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		 I have an account with bangbros since 2006 and works perfect getting sales and sending traffic never got a problem and the support was always good. I think whomever has issues with them has two options talk to them to solve it or move on.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Doing your best to fix it? Doing your best to fix it would mean you going to EVERY board and posting a message there, have you done this? Doing your best to fix it would mean, you emailing every banned, terminated or blocked affiliate since you updated the program, checking their accounts with a fine tooth comb and making sure they are contacted and asked if they can log in. Doing your best would mean, you checking the system as soon as people started to contact you, finding the problem, fixing it and not asking for passports. Unless you want to blame someone lower in the chain. Then doing your best would mean giving that job to someone higher. Quote: 
	
 Think about that folks. If he was the only person, then they should be thankful he brought it to the boards. If he is not the only person then clearly their "best" was not good enough. Maybe if you want to keep his and other peoples accounts you had better look at this from the other side. You should not be flaming him for doing what he did bringing it to the boards. Not anyone else to boards that have been missed while you're doing your best. And getting the wrong dates given to you, if this was an internal employee your best is not good enough. Quote: 
	
 Yes contacting all those who were terminated and did not contact you makes you a stand up guy NOW. Did you need me to nudge you towards that, because originally you did not ask for that. So please be careful who you flame and over what. Stop pointing fingers at people who are making suggestions you're taking up.  | 
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		 Paul shut the fuck up you crazy old fool. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 and it wasn't an internal employee with the wrong dates. chargebacks come from the processor and/or the credit card companies. bangbros does not own a credit card company. i'm sorry you don't feel i'm qualified to handle this. i would disagree with you on that. i didn't need you to "nudge" me towards anything. i myself and others were on top of the problem, trying to get in touch with people. you want credit for something i was doing days before you said it? be my guest. and yes, i never said it was a "small" problem. i've helped out everyone from 2 sales a month guys to much more. i'd appreciate if you'd stop accusing us of things, trying to take what i or anyone else says out of context. why did you even icq me yesterday? to say hi? and that you're working on something that doesn't concern us? from the beginning, we've said there is a problem and not everyone is affected. the people that were, all they have to do is talk to me and i will try to fix it for them. 
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		 software problem ... every software have a logs, once the problem is filled, you had to send email to everyone whos account is or was suspended ... that was not done, now it is not fault of software but no interests to do that of the crew ... no more comments needed ... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Hey Steve fuck em all just means more joins for me. They are all just wasting your time when you could be serving me, leave them banned and spend your day working with me. Pipecrew will let you I know it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			Its gone from "believing in something" to "telling them how to run their business" Business must be slow on Paul's side because those are some long ass posts. 
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 Is it wrong to make things public when keeping it quiet failed. Is it wrong to point out a company who is waiting on others to contact them, to right their mistakes. Is it wrong to tell people on a board that had missed this. Maybe someone else would like to check some of the other major boards to see if it's been brought to their attention. I won't do it. I'll get flamed. ![]() Don't see them replying to anyone on B&B. Should I mention over there they are now contacting all terminated affiliates. They will be reassured with that news. Don't see anything on Xbiz either. That's it for me. I'm finished with this as long as Steve does not start flaming me again. I pick holes in him too easy. Maybe he is doing his best.  | 
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		 Scuba Steve is the man...He will take care of you...but go one on one, this is stupid and a waste of everyone's time 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i'm done with dealing with this in regards to paul. you win, you picked me apart. i really don't care, i have more important things to worry about.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			if you are actually an affiliate of ours, and have something that actually concerns us, please get in touch with me. i'll also be in phoenix, more than happy to meet you there and discuss anything. get in tomorrow, be there till sunday. 438528520/[email protected] 
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		 Cliffnotes?  Or not even worth mentioning?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Cliffnotes, BangBros had a software bug, caused a "please contact support" message to actually say "banned" by accident, Paul Markham and a few other numb skulls started to call BangBros worthless and are conspiring with the government to out terrorists from al queda or some shit like that, Bangbros continues to be a leading sponsor program and pushing record numbers once again. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Mr Jefferson almost got away with it, if it weren't for those pesky kids and their dog Scooby doo. That about sums it up, anybody here not already pimping BangBros and their genius BangBus and the always hilarious BaitBus, signup here www.bangbrosonline.com  | 
	
		
                 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
		
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		 Paul Markham is a crazy old bastard. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 you can blame paul or whoever will be against that bangbros fault or whoever you want, but if bangbros had problem and they knew about it, they had to make announcement and send emails to affected webmasters. they didnt do that and it looks like there are still webmasters sending traffic to codes that are linked to closed accounts ... what the hell is this discussion about then? you say bangbros is cool? wake the fuck up! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 They've always been great with me 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Bangbros doesn't "have" to do shit, like Steve has said a number of times already some webmasters simply contacted them and then others came running to the boards, then there's the asshats who hopped on board on the forums, and decided it was better worth their while to complain and bitch and whine like a menopausal female, than to actually get on icq and do something about it. Paul thinks he's "in the right" and he can think that all he wants, but I'd love to see how he would react if someone got as in his face as he is getting, trying to tell him how to run his business. Maybe something like "Keep your wrinkly old ass outta the content production, people don't want to see it" Point is, its none of his business; he doesn't own and operate or even work for BangBros, and if he was sincere in his motivations, he would have come up with a much more pleasant approach to his "helpful suggestions" instead of running all over the entire web throwing threads here and there like chicken little screaming that the sky is falling. Ultimately, I think that the sponsors are there to provide the paysites, the promotional content, but it is up to the webmasters to keep track of and maintain their own accounts. BangBros is not here to babysit every single fucking one of you... Shit happens. Deal with it. 
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		 Read the OP, then come back. Shit in my fucking hat, you Bro suckers are unreal, did you read the thread? In it's entirety?  I cant believe half the fucking posts in this thread, it's like 'oh lets skip to page 3'. Read from page fucking one. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	I am sure Steve etc are 'stand up guys', but this isn't anything small like what they are claiming and definitely not limited to a mere 15 people. Hell I have personally spoken to more than 15 people myself who have been shitcanned, and that doesn't include the 2 accounts here that were killed off. Also a mere login error doesn't require a passport verification and a reference to excessive chargebacks. Bangbros reps you need to all get your stories straight with eachother first.  | 
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		 They close my account for nothing afters 3 years only because I am from Ukraine. And also they close accounts of many other fair webmasters. I was talking with their support, they show totally disrespect. Dont send traffic to them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Pipecrew, I already talk with your friend unrespectful guy name Steve. No need to hit you up anymore since you are CHEATERS! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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