of business quietly and everybody walks away happy.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:57 PM   #100
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How is it a reverse hijack?

I have nothing against you Shap - don't even know you - but you keep avoiding a direct answer to the following question....

now that you set your sights on 'hardsextube', do you now think that you own the rights to ANY domain name that has 'sextube' in it?

simple question, but you duck it - multiple examples have been given for active and non-active sites containing the word 'sextube'

people have a problem with the fact that you are moving against a high traffic site but (for now) are ignoring the others. Either you only want this site and all others get away with it (prejudicial) or you have further plans on taking them all (reverse hijacking on a massive scale)
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