Adult Dating Conversions Going to Hell? - GoFuckYourself.com

Vin · 05-11-2009, 01:38 PM

Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

markethustler · 05-11-2009, 01:47 PM

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

Sosa · 05-11-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by markethustler

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

Must have some nice targetted traffic there. Goodjob

polish_aristocrat · 05-11-2009, 01:53 PM

what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.

May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

Vin · 05-11-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by markethustler

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

You've got same great traffic there buddy! Congrats.

We already promote them, but their conversion has been decreasing as well. Not as much as the rest, but as well.

Not sure if you're promoting Fling, SexSearch and Friendfinder as well. But I'd like to know how their conversion is for you with targeted traffic like yours.

P.S. We've done a review of XXXBlackbook a while ago, and I have to say their website is top notch. Blows the competition away by far. Plus their team as great!

_Richard_ · 05-11-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vin

Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

have you tried Free Trials for your Dating traffic? We pay on all free signups ;)

Vin · 05-11-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.

May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

Actually SexSearch is our biggest client, Friendfinder comes in 2nd followed by fling and blackbook.

But it seems SexSearch is in the biggest downfall conversion wise.. but you're not experiencing that?

O MARINA · 05-11-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.
.

My info is below for anyone who has questions about the program

TritonJL · 05-11-2009, 02:04 PM

What type of billing options are you offering them? I know before we had Lava Life come on board with us , they had the same questions as you. Have you looked at Billing Mobile/Land Line?

^^^ Marina , can I email you a few questions as well?

O MARINA · 05-11-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TritonJL

^^^ Marina , can I email you a few questions as well?

yeah - of course

brassmonkey · 05-11-2009, 02:08 PM

mine are ok

TritonJL · 05-11-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

yeah - of course

Sent ya one!

Rico2009 · 05-11-2009, 03:09 PM

You should definitely try sexinyourcity.com. We haven't been facing these issues.

Just hit me up on ICQ: 476746386

Sharky · 05-11-2009, 03:42 PM

You are seeing the same % drops across all of your dating sponsors? I haven't seen any evidence of this on our end overall, especially from PPC/SEO.

Are you already promoting PimpMansion / HornyMatches.com ?

KillerK · 05-11-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by markethustler

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

nice photoshop

KillerK · 05-11-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico2009

You should definitely try sexinyourcity.com. We haven't been facing these issues.

Just hit me up on ICQ: 476746386

Sorry but $35 per sale is a joke.

KillerK · 05-11-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.

May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

Agent 488 · 05-11-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

he doesn't promote them. he was just spamming for his internet gf.

Kristian · 05-11-2009, 09:56 PM

A 40% drop is HUGE. Overall stats are looking good for us. Personally speaking, last two days have been my best this month.

I'm not saying this so you join us (there are lots of other good sponsors in this thread, too) but you should honestly review your own stuff. Sounds like something is broken. Same thing happens to me all the time.

KillerK · 05-11-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

A 40% drop is HUGE. Overall stats are looking good for us. Personally speaking, last two days have been my best this month.

I'm not saying this so you join us (there are lots of other good sponsors in this thread, too) but you should honestly review your own stuff. Sounds like something is broken. Same thing happens to me all the time.

When you have 40% drops, what do you normally do and how is it fixed?

Diomed · 05-12-2009, 12:22 AM

I have been doing some tests lately,

and it does seem a lot slower.

The free joins remain consistent, but conversions are pretty relaxed right now.

I have been doing tests on SexSearch and Ulust for a minute now, and all of these inconsistencies are really making it difficult to gauge long term productivity. Especially if it isn't something customized.

I have also tried some ppc testing.. and all I can say is that this doesn't seem like a wise choice for adult dating in terms of conversions. I'm sure there are some good performing keywords but if your even slightly off the relativity of the subject with your kw's, you will get an ungodly amount of free joins that do not convert to paid

I'm just not used to waiting on sales to gauge productivity either, is there some kind of formula you can go by to ensure your not flying off into the red?

Kristian · 05-12-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

When you have 40% drops, what do you normally do and how is it fixed?

Well, DatingGold never sees 40% drops. That would be an impossibly huge amount. I promote every sponsor going even though I work for DG and DG is consistently my top sponsor and has been for about half a decade.

Having said that I experience drops myself but never as high as 40%. Since I probably promote is different ways to you its impossible for me to say how you can fix the problem. All I can suggest is that it must be something your end because 40% across the board is just too much for it not to be.

I remember experiencing a drop in sales when I was a noob. It turned out I'd forgotten to renew a domain lol

So...for the record I wasnt talking about Dg experiencing a drop in sales. I was talking about myself. It usually means I fucked up somewhere.

g$$$ · 05-12-2009, 01:16 AM

Give us a HOLLA and try Fling.com out!

Vin · 05-12-2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharky

You are seeing the same % drops across all of your dating sponsors? I haven't seen any evidence of this on our end overall, especially from PPC/SEO.

Are you already promoting PimpMansion / HornyMatches.com ?

Just added you on ICQ, let's talk.

Vin · 05-12-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

This has exactly been our problem as of lately, which is so weird because SexSearch has continued to BEAT every other sponsor for us. ..until a few weeks ago. Not sure what is going on over there..

But under 10 sales on 4k of PPC traffic is ridiculous. Free joins (our secondary KPI) have remained steady over the past weeks.

I'm ready to try some other offers.

voa · 05-12-2009, 02:45 AM

Hope will be better

polish_aristocrat · 05-12-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

he doesn't promote them.

I do

seeandsee · 05-12-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

nice photoshop

ajrocks · 05-12-2009, 07:45 AM

Overall we have not seen a decrease in conversion at all. There are always some affiliates that have conversions go down but we are pretty much on par or better then we converted 6 months ago. Try us out. Hit me up and I'll make a custom deal for you to try us.

O MARINA · 05-12-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

he doesn't promote them. he was just spamming for his internet gf.

Do you want to see screenshots of our internet relationship?

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I do

Rico2009 · 05-12-2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK

Sorry but $35 per sale is a joke.

Just hit me up on ICQ and we'll work something out.

That's only our beta phase payout.

pussyluver · 05-12-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by g$$$

Give us a HOLLA and try Fling.com out!

I've seen the same as most in that the free joins remain constant and the conversion to pay has gone to hell. In the case of Fling, it went to 1:6xx in one period to 1:2898 right now. THREE emails asking for support went unanswered. An email to the webmaster was replied to with "I'll get back to ya today". Never heard back.

My average on free to pay was about 1:13 to 1:18 for a long while on dating. Now 1:50 is more typical.

So the logical answer is spread the traffic around and see which two or three come up with the best stats.

pussyluver · 05-12-2009, 10:39 AM

BTW April 09 for Fling

1-15: did 1:636
16-30: did 1:2295 - it was near the end of the period that some joins saved a much worse stat which prompted the emails to ask for help and question for a possible problem with stats reporting.

I don't make a practice of posting sponsor stats on boards. Total lack of class and all.

I am aware that RK is an advertiser. I of course have screen shots saved.

Penthouse Tony · 05-12-2009, 11:50 AM

Hit me up if you need help pushing Adult FriendFinder.

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pussyluver · 05-12-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

Numbers TALK!!!!

LonelyWifeHookUp is the new dating site in Town and as taken Over conversions!!!!

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OK Jman, will give the new site a go for a few days and a portion of my dating traffic...

WatchingPorn · 05-24-2009, 01:00 AM

yeah mine is

WatchingPorn · 05-24-2009, 01:01 AM

or something

Diomed · 05-25-2009, 05:38 AM

I'm testing a couple of dating programs at the moment,

and I have noticed some very sharp contrast lately as well.

I was almost done with my sexsearch testing and right before I was about to take the plunge and really start sending it some traffic things got cut in half.

My free to paid ratio went from about 1:13 to 1:40.

The only reason it bothers me even a little bit is because how consistent it was before, I thought my feedback was solid enough to commit, and now I have to do more testing

IllTestYourGirls · 05-25-2009, 06:41 AM

I went from between 1/10 and 1/15 free with ulust to 1/480 last period. It is like all of a sudden free joins stopped.

Diomed · 05-25-2009, 07:34 AM

My 1:13 to 1:40 might not be accurate,

I think it's lower on both sides.

polle54 · 05-25-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by markethustler

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

Are these stats for real?

1:54 these days is kinda unique.. You can buy very expensive traffic and still do extremely well.

My best sponsor is loadedcash as well but my traffic is low end traffic so my stats are not comparable to yours.

Ramos · 05-25-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin

Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

Our programs are converting, very targeted sites/niches with great geo targeted tools and landing pages.
Give us a shot, I'll start you off at $40 per sale and we can go up from there.
Let's chat.

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Gay - GayDatingCash

polle54 · 05-25-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54

Are these stats for real?

1:54 these days is kinda unique.. You can buy very expensive traffic and still do extremely well.

My best sponsor is loadedcash as well but my traffic is low end traffic so my stats are not comparable to yours.

I see you are a spammer... just read his poast threads. My best guess is he never made one single sale.

05-11-2009, 01:38 PM	#1
Vin Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 165	Adult Dating Conversions Going to Hell? Hi, I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease. What are other people doing adult dating seeing? Thanks..

05-11-2009, 01:47 PM	#2
markethustler Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 53	You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below __________________

05-11-2009, 01:53 PM	#4
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	what sponsors are you promoting? I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns. May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

05-11-2009, 02:04 PM	#9
TritonJL Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary , Alberta , Canada Posts: 25	What type of billing options are you offering them? I know before we had Lava Life come on board with us , they had the same questions as you. Have you looked at Billing Mobile/Land Line? ^^^ Marina , can I email you a few questions as well? __________________ Increase Revenue by 30%. Bill by Mobile/Land - Customize Widgets. 900#s . Full NA Coverage. www.express-connect.com / www.tritonglobal.ca Banner coming soon!

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05-11-2009, 03:09 PM	#13
Rico2009 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 42	You should definitely try sexinyourcity.com. We haven't been facing these issues. Just hit me up on ICQ: 476746386

05-11-2009, 03:42 PM	#14
Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	You are seeing the same % drops across all of your dating sponsors? I haven't seen any evidence of this on our end overall, especially from PPC/SEO. Are you already promoting PimpMansion / HornyMatches.com ? __________________ Sharky

05-11-2009, 09:56 PM	#19
Kristian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,733	A 40% drop is HUGE. Overall stats are looking good for us. Personally speaking, last two days have been my best this month. I'm not saying this so you join us (there are lots of other good sponsors in this thread, too) but you should honestly review your own stuff. Sounds like something is broken. Same thing happens to me all the time.

05-12-2009, 12:22 AM	#21
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	I have been doing some tests lately, and it does seem a lot slower. The free joins remain consistent, but conversions are pretty relaxed right now. I have been doing tests on SexSearch and Ulust for a minute now, and all of these inconsistencies are really making it difficult to gauge long term productivity. Especially if it isn't something customized. I have also tried some ppc testing.. and all I can say is that this doesn't seem like a wise choice for adult dating in terms of conversions. I'm sure there are some good performing keywords but if your even slightly off the relativity of the subject with your kw's, you will get an ungodly amount of free joins that do not convert to paid I'm just not used to waiting on sales to gauge productivity either, is there some kind of formula you can go by to ensure your not flying off into the red? __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

05-12-2009, 01:16 AM	#23
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05-12-2009, 02:45 AM	#26
voa Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,532	Hope will be better

05-12-2009, 07:45 AM	#29
ajrocks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On Uranus Posts: 4,526	Overall we have not seen a decrease in conversion at all. There are always some affiliates that have conversions go down but we are pretty much on par or better then we converted 6 months ago. Try us out. Hit me up and I'll make a custom deal for you to try us. __________________ SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation Skype aj.durden1

05-12-2009, 10:39 AM	#33
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	BTW April 09 for Fling 1-15: did 1:636 16-30: did 1:2295 - it was near the end of the period that some joins saved a much worse stat which prompted the emails to ask for help and question for a possible problem with stats reporting. I don't make a practice of posting sponsor stats on boards. Total lack of class and all. I am aware that RK is an advertiser. I of course have screen shots saved.

05-12-2009, 11:50 AM	#34
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05-12-2009, 12:11 PM	#35
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05-24-2009, 01:00 AM	#37
WatchingPorn So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 55	yeah mine is

05-24-2009, 01:01 AM	#38
WatchingPorn So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 55	or something

05-25-2009, 05:38 AM	#39
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	I'm testing a couple of dating programs at the moment, and I have noticed some very sharp contrast lately as well. I was almost done with my sexsearch testing and right before I was about to take the plunge and really start sending it some traffic things got cut in half. My free to paid ratio went from about 1:13 to 1:40. The only reason it bothers me even a little bit is because how consistent it was before, I thought my feedback was solid enough to commit, and now I have to do more testing __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

05-25-2009, 06:41 AM	#40
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	I went from between 1/10 and 1/15 free with ulust to 1/480 last period. It is like all of a sudden free joins stopped. __________________

05-25-2009, 07:34 AM	#41
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	My 1:13 to 1:40 might not be accurate, I think it's lower on both sides. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION