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Old 11-29-2009, 06:07 PM   #51
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:12 PM   #52
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That hardly seems believable but it IS very possible dont get me wrong, LOL. Me, if it was my $25k I'd say hell no and keep it for myself LOL.
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That hardly seems believable but it IS very possible dont get me wrong, LOL. Me, if it was my $25k I'd say hell no and keep it for myself LOL.
Idiot, fuck off.
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That hardly seems believable but it IS very possible dont get me wrong, LOL. Me, if it was my $25k I'd say hell no and keep it for myself LOL.
I got some of the cash back though..but he still owes me huge..i didn't hear from him for ages now so i consider my money lost..
I blame myself for trusting this dude and not listening to my wife's gut feeling about him..
Anyway, for everyone dealing with the dude or are about to deal with him.. DONT!
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:18 PM   #55
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I got some of the cash back though..but he still owes me huge..i didn't hear from him for ages now so i consider my money lost..
I blame myself for trusting this dude and not listening to my wife's gut feeling about him..
Anyway, for everyone dealing with the dude or are about to deal with him.. DONT!
Not taking pokes at you, but why did you invest 25k into something without a legal contract?
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:21 PM   #57
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Man Vince that sucks badly. After the sale he told me he was going to pay his debts off with the money. Its a shame a different store played out. Michael was always a good guy to deal with but note taken oviously.

On another note I hope your health is ok man. :\
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Not taking pokes at you, but why did you invest 25k into something without a legal contract?
simple answer...because i am was a ignorant moron..
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Thanks! I appreciate that, and will get right to it!
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Man Vince that sucks badly. After the sale he told me he was going to pay his debts off with the money. Its a shame a different store played out. Michael was always a good guy to deal with but note taken oviously.

On another note I hope your health is ok man. :\
Yeah, he guaranteed me that when he was unable to pay me he would sell XLXX.. he did.. and i never seen a penny..

My health is somewhat better.. thanks man ;-)
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simple answer...because i am was a ignorant moron..
Yikes, you live, and you learn.

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Don't ever deal with this Micky Ams, he is a fraud and a thief.. he stole many k's of my hard earned cash.. just a warning to everyone dealing with the dude.. don't ever do business with this lying thief unless you want to get scammed....
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Wow... I am flabbergasted... I have dealt with Micky for YEARS and he has been nothing but honest and helpful. I am shocked by this.
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another one.
There are more. I am sure even know other people stay silent in the hope of getting their money back.
As we both know Mickey was an excellent con man.
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There are more. I am sure even know other people stay silent in the hope of getting their money back.
As we both know Mickey was an excellent con man.
Yeah, after a while i was getting the same feeling about him but that feeling was somewhat toned down by the fact that he did pay some of the money back to me.
He still owes me a lot though which i am sure i will never get back.

He contacted me today telling me that i should stop asking for the money as he doesn't have it and he will continue paying me back as soon he has more cash. He also said he is in dept of 200K and has only about 100 euros a month to spend..i guess i will never ever see my money back.
He never said sorry to me which makes me think he doesn't give a fuck.
I waited a long time to expose him here because there was at least a small cash flow back to me happening but now after months of nothing i thought it was time.

So, Mike.. i know you are reading this.. GO FUCK YOURSELF! GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND STOP PLAYING WOW ALL DAY LONG AND PAY THE PEOPLE YOU SCAMMED!
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Yeah, after a while i was getting the same feeling about him but that feeling was somewhat toned down by the fact that he did pay some of the money back to me.
He still owes me a lot though which i am sure i will never get back.

He contacted me today telling me that i should stop asking for the money as he doesn't have it and he will continue paying me back as soon he has more cash. He also said he is in dept of 200K and has only about 100 euros a month to spend..i guess i will never ever see my money back.
He never said sorry to me which makes me think he doesn't give a fuck.
I waited a long time to expose him here because there was at least a small cash flow back to me happening but now after months of nothing i thought it was time.

So, Mike.. i know you are reading this.. GO FUCK YOURSELF! GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND STOP PLAYING WOW ALL DAY LONG AND PAY THE PEOPLE YOU SCAMMED!
Its a strategy he has used on a lot of people. Keeping them silent by paying them at least some. I got lucky myself. He had used my bankaccount to receive payments and when AFF made a large payment I decided to keep the money and call it even. Years ago I got lucky as well when I was able to charge back the payments he made with my creditcard. I escaped twice. I must have had an angle on my shoulder. Stodan was not so lucky. He still owes Stodan a lot and Stodan informed a lot of people about what happened to him.
I am sorry to hear he abused your trust as well.
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Its a strategy he has used on a lot of people. Keeping them silent by paying them at least some. I got lucky myself. He had used my bankaccount to receive payments and when AFF made a large payment I decided to keep the money and call it even. Years ago I got lucky as well when I was able to charge back the payments he made with my creditcard. I escaped twice. I must have had an angle on my shoulder. Stodan was not so lucky. He still owes Stodan a lot and Stodan informed a lot of people about what happened to him.
I am sorry to hear he abused your trust as well.
Yeah i know it is a strategy for a long time but i was in denial.
My wife said "I TOLD YOU SO!" 2 years ago and she was right..
The dude was living like a king in Curacao with my and other people's hard earned cash.
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Its a strategy he has used on a lot of people. Keeping them silent by paying them at least some. I got lucky myself. He had used my bankaccount to receive payments and when AFF made a large payment I decided to keep the money and call it even. Years ago I got lucky as well when I was able to charge back the payments he made with my creditcard. I escaped twice. I must have had an angle on my shoulder. Stodan was not so lucky. He still owes Stodan a lot and Stodan informed a lot of people about what happened to him.
I am sorry to hear he abused your trust as well.
He made payments with your CC? damn.. but how the hell did he get access to your card? what happened?

edit: ow goody, 3000 posts! thanks Mike!
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He made payments with your CC? damn.. but how the hell did he get access to your card? what happened?

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He told me he did not have a creditcard and we agreed on him using my cc once cause he needed to pay server rent and this company supposedly only accepted creditcards.
He let it continue for about 5 months and then I decided to chargeback.
I was naive as well. I was more lucky.

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He told me he did not have a creditcard and we agreed on him using my cc once cause he needed to pay server rent and this company supposedly only accepted creditcards.
He let it continue for about 5 months and then I decided to chargeback.
I was naive as well. I was more lucky.
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I just promised him over ICQ that i will keep hunting him down so he will never ever get back in the adult scene again..
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Word on the street is that he is using your money to take your wife out and fuck her ass in seedy hotels while you aren't around. This is just the word on the street.
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Word on the street is that he is using your money to take your wife out and fuck her ass in seedy hotels while you aren't around. This is just the word on the street.
hmm, i am pretty sure the dude is gay...
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I have dealt with MickyAms for years and this is such a shock to me because he never ripped me off or did anything shady period... as a matter of fact he helped me out big time on a couple of occasions and has never asked for me to return the favor. I am completely floored because I had considered him a trustworthy person... it goes to show you that you never know who you are dealing with in this business... but time will always tell. It's nuts how shit works out.
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I have dealt with MickyAms for years and this is such a shock to me because he never ripped me off or did anything shady period... as a matter of fact he helped me out big time on a couple of occasions and has never asked for me to return the favor. I am completely floored because I had considered him a trustworthy person... it goes to show you that you never know who you are dealing with in this business... but time will always tell. It's nuts how shit works out.
Same known him for years also, never figured he would do something like this either.
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I have dealt with MickyAms for years and this is such a shock to me because he never ripped me off or did anything shady period... as a matter of fact he helped me out big time on a couple of occasions and has never asked for me to return the favor. I am completely floored because I had considered him a trustworthy person... it goes to show you that you never know who you are dealing with in this business... but time will always tell. It's nuts how shit works out.
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Same known him for years also, never figured he would do something like this either.
Did you guys trust him enough to make deals without paperwork? To give him credit and pay later? If so you guys were next on his list....
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I have dealt with MickyAms for years and this is such a shock to me because he never ripped me off or did anything shady period... as a matter of fact he helped me out big time on a couple of occasions and has never asked for me to return the favor. I am completely floored because I had considered him a trustworthy person... it goes to show you that you never know who you are dealing with in this business... but time will always tell. It's nuts how shit works out.
few options why he never scammed you:

1. you don't have enough money to be scammed from
2. you have a product that he is interested in and you offer it to him for free
3. your have a great reputation in the adult biz so he can pull himself up using your name
4. building trust by NOT fucking over every person he meets
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There are more. I am sure even know other people stay silent in the hope of getting their money back.
As we both know Mickey was an excellent con man.
I guess I can raise my hand at being out about $5k with him. I also kept quiet hoping I'd eventually get paid because I never took him as a scammer, just seemed like he was always taking on too many projects. (however who's to know what was really going on)

My $5k turned into a down payment on a partnership to start doing site builds for customers and he wanted me to move to the island, to help build the sites. We took on a group of sites to build and I did a lot of work grabbing galleries, doing thumbs, adding trades and even did some of the site layouts. I never saw a penny from it, nor did I ever get my own site built.

I have no clue if any of those guys ever got their money back, but I'm guessing it would be no, and I'm pretty certain they all paid him in full up front.

It's a shame really, I always liked him and he seemed to know his stuff and could have made some good money building those sites if they would have been built.

I wonder if this is a case of living out side his means and having one or two things go wrong that push over the domino's to the point he just said fuck it or if he just got lazy and wasn't working.. or hell I dunno I guess he could have been a scammer all along, but just didn't seem like it.

I do have to admit I've been damn good at not losing money with people in this biz but between this deal and having another project I paid out for which was unrelated, it really put me off adult and I've been laying low since.
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I really do feel bad for all of you guys, It is amazing, the lows people will go to to rip someone off of so much money. Disgusting, actually, and to show no remorse for their actions or even intentions of trying to pay back what they owe... makes me sick. Sorry guys! Just know that that fucker will get his, it's called karma. And lady Karma is the biggest bitchwhorecuntslut you will EVER meet.
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anyway there is always 2 sites of a medal, i really would like to see a statement of MickyAms to the accusations, or at least some explanations from him
yes, always 2 sides of the medal

side 1.
me, working my ass off making money to support my family.

side 2.
Micky taking away my money with bullshit promises and than living like a king in the Caribbean with mine and other people's money and playing WOW all day next to his WOW addicted girlfriend.

Micky, i swear i will not stop hunting you online and stop others from falling in your trap! maybe it's better to change your nickname to something else because your business here is OVER!!
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:02 AM   #94
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I must say ... I always seem to typo XXX and type in XLXX all the time! Awesome domain!

X = 3 keys in the same spot, to typo XXX as XLXX you must be doing some crazy ass typing bro..


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wow, just wow, the turn this thread took.
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wow, just wow, the turn this thread took.
yeah i wish i didn't have to post about him like this :-(
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<-- fucking amazed at the idiots that can't read
Hehehe..
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