Times like these if feels good to promote well established sponsors - GoFuckYourself.com

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 06:09 AM

Feels like bumpy times for a lot of the smaller sponsors these days. I am having to fight for some money from a couple smaller ones. Which is a shame because I like promoting the sites of smaller and newer sponsors some times. Particularly when I am trying to find micro niche sites. It is feeling a bit more risky now though. It has been ages since I had to worry about getting paid by sponsors when I sign up but that is starting to come into play with me.

As a result I am finding myself going back to my well established sponsors. Yes, I am talking about sponsors such as Max Cash but not just us. It feels like when I am building a hardcore site where it isn't too 'micro nichey' that I am reaching for the people that have paid me on time for years.

Anybody else find themselves doing the same sort of thing?

HookUPcom · 04-09-2009, 06:19 AM

I can certainly respect that... My last girl friend could never work for a small company, it was too stressful for her. She felt safe in big corporate. She went from IBM to AG Edwards and liked it at that level. On the other hand, one of my best friends is a Venture Capitalist. He raises millions of dollars of other people's money to then invest in small companies that he feels he can help.

J.

CaptainHowdy · 04-09-2009, 07:14 AM

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Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 08:57 AM

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thanks for your indepth opinion ;)

polish_aristocrat · 04-09-2009, 09:01 AM

I always promoted only the big sponsors...

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HookUPcom

I can certainly respect that... My last girl friend could never work for a small company, it was too stressful for her. She felt safe in big corporate. She went from IBM to AG Edwards and liked it at that level. On the other hand, one of my best friends is a Venture Capitalist. He raises millions of dollars of other people's money to then invest in small companies that he feels he can help.

J.

I have nothing against small companies and I guess just because somebody looks big doesn't mean that are any more secure. Just that in this period it is becoming more and more about established sponsors for me. They can be smaller because I still like dunking into some of the smaller sponsors for micro niche sites but they need to at least be established smaller sponsors for me now so that feel like I am not taking such a risk with my pay at the moment.

Sands · 04-09-2009, 09:56 AM

It's definitely a rocky period for smaller sponsors as there are declines on all fronts. Although, I would think that smaller sponsors, by virture of their size, would be able to turn on a dime in business terms and quickly take advantage of any profitable avenues that present themselves during this downward trend.

UFGators2007 · 04-09-2009, 10:05 AM

There are definitely some good ones still out there doing a great job.

commonsense · 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM

Nope.

The biggies are more likely to convert worse and fuck your surfers, old school style

There's a few "newer" programs that are plenty big that will run your surfers through the credit card gauntlet. (use the GFY search unless it's broken). But no payment at all is risk for sure with new programs. Nice to know if they flounder there will be guys waiting to snatch them up (same ones the love to charge members multiple times) and hopefully will make good on the payments.

Something not discussed is smaller quality programs might be more flexible to change. Less overhead and saturation. They would have less fat to trim that comes with a fast forced downsizing of a large business.

But being a lone gunman in this business you get to pick your poisons.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Nope.

The biggies are more likely to convert worse and fuck your surfers, old school style

And why would you say that? With conversions, I get what you are saying but it isn't always true in my experience. Obviously I have the most knowledge of Max Cash here but I know our conversions are up and especially since we did the total revamp on Kara's a little bit back. The site may be very well established but it doesn't look stale so it is converting.

And as far as fucking surfers..nope for us anyway but I don't see how smaller sponsors can't do that.

In any case I wasn't knocking smaller..I said established. I have smaller sponsors that convert very well and pay me like clockwork too.

BVF · 04-09-2009, 11:41 AM

Affiliates get paid on time with me....No bullshit...I get NOTHING out of fucking a webmaster...

Click on Mr. Cosby

Ozarkz · 04-09-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Feels like bumpy times for a lot of the smaller sponsors these days. I am having to fight for some money from a couple smaller ones. Which is a shame because I like promoting the sites of smaller and newer sponsors some times. Particularly when I am trying to find micro niche sites. It is feeling a bit more risky now though. It has been ages since I had to worry about getting paid by sponsors when I sign up but that is starting to come into play with me.

As a result I am finding myself going back to my well established sponsors. Yes, I am talking about sponsors such as Max Cash but not just us. It feels like when I am building a hardcore site where it isn't too 'micro nichey' that I am reaching for the people that have paid me on time for years.

Anybody else find themselves doing the same sort of thing?

You are an EMPLOYEE of Maxcash they aren't your sponsor.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

You are an EMPLOYEE of Maxcash they aren't your sponsor.

I have been an adult webmaster since 1998..they were my sponsor WAY before I worked here. I am as much an affiliate as I am a rep in my day to day work. Which is why I am still working at this hour..sites to build!

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Affiliates get paid on time with me....No bullshit...I get NOTHING out of fucking a webmaster...

Click on Mr. Cosby

He makes me want to have pudding pops. They should sell those in the UK.

Ozarkz · 04-09-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

I have been an adult webmaster since 1998..they were my sponsor WAY before I worked here. I am as much an affiliate as I am a rep in my day to day work. Which is why I am still working at this hour..sites to build!

Do you know what a Shill is?

WiredGuy · 04-09-2009, 12:46 PM

Yup, these days its re-assuring to send joins to those we know have the financial backing to make those payouts

WG

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Do you know what a Shill is?

As I said, I am not just talking about Max Cash..I am talking established as a whole and if you have seen any threads this week you would see the one in particular that sparked this thread for me where I (and others) are dealing with getting our money out of an affiliate program that just messed us around.

Am I affiliated with Max Cash? Obviously. Does that mean I wasn't and am not an affiliate with them? No..as I said, been around since 1998 and most of us that were around then promoted Max Cash. Was I *just* talking about Max Cash? No which was clearly stated.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Yup, these days its re-assuring to send joins to those we know have the financial backing to make those payouts

WG

Thank you! Which after chasing a payout this week is what I was referring to.

Ozarkz · 04-09-2009, 12:50 PM

GFY never ceases to amaze.

DarkJedi · 04-09-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

As a result I am finding myself going back to my well established sponsors. Yes, I am talking about sponsors such as Max Cash.

That was so subtle.

You don't even bother to make shit up anymore.

Warren · 04-09-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

He makes me want to have pudding pops. They should sell those in the UK.

What are pudding pops? I miss a lot of food from the UK, although I do have an import store not far from me that has some of my favourite foods, like sausage rolls for example lol.

Sly · 04-09-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren

What are pudding pops? I miss a lot of food from the UK, although I do have an import store not far from me that has some of my favourite foods, like sausage rolls for example lol.

Pudding pops are American I would imagine, I think they are made by Jell-O. Have not had one since I was a kid but they were good!

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren

What are pudding pops? I miss a lot of food from the UK, although I do have an import store not far from me that has some of my favourite foods, like sausage rolls for example lol.

Do they not sell them any more in the States? They were all the rage when I was a kid. They were basically frozen pudding (American pudding not UK cakey pudding) on a stick.

frank7799 · 04-09-2009, 12:55 PM

When the smaller programs use CCBill or Epoch, your payments will be at least as save as payments from bigger sponsors.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Pudding pops are American I would imagine, I think they are made by Jell-O. Have not had one since I was a kid but they were good!

They used to do Jello pops too. Which were good but did have a weird texture when they melted sometimes.

Anyway, the reason Bill reminds me of them is he was the commercial face of them when I was a kid.

That, plus he makes me want to sing the picture pages song.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4yadult

When the smaller programs use CCBill or Epoch, your payments will be at least as save as payments from bigger sponsors.

I totally agree with that..I use a *lot* of ccbill sponsors because I know I will get paid. Plus, a lot of great micro-niche sponsors use CCbill and that lets me have the confidence to try them out.

BV · 04-09-2009, 12:59 PM

This thread is so full of bullshit.

Big sponsors suck, over saturated, many more reasons to fuck you.

Most small Micro Niche sponsors are with CCBill and YOU NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING PAID BY CCBILL

So take this thread and shove it where the sun don't shine because it's TOTALLY BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

Stick to your dumbass useless threads that you usually make.

Don't try and slander smaller companies.

If your not getting paid by smaller companies then they are not too small if they are in charge of their own payouts!

BV · 04-09-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Yup, these days its re-assuring to send joins to those we know have the financial backing to make those payouts

WG

You mean the ones that fuck everyone?

You fucking seo spammer

BV · 04-09-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

nope.

The biggies are more likely to convert worse and fuck your surfers, old school style

there's a few "newer" programs that are plenty big that will run your surfers through the credit card gauntlet. (use the gfy search unless it's broken). But no payment at all is risk for sure with new programs. Nice to know if they flounder there will be guys waiting to snatch them up (same ones the love to charge members multiple times) and hopefully will make good on the payments.

Something not discussed is smaller quality programs might be more flexible to change. Less overhead and saturation. They would have less fat to trim that comes with a fast forced downsizing of a large business.

But being a lone gunman in this business you get to pick your poisons.

quoted for truth

Sarah_Jayne · 04-09-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

This thread is so full of bullshit.

Big sponsors suck, over saturated, many more reasons to fuck you.

Most small Micro Niche sponsors are with CCBill and YOU NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING PAID BY CCBILL

So take this thread and shove it where the sun don't shine because it's TOTALLY BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

Stick to your dumbass useless threads that you usually make.

Don't try and slander smaller companies.

If your not getting paid by smaller companies then they are not too small if they are in charge of their own payouts!

Again..established..not big and I as I said..I DO work a lot in micro niche and actually love it when they use CCbill because it makes me signup.

Scott Jack · 04-09-2009, 06:06 PM

What sponsors fucked you for money?

I think as someone new in the industry I would rather find out which sponsors didn't pay you in the second paragraph then read a MaxCash plug. Everyone knows you guys are established lol so why keep telling us all that?

BV · 04-09-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by m4yadult

When the smaller programs use CCBill or Epoch, your payments will be at least as save as payments from bigger sponsors.

or safer

amateurcanada · 04-09-2009, 09:33 PM

I'd encourage people to join us, would welcome some new partners - our brands of sites are personal.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-10-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Jack

What sponsors fucked you for money?

I think as someone new in the industry I would rather find out which sponsors didn't pay you in the second paragraph then read a MaxCash plug. Everyone knows you guys are established lol so why keep telling us all that?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=898091

And again it isn't that small sponsors are bad..with doing micro niche stuff I have long been a supporter of small sponsors but these days for me to risk signing up for one they *have* to be ccbill for me to feel comfortable.

Sarah_Jayne · 04-10-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by amateurcanada

I'd encourage people to join us, would welcome some new partners - our brands of sites are personal.

I promote you on a couple of my blogs..never any problems

JimmiDean · 04-10-2009, 04:02 AM

I could not agree with you less if I tried on this one.
Many big companies or established ones these days seem to be looking for creative ways not to pay.
But then again at the same time turn out cookie cutter garbage on mass, sending joins to outdated members areas and killing rebills.
I find many of the smaller programs work harder to make the sale and retain the meber not to mention they actually pick up the phone and answer Emails.
Sorry no disrespect on this one but I think your original statement was only self serving and not an observation.

selena · 04-10-2009, 05:42 AM

Shortly after I started in adult, I made the decision to go revshare with what I judged to be quality companies instead of chasing PPS. At times, I've salivated over annoucements over big payout days, but looking back, especially with today's state of affairs, I made the right decision for me.

To this day, my primary promotional efforts center on a handful of companies, and while some of them are a little larger now (eg kinky dollars), they weren't when I started with them, and they are not some large, 100 site mega program.

My personal favorite sites to promote are niche ccbill sites. I'd promote them all day long. The only downside of some of those programs is getting access to content for gallery building.

Farang · 04-10-2009, 05:44 AM

Times like these got me doing lines like these............................................. ..................

polish_aristocrat · 04-10-2009, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

You fucking seo spammer

BVF · 04-10-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

You mean the ones that fuck everyone?

You fucking seo spammer

Somebody had their oatmeal pissed in yesterday....He came raw straight out of the gate.

»Rob Content« · 04-10-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Feels like bumpy times for a lot of the smaller sponsors these days. I am having to fight for some money from a couple smaller ones. Which is a shame because I like promoting the sites of smaller and newer sponsors some times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=898091

And again it isn't that small sponsors are bad..with doing micro niche stuff I have long been a supporter of small sponsors but these days for me to risk signing up for one they *have* to be ccbill for me to feel comfortable.

Sarah you said a couple of small ones, you've only named one, which is the other?

I think it's also doing a great service to let people know which sponsors are not paying....

BV · 04-10-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Somebody had their oatmeal pissed in yesterday....He came raw straight out of the gate.

Yeah, I just get fucking tired of the bullshit.

Title went from "well established sponsors", to "smaller sponsors" in the post. What a crock of shit!

I'm not afraid to voice my opinion. I could give a fuck about the "Bro Club" and doing cross sells with them and fucking SEO spammers clogging up Google with the highest scammy PPS sponsors they can find that fuck customers with cross sells and all the other bullshit.

Fuck them all!

Cheers,
BV

Agent 488 · 04-10-2009, 11:38 AM

noticed some - non ccbill - programs playing funny with the payments as of late.

04-09-2009, 06:09 AM	#1
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Times like these if feels good to promote well established sponsors Feels like bumpy times for a lot of the smaller sponsors these days. I am having to fight for some money from a couple smaller ones. Which is a shame because I like promoting the sites of smaller and newer sponsors some times. Particularly when I am trying to find micro niche sites. It is feeling a bit more risky now though. It has been ages since I had to worry about getting paid by sponsors when I sign up but that is starting to come into play with me. As a result I am finding myself going back to my well established sponsors. Yes, I am talking about sponsors such as Max Cash but not just us. It feels like when I am building a hardcore site where it isn't too 'micro nichey' that I am reaching for the people that have paid me on time for years. Anybody else find themselves doing the same sort of thing?

04-09-2009, 06:19 AM	#2
HookUPcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boulder, Colorado USA Posts: 1,235	I can certainly respect that... My last girl friend could never work for a small company, it was too stressful for her. She felt safe in big corporate. She went from IBM to AG Edwards and liked it at that level. On the other hand, one of my best friends is a Venture Capitalist. He raises millions of dollars of other people's money to then invest in small companies that he feels he can help. J. __________________ HookUP \| Adult Dating icq: 364-320-971

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Sands Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 418194907 Posts: 3,134	It's definitely a rocky period for smaller sponsors as there are declines on all fronts. Although, I would think that smaller sponsors, by virture of their size, would be able to turn on a dime in business terms and quickly take advantage of any profitable avenues that present themselves during this downward trend.

04-09-2009, 10:19 AM	#9
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	Nope. The biggies are more likely to convert worse and fuck your surfers, old school style There's a few "newer" programs that are plenty big that will run your surfers through the credit card gauntlet. (use the GFY search unless it's broken). But no payment at all is risk for sure with new programs. Nice to know if they flounder there will be guys waiting to snatch them up (same ones the love to charge members multiple times) and hopefully will make good on the payments. Something not discussed is smaller quality programs might be more flexible to change. Less overhead and saturation. They would have less fat to trim that comes with a fast forced downsizing of a large business. But being a lone gunman in this business you get to pick your poisons.

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,452	Yup, these days its re-assuring to send joins to those we know have the financial backing to make those payouts WG __________________ I play with Google.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	This thread is so full of bullshit. Big sponsors suck, over saturated, many more reasons to fuck you. Most small Micro Niche sponsors are with CCBill and YOU NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING PAID BY CCBILL So take this thread and shove it where the sun don't shine because it's TOTALLY BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!! Stick to your dumbass useless threads that you usually make. Don't try and slander smaller companies. If your not getting paid by smaller companies then they are not too small if they are in charge of their own payouts!

04-09-2009, 06:06 PM	#31
Scott Jack Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 104	What sponsors fucked you for money? I think as someone new in the industry I would rather find out which sponsors didn't pay you in the second paragraph then read a MaxCash plug. Everyone knows you guys are established lol so why keep telling us all that? __________________ My ICQ is 390-467-288 Send me message if you have celebrity partner accounts or daily plugs available.

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JimmiDean Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Margarittaville Posts: 3,433	I could not agree with you less if I tried on this one. Many big companies or established ones these days seem to be looking for creative ways not to pay. But then again at the same time turn out cookie cutter garbage on mass, sending joins to outdated members areas and killing rebills. I find many of the smaller programs work harder to make the sale and retain the meber not to mention they actually pick up the phone and answer Emails. Sorry no disrespect on this one but I think your original statement was only self serving and not an observation. __________________ My God there's Porn on here! Still on the Beach !!! Last edited by JimmiDean; 04-10-2009 at 04:04 AM..

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selena Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On The Edge Posts: 7,992	Shortly after I started in adult, I made the decision to go revshare with what I judged to be quality companies instead of chasing PPS. At times, I've salivated over annoucements over big payout days, but looking back, especially with today's state of affairs, I made the right decision for me. To this day, my primary promotional efforts center on a handful of companies, and while some of them are a little larger now (eg kinky dollars), they weren't when I started with them, and they are not some large, 100 site mega program. My personal favorite sites to promote are niche ccbill sites. I'd promote them all day long. The only downside of some of those programs is getting access to content for gallery building. __________________ ~ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art ~The MetArt Network ~ selena.delgado9

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	noticed some - non ccbill - programs playing funny with the payments as of late.