The Most Complete MMA Fighter - The Last Emperor

[Anthony]

I'd love to see Fedor take apart either Mir or Lesnar.

[d-null]

Fedor is tough as nails, there is no doubt

[Deej]

the heaviest hitter Ive ever seen. For sure heaviest hitter on the ground.

[cess]

Originally Posted by Deej

the heaviest hitter Ive ever seen.

Tim sylvia wasn't expecting that. He didn't hit Fedor once. Then after the fight Tim said "I've never been hit that hard in my life".

Really I don't care to see Mir or Brock fight Fedor, the only slight reason I do is to watch dana white cry. Josh Barnett has a better chance at beating Fedor than Mir or Brock. IMO Mir got a bit lucky against noguira because of a few reasons. Mir's last fight with Brock wasn't all that impressive either.

Brock hasn't done anything to deserve the title, the UFC has been lacking in the HW division. Beating up an old man who was never that great (randy couture). People liked Randy because he won fights he shouldn't have not because he was a badass that whipped everyone. Brock Lost to Mir not that long ago. He beat heath herring which a bunch of people have. Heath got rocked and pretty much gave up, if I had a nickel for everytime he put on a crappy performance like that I'd be rich.

Neither of those guys are anything amazing. Maybe one day though. I think both would get KOd in the first against Shane Carwin. I would love to see Shane fight either one.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by cess

Tim sylvia wasn't expecting that. He didn't hit Fedor once. Then after the fight Tim said "I've never been hit that hard in my life".

Really I don't care to see Mir or Brock fight Fedor, the only slight reason I do is to watch dana white cry. Josh Barnett has a better chance at beating Fedor than Mir or Brock. IMO Mir got a bit lucky against noguira because of a few reasons. Mir's last fight with Brock wasn't all that impressive either.

Brock hasn't done anything to deserve the title, the UFC has been lacking in the HW division. Beating up an old man who was never that great (randy couture). People liked Randy because he won fights he shouldn't have not because he was a badass that whipped everyone. Brock Lost to Mir not that long ago. He beat heath herring which a bunch of people have. Heath got rocked and pretty much gave up, if I had a nickel for everytime he put on a crappy performance like that I'd be rich.

Neither of those guys are anything amazing. Maybe one day though. I think both would get KOd in the first against Shane Carwin. I would love to see Shane fight either one.

Its crazy to see him take people to the ground and you can damn near feel the hits through the ground just watching it

[Drake]

Great vid. I like his workout routines. Lots of unorthodox training methods which I think mimic real life fighting situations better than, say, using simple weights.

[cess]

Originally Posted by Mike33

Great vid. I like his workout routines. Lots of unorthodox training methods which I think mimic real life fighting situations better than, say, using simple weights.

Yeah I love the whole hitting the tire with a sledge hammer over and over. You know a bunch of other fighters are watching that like... "WTF? Man I'm doing it wrong."

[Danny B]

Thanks for the video. 10 minutes well spent.
Fedor is a monster. I'll put my money on Fedor if he's ever going to fight Lesnar.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by Danny B

Thanks for the video. 10 minutes well spent.
Fedor is a monster. I'll put my money on Fedor if he's ever going to fight Lesnar.

without a doubt

If for some strange freak reason lesnar won, it would be a HUGE upset in the fighting world

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by cess

Yeah I love the whole hitting the tire with a sledge hammer over and over. You know a bunch of other fighters are watching that like... "WTF? Man I'm doing it wrong."

Using a sledge hammer on tires have been a staple for MMA fighters and Boxers for a very long time. It mimics throwing the over hand right/left. Hell it's great for any punch for that matter.

[cess]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Using a sledge hammer on tires have been a staple for MMA fighters and Boxers for a very long time. It mimics throwing the over hand right/left. Hell it's great for any punch for that matter.

Strange I've seen quite a few major MMA fighters train and never saw anyone else do it. Even a good amount of full training videos.

[Phil]

I think he is Russian ;)

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by cess

Strange I've seen quite a few major MMA fighters train and never saw anyone else do it. Even a good amount of full training videos.

You haven't seen everyone train. Sledgehammer work gives you great explosiveness.

Not everyone does it, just like not every one trains in BJJ, doesn't mean no one does it.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

I think he is Russian ;)

Yes, old friend, he is.

[NickB.]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I'd love to see Fedor take apart either Mir or Lesnar.

im surprised he didnt kill anyone yet in the ring

[d-null]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

I think he is Russian ;)

I think he is Ukrainian ancestry.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

I think he is Russian ;)

I hereby declare that should the sport of MMA continue to grow, a superior American MMA fighter will be born...

[d-null]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

I think he is Russian ;)

interesting picture of a fight from some years back of his brother

[cess]

Now for something fucking creepy

[Deej]

Originally Posted by cess

Now for something fucking creepy

that truly is disturbing. The wink makes me shudder....

[cess]

Originally Posted by Deej

that truly is disturbing. The wink makes me shudder....

Not the only time it's happened...

[Phil]

Originally Posted by d-null

I think he is Ukrainian ancestry.

based on kis last name he is, but who cares. if it was that way there woulnt be any american fighters.

[cykoe6]

Fedor is a monster. Greatest fighter ever.

[notoldschool]

Fedor is a monster for sure, but take apart Mir? He would take Lesnar apart for sure, but Mir? I find that hard to believe. You forget Mir would not have many losses at all if he didnt crash his motorcycle. His stand up skills are REALLY GOOD now, and he has top level BJJ for a HW. I think Fedor is the best because he knows HOW to win. Hes not the best boxer, wrestler, or BJJ guy. Hes just a winner who takes advantage in the exact time its needed. But take apart Mir? I dont know.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by cess

Not the only time it's happened...

Im disturbed

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Fedor is a monster for sure, but take apart Mir? He would take Lesnar apart for sure, but Mir? I find that hard to believe. You forget Mir would not have many losses at all if he didnt crash his motorcycle. His stand up skills are REALLY GOOD now, and he has top level BJJ for a HW. I think Fedor is the best because he knows HOW to win. Hes not the best boxer, wrestler, or BJJ guy. Hes just a winner who takes advantage in the exact time its needed. But take apart Mir? I dont know.

I'd like to bring up the fact that Fedor took apart Minotauro at his peak to win the PRIDE Belt.

Mino at his peak would have destroyed Mir.

[nitroy2k]

nice nice i really liked it

[John-ACWM]

Thanks for sharing,very inspirational video

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

based on kis last name he is, but who cares. if it was that way there woulnt be any american fighters.

I'm pretty sure Fedor was born in the Ukraine and moved with his family at a very young age to Russia.

[JustDaveXxx]

Anthony always finds the good stuff.


My little brother 2 years ago to my left with no shirt. He trains with Erik Paulson and Josh Barnett. He is fighting smokers and killing people right now.

[jakethedog]

some buddy gonna getta hurt reaaal bad ..

[d-null]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

based on kis last name he is, but who cares. if it was that way there woulnt be any american fighters.

you are correct, but as far as who cares, it is just as important to mention the Ukrainian genetics when it comes to one of the greatest fighters of all time

just like they say "african-american" when describing an extremely fast 100 meter sprinter that is american now

[Deej]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Fedor is a monster for sure, but take apart Mir? He would take Lesnar apart for sure, but Mir? I find that hard to believe. You forget Mir would not have many losses at all if he didnt crash his motorcycle. His stand up skills are REALLY GOOD now, and he has top level BJJ for a HW. I think Fedor is the best because he knows HOW to win. Hes not the best boxer, wrestler, or BJJ guy. Hes just a winner who takes advantage in the exact time its needed. But take apart Mir? I dont know.

I dont know if youre a big fan of mir or what, but seriously?

You sure you dont want to rethink this WHOLE statement?

I mean really it is pretty much laughable.

Dont get me wrong, Mir is good, But I seriously doubt hes Fedor good.

[Vitasoy]

Fedor.. best fighter ever!

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Deej

I dont know if youre a big fan of mir or what, but seriously?

You sure you dont want to rethink this WHOLE statement?

I mean really it is pretty much laughable.

Dont get me wrong, Mir is good, But I seriously doubt hes Fedor good.

Please, your post shows how little you know about either fighter. Im not a huge Mir fan, I just understand a little more than you about what it takes to fight maybe. Mir has TOP level BJJ, and is VERY quick with it for a HW. Mir has greatly improved boxing as he has been training it hard latley. Have you ever seen Mir NOT dominate, other than when he boozed it up after crashing and almost being killed. Your fooling yourself by watching a highlight video. LOL. I love Fedor and all but he has almost lost to a ton of weaker fighters, even much lighter fighters like Lindland. Look at what arvloski did to Fedor.
Like i said, Fedor is great, and very well might beat mir, but beat him down, I doubt. Mir is a beast and only the ignorant would say otherwise.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Please, your post shows how little you know about either fighter. Im not a huge Mir fan, I just understand a little more than you about what it takes to fight maybe. Mir has TOP level BJJ, and is VERY quick with it for a HW. Mir has greatly improved boxing as he has been training it hard latley. Have you ever seen Mir NOT dominate, other than when he boozed it up after crashing and almost being killed. Your fooling yourself by watching a highlight video. LOL. I love Fedor and all but he has almost lost to a ton of weaker fighters, even much lighter fighters like Lindland. Look at what arvloski did to Fedor.
Like i said, Fedor is great, and very well might beat mir, but beat him down, I doubt. Mir is a beast and only the ignorant would say otherwise.

Im not basing my thoughts on a highlite video. I have seen plenty of both fighters. Youre all about mir because of youre love for BJJ... nothing else would make anyone say that.

Fedor is pretty well versed on the ground as well. Quite frankly what i feel is Mir cant take the punishment that fedor would deliver.

PLain and simple.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Deej

Im not basing my thoguhts on a highlite video. I have seen plenty of both fighters. Your all about mir because of your love for BJJ... nothing else would make anyone say that.

Fedor is pretty well versed on the ground as well. Quite frankly what i feel is Mir cant take the punishment that fedor would deliver.

PLain and simple.

LOL. He handled being pounded by a much bigger fighter against Lesnar being very calm and tapping him, the same way Fedor does. Can you point to a single fight where he didnt handle a beating? LOL. you prove your just a new fan who really knows none of Mir and his history of fights. Im not loving Mir at all, you on the other hand are loving on Fedor awfully hard to call a top level fighter like Mir a walk over. Mir also had a much better finish over some of the same fighters that Fedor has beaten.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

LOL. He handled being pounded by a much bigger fighter against Lesnar being very calm and tapping him, the same way Fedor does. Can you point to a single fight where he didnt handle a beating? LOL. you prove your just a new fan who really knows none of Mir and his history of fights. Im not loving Mir at all, you on the other hand are loving on Fedor awfully hard to call a top level fighter like Mir a walk over. Mir also had a much better finish over some of the same fighters that Fedor has beaten.

He got his ass whipped by Ian Freeman, who is hardly a top level fighter, and he didn't look particularly good in either fight against Wes Sims, although he looked downright awful in the 2nd Sims fight. The only reason he won the 2nd Sims fight was because Sims' cardio was worse than his, and all those fights were before the motorcycle crash.

You're giving Mir entirely too much credit for beating a very shot looking Big Nog, who was out on his ass against Heath Herring and should have been finished if Herring would have jumped on him and pounded him out, and was being dominated for 2 rounds by Tim Sylvia before the fight hit the ground in the 3rd...

[AAB]

Did you really put Lesnar in the same sentence with Fedor? WTF???

[Phil]

Originally Posted by d-null

just like they say "african-american" when describing an extremely fast 100 meter sprinter that is american now

thats different. thats just being black.
I never heard anyone saying that "goal scored by Greek-American Chris Chelios" or great jump by Russian-American Nastya Lukina.

[Deej]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

LOL. He handled being pounded by a much bigger fighter against Lesnar being very calm and tapping him, the same way Fedor does. Can you point to a single fight where he didnt handle a beating? LOL. you prove your just a new fan who really knows none of Mir and his history of fights. Im not loving Mir at all, you on the other hand are loving on Fedor awfully hard to call a top level fighter like Mir a walk over. Mir also had a much better finish over some of the same fighters that Fedor has beaten.

He didnt take much from lesnar, and was/is way more skilled than lesnar.

Lesnar was new and just wanting to explode. If you notice, ever since his fight with mir he has gotten better and definitely watches his feet now. NOt giving lesnar any credit as I think hes a gimmick, but like the above poster, youre giving mir too much credit.

He IS good. I just dont think he stands up to Fedor.
What I cant understand is why youre not putting fedor up above mir.

Again is must be your love for BJJ...

[Phil]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Look at what arvloski did to Fedor.

what did he do? If you watch enough of his fights you would know that he always starts out that way making his oponents comfortable. WE all know what happened after that. besides, being SAMBO master is just about the same as BJJ black belt. Same shit but sideways. Ground defense with out weapon. Locks, chokes.. same as BJJ. j

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

what did he do? If you watch enough of his fights you would know that he always starts out that way making his oponents comfortable. WE all know what happened after that. besides, being SAMBO master is just about the same as BJJ black belt. Same shit but sideways. Ground defense with out weapon. Locks, chokes.. same as BJJ. j

Fedor also has a very short training camp, if I remember correctly, a month for the Arlovski fight due to a film.

Not taking away from AA, he's an awesome fighter, but he wasn't ready for Fedor.

I would put AA over Mir anyways.

I still have the memory of Mir getting his ass handed to him by Brandon Vera. Hell, the beating he took from Pe Da Pano, a BJJ guy who has zero standup.

[Deej]

notoldschool... you were saying....

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Fedor also has a very short training camp, if I remember correctly, a month for the Arlovski fight due to a film.

Not taking away from AA, he's an awesome fighter, but he wasn't ready for Fedor.

I would put AA over Mir anyways.

I still have the memory of Mir getting his ass handed to him by Brandon Vera. Hell, the beating he took from Pe Da Pano, a BJJ guy who has zero standup.

I don't know, he looked very good, especially after that fight he had before Fedors. remember I told you that Arlovski was back and I would like to see him fighting Fedor. No match for Fedor but he was good. Just got to cocky I think. I don;t buy it for a moment that Fedor didn't plan that kind of trap. He's way too smart.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Deej

He IS good. I just dont think he stands up to Fedor.
What I cant understand is why youre not putting fedor up above mir.

Again is must be your love for BJJ...

Didnt i say that Fedor would propably win? I only said that you put Fedor TOO far above Mir. Where Mir is NOW, Fedor would have a harder time than he did with Arvloski or any of the middle weight or powder puff freaks he fought in Japan ever would. I actually think Fedor is the best HW in the world and would beat most on any given night, not because hes the best at any one thing, but he is the best of taking advangtage of fighters weaknesses at just the right moment. He is one of my favorite fighters for sure, but no walking through mir at this time. He would handle Lesnar easy for sure because he fights guys like him ALL the time.

[d-null]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

thats different. thats just being black.
I never heard anyone saying that "goal scored by Greek-American Chris Chelios" or great jump by Russian-American Nastya Lukina.

they might not say that, but there is no doubt that the information is known and considered

[Big Red Machine]

Everytime I think Fedor may be out classed ....he knocks the shit outta the guy

[Phil]

Originally Posted by d-null

they might not say that, but there is no doubt that the information is known and considered

by who? those of same race/background only? Let me say this, Im Russian myself, and if I ever mention to some people here in Texas that Lukina is "Russian" I would get my ear full with shit about "she's american... we gave her freedom and opportunity".. trust me.Now if she was a "good old Irish boy" that never been to Ireland and drank beer on St Patty day it would be all kosher..