does website design really matter these days? - GoFuckYourself.com

RogerV · 03-25-2009, 09:13 PM

look at all the tube sites they all have such a basic design and logo, they still get smashed with traffic

Ozarkz · 03-25-2009, 09:16 PM

Of course design matters.

Design is not just graphics it is also layout and navigation.

Look at some of the heavier designed tubes.. The extra design makes them harder and slower to navigate..

JamesK · 03-25-2009, 09:17 PM

The logo/design is just a part of branding, it's not as important as the usability and functionality of the site. With tube sites it's all perfect and exactly what the user wants. You get big thumbnails leading directly to the video, doesn't get any easier than that. They don't get famous for their good looking logo's lol

Rick Diculous · 03-25-2009, 09:44 PM

flashy graphics are out

d-null · 03-25-2009, 10:01 PM

a good design can still make the difference between someone just hitting the back button when your site opens for the first time or whether they stick around a bit to click around (and hopefully click on an ad or two)

PornMD · 03-25-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Diculous

flashy graphics are out

I think surfers are getting more concerned with ease of use and what's being offered vs. pretty colors and graphics anymore. As long as it doesn't look like barf, who's going to beat a shitload of free full scenes?

FreeHugeMovies · 03-25-2009, 10:09 PM

very silly question

Iron Fist · 03-25-2009, 10:12 PM

Don't worry ... demand for designers is always good.

Bored · 03-25-2009, 10:25 PM

I think it depends on what you mean. The way you code HTML can affect your ranking in SERPS, and on the other hand, if no one links to your site because the content sucks or the navigation doesn't work.

There is a new breed of HTML coders out there that follow standards and are trying to clean up HTML code (Such as myself) that have a minimalist way of thinking. Start with solid valid HTML and use CSS to style the page.

This results in a cleaner, faster, easier to edit, better for search engines, cell phones, handhelds, HTML code.

A really well designed website should:

A properly coded HTML page that validates and is semantic.
Usage of CSS only to style the look of the page.
Easy to use/understand navigation, multiple ways to visit the same content

You can get further into usability such as font contras and whatnot, but I think you get the idea.

Serge Litehead · 03-25-2009, 10:35 PM

design is everything - architecture, structure, presentation, usability, creativity, detailed precision, not just flashy graphics (which is a misconception)

for example: some things can be designed elegantly and others could look just horrible in either simple and complex forms.

when you see a good design - you can sense a thoughtful and creative mind is behind or at least logical to point.

tony286 · 03-25-2009, 10:45 PM

I think pretty doesnt mean sales. Look at craigslist.

MetaMan · 03-25-2009, 10:49 PM

i love the word "basic" when hours go into content placement and planning. it is harder to make a simpler design and still have it look professional. if you dont get that then their is no hope for you.

Brad Mitchell · 03-25-2009, 10:51 PM

Web site design can't matter that much, people still buy hosting from us and ours is 5 years old and quite ugly. It's the content that matters, I guess.. LOL

Cheers,

Brad

MetaMan · 03-25-2009, 10:51 PM

think of design like you think of a store in the mall, it is about display of your product. most designs that appear simple arent that at all.

like a site like this:
http://www.getrichinporn.com/

is way overdone.

MetaMan · 03-25-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Web site design can't matter that much, people still buy hosting from us and ours is 5 years old and quite ugly. It's the content that matters, I guess.. LOL

Cheers,

Brad

i like your site. it does the job. no need to overdue it.

but im also sure you rely more on return customers and word of mouth rather then your site being used as an advertisement.

Serge Litehead · 03-25-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

i love the word "basic" when hours go into content placement and planning. it is harder to make a simpler design and still have it look professional.

Very true.

potter · 03-25-2009, 11:07 PM

metaman owns this thread...

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VetaD · 03-25-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Web site design can't matter that much, people still buy hosting from us and ours is 5 years old and quite ugly. It's the content that matters, I guess.. LOL

Cheers,

Brad

You are in the hosting business. You give them good price, they buy.

You can have a simple page with nothing but prices on it and it sill will sell....

MrDeiz · 03-26-2009, 02:04 AM

content is what really matters.

only designers are jerking on design

DarkJedi · 03-26-2009, 02:05 AM

Matters as in how?

I know for a fact that a changing an outdated design on a paysite made it convert 35%-45% better.

CarlosTheGaucho · 03-26-2009, 02:10 AM

Design shouldn't be a synonym with the word "flashy"

- the initial feel
- the intuitive navigation
- a clear focus on selling what you want to sell
- a real to the point text work
- easy way to guide them to pay

Those are a couple things that matter much more than if it was Bruno Dickmans desiging your site, you know why?

Because Bruno didn't design my site.

P.S. I respect Bruno greatly, I'm just busting his balls

Brad Mitchell · 03-26-2009, 07:28 AM

All good comments. I agree that elegance and simplicity are not to be underestimated with regard to level of difficulty.

Brad

cherrylula · 03-26-2009, 07:34 AM

it does if you know how to KISS and focus on the content.

LiveDose · 03-26-2009, 07:36 AM

A lot of good comments.

Dirty Dane · 03-26-2009, 07:39 AM

Speed matters.

Ron2k1 · 03-26-2009, 07:39 AM

A good design can make a huge difference, an example of a good designed tube site is www.tube8.com

Pretty simply but nice and fast and of course excellent content

(I hate that site though because of all the illegal stuff given away)

alexchechs · 03-26-2009, 07:50 AM

But see even a basic logo and clean layout is considered design. It's just a really clean and appropriate design. It wouldn't work out for say a solo girl with alot of personality. but then again a tube site shouldn't be super colorful and full of personality. Design comes to doing what right for the content and audience and not just using the latest fonts and a zillion photoshop filters...

Design is also key in building brand recognition. If you pay attention to every logo, link, button on a site you can really drive across your brand and get the return customer and not just the one time sign up.

Dirty Dane · 03-26-2009, 07:54 AM

I suck at designing, but focus at the content. And it works

Porko · 03-26-2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

Design shouldn't be a synonym with the word "flashy"

- the initial feel
- the intuitive navigation
- a clear focus on selling what you want to sell
- a real to the point text work
- easy way to guide them to pay

Thanks perfect. Carlos.

Davy · 03-26-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

very silly question

not silly at all

Ripper - RiotDesign · 03-26-2009, 01:16 PM

I think that all is a conjunction. Great design (simple or complex - depends of the objetive), not for that reason a simple design should be a poor design. Another important point is the qualification criterion too.

03-25-2009, 09:13 PM	#1
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	does website design really matter these days? look at all the tube sites they all have such a basic design and logo, they still get smashed with traffic

03-25-2009, 09:17 PM	#3
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	The logo/design is just a part of branding, it's not as important as the usability and functionality of the site. With tube sites it's all perfect and exactly what the user wants. You get big thumbnails leading directly to the video, doesn't get any easier than that. They don't get famous for their good looking logo's lol __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

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03-25-2009, 10:01 PM	#5
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	a good design can still make the difference between someone just hitting the back button when your site opens for the first time or whether they stick around a bit to click around (and hopefully click on an ad or two) __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Don't worry ... demand for designers is always good. __________________ i like waffles

03-25-2009, 09:16 PM	#2
Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	Of course design matters. Design is not just graphics it is also layout and navigation. Look at some of the heavier designed tubes.. The extra design makes them harder and slower to navigate..

03-25-2009, 10:09 PM	#7
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	very silly question

03-25-2009, 10:25 PM	#9
Bored Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,011	I think it depends on what you mean. The way you code HTML can affect your ranking in SERPS, and on the other hand, if no one links to your site because the content sucks or the navigation doesn't work. There is a new breed of HTML coders out there that follow standards and are trying to clean up HTML code (Such as myself) that have a minimalist way of thinking. Start with solid valid HTML and use CSS to style the page. This results in a cleaner, faster, easier to edit, better for search engines, cell phones, handhelds, HTML code. A really well designed website should: A properly coded HTML page that validates and is semantic. Usage of CSS only to style the look of the page. Easy to use/understand navigation, multiple ways to visit the same content You can get further into usability such as font contras and whatnot, but I think you get the idea. __________________ If Satan Wore a Hairpeice, there would be HELL TOUPEE!! HTML Porn pbbc fo li

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Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	design is everything - architecture, structure, presentation, usability, creativity, detailed precision, not just flashy graphics (which is a misconception) for example: some things can be designed elegantly and others could look just horrible in either simple and complex forms. when you see a good design - you can sense a thoughtful and creative mind is behind or at least logical to point. __________________ SilverCrocodile.com Adult web design since '05

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I think pretty doesnt mean sales. Look at craigslist.

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	i love the word "basic" when hours go into content placement and planning. it is harder to make a simpler design and still have it look professional. if you dont get that then their is no hope for you.

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Web site design can't matter that much, people still buy hosting from us and ours is 5 years old and quite ugly. It's the content that matters, I guess.. LOL Cheers, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Matters as in how? I know for a fact that a changing an outdated design on a paysite made it convert 35%-45% better.

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CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,510	Design shouldn't be a synonym with the word "flashy" - the initial feel - the intuitive navigation - a clear focus on selling what you want to sell - a real to the point text work - easy way to guide them to pay Those are a couple things that matter much more than if it was Bruno Dickmans desiging your site, you know why? Because Bruno didn't design my site. P.S. I respect Bruno greatly, I'm just busting his balls __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year? Last edited by CarlosTheGaucho; 03-26-2009 at 02:12 AM..

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	All good comments. I agree that elegance and simplicity are not to be underestimated with regard to level of difficulty. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	it does if you know how to KISS and focus on the content.

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LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	A lot of good comments. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Speed matters.

03-26-2009, 07:39 AM	#26
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	A good design can make a huge difference, an example of a good designed tube site is www.tube8.com Pretty simply but nice and fast and of course excellent content (I hate that site though because of all the illegal stuff given away)

03-26-2009, 07:50 AM	#27
alexchechs Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: BROOKLYN!!! Posts: 3,474	But see even a basic logo and clean layout is considered design. It's just a really clean and appropriate design. It wouldn't work out for say a solo girl with alot of personality. but then again a tube site shouldn't be super colorful and full of personality. Design comes to doing what right for the content and audience and not just using the latest fonts and a zillion photoshop filters... Design is also key in building brand recognition. If you pay attention to every logo, link, button on a site you can really drive across your brand and get the return customer and not just the one time sign up. __________________ Alex Chechs http://thefawnconspiracy.com

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	I suck at designing, but focus at the content. And it works

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Ripper - RiotDesign Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 216	I think that all is a conjunction. Great design (simple or complex - depends of the objetive), not for that reason a simple design should be a poor design. Another important point is the qualification criterion too. __________________ Panteon Soluciones Graficas - Professional & Custom Graphic Developments ICQ: 367008853 - Skype: panteon.s.g - Email: [email protected]