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Old 05-07-2009, 08:55 AM   #351
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So this is a person who works with Shap to create fake drama on the board to "play" us all.

Shap you know I respected you man, but this is even below your standards.
LMAO leave it to Rob to solve the misteries of the world... You're a funny dude kiddo
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It's old and you guys doing this now is like mock spitting in the face of a lot of GFY'ers.

Play it how you want, but this is not a big plus for the Twistys team.
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Nothing to be confused about.

Ciao Bella works for shap, or is friends or whatever. This is all made up to try and "play" GFY and used as a marketing ploy.

Now that it's backfired a bit and people think it was done in bad taste Bella is acting like they still hate each other.

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That pretty fucking gay. Shap proves once again that he is an idiot.
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What a bunch of BITCHES Webmasters are when someone does try to be creative.

But hey, go back to doing what you were doing, bitching about tubes and your sales/money being down. That seems to be working out great for 99% of you.
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That pretty fucking gay. Shap proves once again that he is an idiot.
Tell me why would I want a thread about my shit being hacked? How do I benefit? Your post just proved you sir are the idiot.
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What a bunch of BITCHES Webmasters are when someone does try to be creative.

But hey, go back to doing what you were doing, bitching about tubes and your sales/money being down. That seems to be working out great for 99% of you.
The truth is this guy came out and attacked us. I was able to find out information narrowing down who i thought it was. Once he knew I knew he changed his tone and took the easy out the gfy tool shed gave him by saying it was all planned by me. Unbelievable. I've spent the past 48 hours busting ass trying to locate this little cunt and a bunch of idiots here think i staged this.
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The truth is this guy came out and attacked us. I was able to find out information narrowing down who i thought it was. Once he knew I knew he changed his tone and took the easy out the gfy tool shed gave him by saying it was all planned by me. Unbelievable. I've spent the past 48 hours busting ass trying to locate this little cunt and a bunch of idiots here think i staged this.
People with a clue know you didn't.
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The truth is this guy came out and attacked us. I was able to find out information narrowing down who i thought it was. Once he knew I knew he changed his tone and took the easy out the gfy tool shed gave him by saying it was all planned by me. Unbelievable. I've spent the past 48 hours busting ass trying to locate this little cunt and a bunch of idiots here think i staged this.
I truly don't think you staged this. If you did it would have had a smooth 'marketing' ending, rather than.. how it did end.

I have worked with Swift many times and I don't care who the client is, I don't think they would allow this. No host would. For sure not one of the best hosts, security wise, in the Business.
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That is roughly 8-10% of GFY
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Damn .. so many posts since last night!!!


OMG .. I think I understand whom this guy is. Could it be a disgruntled ex employee back from the days when Shaps office was on Spadina?

Could it be this simple ?
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OMG .. I think I understand whom this guy is. Could it be a disgruntled ex employee back from the days when Shaps office was on Spadina?

Could it be this simple ?
Actually no. Our ex-employees generally don't hate us. For those who don't work with us any longer it's usually for the best not only for us but for them as well.
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LMAO leave it to Rob to solve the misteries of the world... You're a funny dude kiddo
You have proven time and again you are 100% bro, and always avoided the questions at hand when uber bro'ing with Sleazy during it all. Zero respect is owed to you.
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You have proven time and again you are 100% bro, and always avoided the questions at hand when uber bro'ing with Sleazy during it all. Zero respect is owed to you.
What is the question at hand kiddo? that you just yet again made a fool of yourself with your dumbass assumptions???

And about respect, I have it from the people I need it from and who are important to me...
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Actually no. Our ex-employees generally don't hate us. For those who don't work with us any longer it's usually for the best not only for us but for them as well.
Oh my bad then ... Some of the hints left behind lead me to believe that.


Hope you find this pisher, and give him what he deserves ..

On another subject .. We're due for a Chat Shap .. it's been too long since we've worked together!!
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I am thinking without the bots ;-)
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I have to admit, there sure seems to be rampant stupidity running through this thread. I can't believe you guys are falling for this.
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I care less about the situation to be honest.

Either way it plays out I am still cool with Shap, and I know he would bend over backwards and take it deep for his affiliates, and in this day and age that's important.
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Damn this thread have 11k views.Cant remember when was last thread with somuch views.
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What is the question at hand kiddo? that you just yet again made a fool of yourself with your dumbass assumptions???

And about respect, I have it from the people I need it from and who are important to me...
That was a long time ago, you were easy to avoid lots of things asked, it's the bro way, and what works for the bros.

Being called a dumbass from someone who thinks people who make threats are not a threat says enough already.
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I care less about the situation to be honest.

Either way it plays out I am still cool with Shap, and I know he would bend over backwards and take it deep for his affiliates, and in this day and age that's important.
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So this is a person who works with Shap to create fake drama on the board to "play" us all.

Shap you know I respected you man, but this is even below your standards.''


Make up your mind Rob, I am getting Dizzy reading you

But I must admit I finally agree with you Shap does do a lot for his affiliates ;-)
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Damn this thread have 11k views.Cant remember when was last thread with somuch views.
I wonder how many views it would have been without Shap himself replying here.

To be honest I think this thread would have died after page 2.
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damn this thread moves fast .. LOL ..

nothing like drama to brighten up a rainy day
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So this is a person who works with Shap to create fake drama on the board to "play" us all.

Shap you know I respected you man, but this is even below your standards.''


Make up your mind Rob, I am getting Dizzy reading you

But I must admit I finally agree with you Shap does do a lot for his affiliates ;-)
It's called comprehension, you seem to lack it and have a one dimensional thought pattern, it's probably part of that half french thing you have going on.

I will spell it out, if this was a ploy by shap, then yes it makes me respect him less.

BUT, when it comes to doing business, and taking care of his affiliates shap is 100% on the ball, and that does matter.

Those are two highly separate things. How much I personally respect someone has zero to do with how they treat their affiliates. If it's making you dizzy because you think my respect level for Shap has an outcome on how he treats his affiliates maybe you need to take some time to rethink things. Maybe adult conversation is not good for you.

Because for some reason it appears that you think me saying I may respect shap less would make him go "man Rob don't respect me, I'm going to stiff my affiliates now!"

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It's called comprehension, you seem to lack it and have a one dimensional thought pattern, it's probably part of that half french thing you have going on.

I will spell it out, if this was a ploy by shap, then yes it makes me respect him less.

BUT, when it comes to doing business, and taking care of his affiliates shap is 100% on the ball, and that does matter.

Those are two highly separate things. How much I personally respect someone has zero to do with how they treat their affiliates. If it's making you dizzy because you think my respect level for Shap has an outcome on how he treats his affiliates maybe you need to take some time to rethink things. Maybe adult conversation is not good for you.

Because for some reason it appears that you think me saying I may respect shap less would make him go "man Rob don't respect me, I'm going to stiff my affiliates now!"

lol
Have you ever heard of the K.I.S.S system, maybe you should read about it Rob

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Alright, so I just spoke to Shap, and it appears this is not a ploy, but more so Shap found out who this dude is, and it's changed things up a bit.

I myself don't agree with some things Shap does, but we've had a lot of long talks in the past, and I believe him when he tells me something.

So I am man enough to say sorry to Shap for making the assumption it was a play.
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Who in their right mind would consider something like this has been staged for publicity? Even worse, what kind of person would believe it?
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Who in their right mind would consider something like this has been staged for publicity? Even worse, what kind of person would believe it?
I know. This place scares the crap out of me at times.
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I am not putting words in your mouth, just going by things you have said in this thread.

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You said it right there.
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is it 4 20 anywhere in the world yet???

this thread needs some ganja to liven things up a bit

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Being called a dumbass from someone who thinks people who make threats are not a threat says enough already.
Thanks Man. Honestly I've never been about fake drama and probably never will. First is probably because I'm not that creative. Second because I don't like misleading people. I have a tough time not being honest. People may not always agree with what I say but I'm always straight up and honest.

In this case I was stringing along Ciao Bella and playing his game hoping he'd slip up. Behind the scenes we were working around the clock to make sure he was in fact not on any of our servers and to try to pinpoint who he was and try to get a name and address. Lucky for us as we were finishing up our security audit he slipped up just like we hoped he would. He slipped up and confirmed exactly who we thought he was. From there you can see his posts changed immediately. He went from the weird double wanna be italian talk to regular english. He went from attacking us to being in on it with us. Everything changed late yesterday afternoon. Nowhere will you see me saying that this was planned by us. That's ridiculous. Anyone reading my posts can see I started by agreeing with him and indulging him and playing his game and then I started dropping hints to him letting him know I know who he is. The worst thing you can do is tell a hacker to go fuck themselves. You have to play their game and keep them entertained or they will make your life an absolute nightmare.

At the end of the day I really hope this is the end of his games with us. Thanks to his slip ups I know a lot more about who he is, where he lives and what his true identity is. His best bet is to just disappear right now and hope nothing happens to any of my servers since he's already taken responsibility for anything that happens in the future.
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I wonder how many views it would have been without Shap himself replying here.

To be honest I think this thread would have died after page 2.
I agree. Luckily my replies (for the first time ever) led to a breakthrough in our search for this guy.
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I sure hope this isn't fake. Taunting hackers, who always love a challenge, isn't very wise. Play with fire and you're gonna get burned.
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Shap - can you please tell us a brief summary of who he is (ex-employee, ex-contractor, etc), and why he has a beef with you? It would clear things up for those of us who are now addicted to this thread like the OJ trial Thanks!
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Shap - can you please tell us a brief summary of who he is (ex-employee, ex-contractor, etc), and why he has a beef with you? It would clear things up for those of us who are now addicted to this thread like the OJ trial Thanks!
Sure.
5 years ago I had a forum on BigBreastLovers.com. The forum was quite large. We had 30,000 members and it was really rocking. At that time Twistys was our focus. It was the pivotal time for Twistys. So we didn't spend any time on the forum. In fact we neglected it. We had 3 forum members that we made moderator. One of the was a guy named Ranger. He was very hard working and insanely dedicated. Unfortunately things got a little out of hand. With Twistys needing our full attention and us feeling concentrating on Twistys was a better long term move we decided to close the forum down.

Anyhow that's the guy. I never once mentioned Ranger in any posts. Nobody would know who Ranger was unless you came across him on the surfer boards he was on. Needless to say somehow Ciao Bella knows who Ranger is and even mentioned him in his post today.

So that's who this is. We closed our board down in November 2004. Bought Zilla in December 2004 and 2 days after we bought Zilla Ranger came out of the wood work with new nicks guns a blazing. He's been on and off toying with us since. He obviously feels we screwed him when we shut the board down.
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You got knocked the fuck out! Nigga!

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Sure.
5 years ago I had a forum on BigBreastLovers.com. The forum was quite large. We had 30,000 members and it was really rocking. At that time Twistys was our focus. It was the pivotal time for Twistys. So we didn't spend any time on the forum. In fact we neglected it. We had 3 forum members that we made moderator. One of the was a guy named Ranger. He was very hard working and insanely dedicated. Unfortunately things got a little out of hand. With Twistys needing our full attention and us feeling concentrating on Twistys was a better long term move we decided to close the forum down.

Anyhow that's the guy. I never once mentioned Ranger in any posts. Nobody would know who Ranger was unless you came across him on the surfer boards he was on. Needless to say somehow Ciao Bella knows who Ranger is and even mentioned him in his post today.

So that's who this is. We closed our board down in November 2004. Bought Zilla in December 2004 and 2 days after we bought Zilla Ranger came out of the wood work with new nicks guns a blazing. He's been on and off toying with us since. He obviously feels we screwed him when we shut the board down.
Wow, if that's the case this guy is a total looney tune.
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I am not putting words in your mouth, just going by things you have said in this thread.

I'm glad you can make funny comments and entertain yourself.



You said it right there.
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Sure.
5 years ago I had a forum on BigBreastLovers.com. The forum was quite large. We had 30,000 members and it was really rocking. At that time Twistys was our focus. It was the pivotal time for Twistys. So we didn't spend any time on the forum. In fact we neglected it. We had 3 forum members that we made moderator. One of the was a guy named Ranger. He was very hard working and insanely dedicated. Unfortunately things got a little out of hand. With Twistys needing our full attention and us feeling concentrating on Twistys was a better long term move we decided to close the forum down.

Anyhow that's the guy. I never once mentioned Ranger in any posts. Nobody would know who Ranger was unless you came across him on the surfer boards he was on. Needless to say somehow Ciao Bella knows who Ranger is and even mentioned him in his post today.

So that's who this is. We closed our board down in November 2004. Bought Zilla in December 2004 and 2 days after we bought Zilla Ranger came out of the wood work with new nicks guns a blazing. He's been on and off toying with us since. He obviously feels we screwed him when we shut the board down.
damn ... question .. so how much of his " threats" could of been actually seen through? does he really have the talent and knowlege he claims?
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damn ... question .. so how much of his " threats" could of been actually seen through? does he really have the talents he claims?
I've personally seen first hand how easy a script and server can be hacked. Luckily I have the right people on staff that can show me that

I don't know to what level his talents are. I believe they are sufficient to possibly above average.

Could his threats have been seen through? I don't know. We host with the best host for security Swiftwill. Everybody who knows swiftwill (both webmasters and hackers) will agree to that. We feel quite confident that our stuff was very secure. My main concern was some of our older stuff that we hadn't monitored. Which is why in a way this thread was good as it has forced us to do a complete audit and really beef up security.

Ok I'm off now guys. Hopefully this thread will be gone when I'm back Time to hit the gym.
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what a cry baby, he was a mod and he was canned so hes upset?
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