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Old 04-01-2009, 08:34 AM   #1
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Can you shoot exclusive content for us

Due to the unfortunate episode with us getting ripped off by a photographer for $5000 we are now looking for other photographers to help you fill an order.

We currently need

Fat Black Models
Thick Black & Latina Models
Mature Black Models (over 40 years )

If you have access to black and latina models and have references from other companies you have worked for please email webmaster (at) clickmemedia.com with how much you charge, and I will send you our specs.
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If you have access to black and latina models and have references from other companies you have worked for please email webmaster (at) clickmemedia.com with how much you charge, and I will send you our specs.


Tell you how much THEN you will tell us what you want?

It' doesn't work that way, James.
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I hate to miss out on an opportunity to throw my hat into the exclusive content ring for any company but "fat", "black" and "mature" don't describe most of my models who are almost exclusively skinny, white and young. Good luck in your search!
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Sorry to hear that, looks like a good job for someone.
We just dont have models in that niche here in Vancouver sadly.
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I hate to miss out on an opportunity to throw my hat into the exclusive content ring for any company but "fat", "black" and "mature" don't describe most of my models who are almost exclusively skinny, white and young. Good luck in your search!
yep, that's the problem. However its good because we have way less competition than having sites featuring hot white girls..
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I can probably make that happen but would take me a week or two to find some candidates. We shoot in HD for video and photos with a Canon 1d Mark II Can show you samples of non fat, black, mature work hehe. Ill drop you an email a bit later, or you can email me at [email protected]
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If you have access to black and latina models and have references from other companies you have worked for please email webmaster (at) clickmemedia.com with how much you charge, and I will send you our specs.
And yeah Aaron is dead on here, if you are looking for a serious producer you should expect custom quotes for just about any product line.
So get names, numbers and emails, send your specs to the top choice and take it from there
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Tell you how much THEN you will tell us what you want?

It' doesn't work that way, James.
I don't understand. I am asking for a quote, is there a problem with asking for a quote ?

Explain it to me...
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And yeah Aaron is dead on here, if you are looking for a serious producer you should expect custom quotes for just about any product line.
So get names, numbers and emails, send your specs to the top choice and take it from there
Names, number and email from who... Am I missing something?
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I don't understand. I am asking for a quote, is there a problem with asking for a quote ?

Explain it to me...

A quote for what exactly?

Solo?
Boy/girl?
Girl/Girl?
Photo?
Video?
How many photos or photo sets?
How many videos?
How long are the videos?
How many photos in the photo sets?

I could go on and on with this.

We need to know what YOU want before we can give you a quote.




You don't walk into a dealership and tell them you want a wide black car.
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Tell you how much THEN you will tell us what you want?

It' doesn't work that way, James.
It does if you want the cheapest possible price.

The guy then gives you the price and asks for money up front as a deposit and someone risks losing their deposit.
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Names, number and email from who... Am I missing something?
People that will be posting here, such as Aaron, pretty sure he would have the models
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A quote for what exactly?

Solo?
Boy/girl?
Girl/Girl?
Photo?
Video?
How many photos or photo sets?
How many videos?
How long are the videos?
How many photos in the photo sets?

I could go on and on with this.

We need to know what YOU want before we can give you a quote.




You don't walk into a dealership and tell them you want a wide black car.
Email sent, thanks mate..
My assistant has all that stuff and she will email you, thanks again
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Your Black Amateur site will be very different from your Booty Breakers site.

Different content, different quotes.
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Mind you, should you get any other jobs that we can pull off in Vancouver BC let me know as casper AT hdpornstreams.com or casper ST cool-content.com
We have more then enough references to show you
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Email sent, thanks mate..
My assistant has all that stuff and she will email you, thanks again

Works for me.
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A quote for what exactly?

Solo?
Boy/girl?
Girl/Girl?
Photo?
Video?
How many photos or photo sets?
How many videos?
How long are the videos?
How many photos in the photo sets?

I could go on and on with this.

We need to know what YOU want before we can give you a quote.




You don't walk into a dealership and tell them you want a wide black car.
Do they want 5-6 solo scenes in a day with a tired model shot be a tired shooter, who will both work for a cut price and produce content that's average at best.

Or do they want 2-3 solo scenes shot in a day and the model giving her all and the shooter thinking of doing something a bit different and unique. Producing content that will convert.

We've nearly given up shooting custom for the Net. It's not worth it. Sell a solo girl scene 20 times at $25 and make more money.

The phone market still pays a good price and does not give a dam about exclusive.
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i am not surprised you got pissed on..
considering that you get what you pay for.
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James I'll email you. I have shot lots for you before and you liked the results. :-)
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i am not surprised you got pissed on..
considering that you get what you pay for.

So you think that the price agreed upon justifies not performing the service you have been paid for or refunding the money?

Who are you ?

Don't think much of your ethics...
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So you think that the price agreed upon justifies not performing the service you have been paid for or refunding the money?

Who are you ?

Don't think much of your ethics...
sorry that might have come out wrong..

i bid on the project last time you were looking for a shooter.
so what i am saying is that based on those low rates which were offered, i can understand why only scammers agree to those terms.
obviously they are looking to scam you, not do legit business and the only way they can make money is by scamming you.. (i am not saying it is right to do so)

programs who pay their producers a decent rate and in a timely manner tend to keep their producers for years.
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So you think that the price agreed upon justifies not performing the service you have been paid for or refunding the money?

Who are you ?

Don't think much of your ethics...
Here's some advice.

The content on the tour and affiliates use determines the traffic flow and conversion ratios. The content inside the site determines the retention and rejoins. Both are directly linked to your ability to get traffic, more traffic and better traffic.

Buying the thing that has so much influence in determining your income on price is a bad move. You need to get yourself a good reliable shooter who will work for you for years and with a smile. Getting any other kind of supplier can lead to problems.

Such as he can't be bothered to work with you next week because you pay badly and he's got a better client, he keeps his best girls for his best clients first (good new girls sell, the drop out rate is high) getting them second or third is bad, he decides to cut the costs on your product because you're not worth it or he simply can't make a silk purse out of the budget you gave.

He gets a new client or leaves the business and leaves you to GFY for your money.

Firstly go on reputation, experience and the products porn value of what he's done before. All in the same order. Then worry about getting a good deal. Because the best people are always in demand.

JP-pornshooter and I are not telling you about our ethics, we are telling you about the ethics of people at the lower end of all businesses. Porn business ethics, I think are worse.
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Here's some advice.

The content on the tour and affiliates use determines the traffic flow and conversion ratios. The content inside the site determines the retention and rejoins. Both are directly linked to your ability to get traffic, more traffic and better traffic.

Buying the thing that has so much influence in determining your income on price is a bad move. You need to get yourself a good reliable shooter who will work for you for years and with a smile. Getting any other kind of supplier can lead to problems.

Such as he can't be bothered to work with you next week because you pay badly and he's got a better client, he keeps his best girls for his best clients first (good new girls sell, the drop out rate is high) getting them second or third is bad, he decides to cut the costs on your product because you're not worth it or he simply can't make a silk purse out of the budget you gave.

He gets a new client or leaves the business and leaves you to GFY for your money.

Firstly go on reputation, experience and the products porn value of what he's done before. All in the same order. Then worry about getting a good deal. Because the best people are always in demand.

JP-pornshooter and I are not telling you about our ethics, we are telling you about the ethics of people at the lower end of all businesses. Porn business ethics, I think are worse.
thankyou for telling me how to run my business however I did not ask for your advice. If I want advise I will be sure to ask for it. THanks.
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sorry that might have come out wrong..

i bid on the project last time you were looking for a shooter.
so what i am saying is that based on those low rates which were offered, i can understand why only scammers agree to those terms.
obviously they are looking to scam you, not do legit business and the only way they can make money is by scamming you.. (i am not saying it is right to do so)

programs who pay their producers a decent rate and in a timely manner tend to keep their producers for years.
Just to clarify.
We have been in business 12 years. In that time we have worked with various photographers some good, some bad. Only one has ever ripped us off & this was on the 3rd order, the first two went ok.
Also we have worked with a number of companies over 5 years and never had any issues.

You make me sound like the mafia, if a company provides a quote and it is too high then we don't use them. It's the same with designers, programmers any contractor with hire....
I am not forcing anybody to work with us, and from the post yesterday we received 12 replies and if I find one company to work with then it was a sucessfull post..

Sorry your previous bid was not successful..
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Here's some advice.

The content on the tour and affiliates use determines the traffic flow and conversion ratios. The content inside the site determines the retention and rejoins. Both are directly linked to your ability to get traffic, more traffic and better traffic.

Buying the thing that has so much influence in determining your income on price is a bad move. You need to get yourself a good reliable shooter who will work for you for years and with a smile. Getting any other kind of supplier can lead to problems.

Such as he can't be bothered to work with you next week because you pay badly and he's got a better client, he keeps his best girls for his best clients first (good new girls sell, the drop out rate is high) getting them second or third is bad, he decides to cut the costs on your product because you're not worth it or he simply can't make a silk purse out of the budget you gave.

He gets a new client or leaves the business and leaves you to GFY for your money.

Firstly go on reputation, experience and the products porn value of what he's done before. All in the same order. Then worry about getting a good deal. Because the best people are always in demand.

JP-pornshooter and I are not telling you about our ethics, we are telling you about the ethics of people at the lower end of all businesses. Porn business ethics, I think are worse.
If I knew you I would show you how many joins we have done over the last 12 years...
We any doing ok the way I choose to conduct business, thanks...
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Sorry your previous bid was not successful..
my bid was way too high, but no worries i am not missing any meals.
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cool, then everybody is happy..
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