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Old 06-01-2009, 08:48 PM   #1
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Surfers looking for amateur content not like high quality?

I have really been looking at stats over several years and expected to see the higher quality videos to be watched more often.

What I found was that they where still watching the grainy tiny off color bad lighting videos and hardly ever watching the higher quality videos.

Same with photos unless they where more glamor oriented.

Has anyone else seen this in the amateur niche?

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Old 06-01-2009, 08:56 PM   #2
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I have really been looking at stats over several years and expected to see the higher quality videos to be watched more often.

What I found was that they where still watching the grainy tiny off color bad lighting videos and hardly ever watching the higher quality videos.

Same with photos unless they where more glamor oriented.

Has anyone else seen this in the amateur niche?

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People want to believe It's "homemade" even though they know deep down that It's produced porn they want that boyfriend/girlfriend home filmed feel to it.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:01 PM   #3
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People want to believe It's "homemade" even though they know deep down that It's produced porn they want that boyfriend/girlfriend home filmed feel to it.
Yup I think ALL solo girls should either take webcam pics or self taken bathroom mirror pics from time to time to post in their members cause it makes that site way more personal then a solo girl site where the girl has shot 100 sets all in a week and never shot again.. surfers are smarter these days and can see the differences in these sites
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:07 PM   #4
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Personally...high-end glam does absolutly nothing for me.

No wonder Playboy is in the tanks while smaller, gritty amateur producers are probably doing pretty well right now.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:13 PM   #5
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So far it's like forget the studio lights and go back to the old bulky RCA VHS Camcorder that has a buzz in the audio.

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Old 06-01-2009, 09:28 PM   #6
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So far it's like forget the studio lights and go back to the old bulky RCA VHS Camcorder that has a buzz in the audio.

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people like both. They want to see you in high res but are happy to see you in what they call behind the scenes too.. If you can offer the perfect mix of both separated you will have happy rebilling members


haha i miss shooting home movies with gfs and the ex wife with the bulky VHS camcorder.. if i only knew then what i know now about ex gf porn
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:10 PM   #7
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People want the video to be clear, but they want the girl/action to appear raw and authentic.

Sometimes a lower quality video will make the girl appear better looking to the viewer. If she looks close to what he thinks is hot but it's not totally clear, I think the imagination fills in the rest. Similar to why girls can look super hot in myspace pics, your imagination fills in details.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:22 PM   #8
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People want the video to be clear, but they want the girl/action to appear raw and authentic.

Sometimes a lower quality video will make the girl appear better looking to the viewer. If she looks close to what he thinks is hot but it's not totally clear, I think the imagination fills in the rest. Similar to why girls can look super hot in myspace pics, your imagination fills in details.

mmm myspace girls are ALWAYS HOT!







and off myspace
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:26 PM   #9
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Personally...high-end glam does absolutly nothing for me.

No wonder Playboy is in the tanks while smaller, gritty amateur producers are probably doing pretty well right now.
Same here.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #10
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Another thing I am seeing in stats over the years is that the tours that look like they where created by an amateur are out selling the pro looking tours.

So far it's looking like you need to dumb down things in the amateur niche.

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:06 PM   #11
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So far it's like forget the studio lights and go back to the old bulky RCA VHS Camcorder that has a buzz in the audio.

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sorta what you have been doing since the day you started.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:39 PM   #12
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sorta what you have been doing since the day you started.
Exactly. What we where doing back in the late 90's seems to be the best. When we started using higher quality and pro designers sales started going down. When we started going back to the roots of amateur, sales started climbing again.

Guess some niches - higher quality does not equal higher sales.

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Old 06-02-2009, 05:40 PM   #13
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Yup, we launched HerBedroomWindow with a simple but still professionally outsourced design ... and frankly, it flopped. Conversions nowhere near the crappy designs I did myself for our other sites. So I just quickly threw together a barebones new tour and sales immediately spiked.
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:42 PM   #14
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and off myspace


so fucking old but still funny
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:43 PM   #15
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Its absolutely the truth and not just a recent trend that surfers looking for real amateur content will pass by the "produced porn" fake amateur content 90% of the time. They can spot the fake stuff instantly.
It amazes me that content producers cannot provide the real feel of true amateur/homemade content..they will say they have it but they don't, its all crap.

The so called "amateur" sites being released by the sponsors are a joke and so over produced they aren't even worth sending traffic to. Most solo girl sites fall into the same trap as they evolve over time and lose the appeal they had when they started.

You are making a huge mistake if you believe you are fooling the surfer or believe that even though they know its a really a porn star and not some real milf next door, it satisfies the desire they have, it doesn't.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:45 PM   #16
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:03 PM   #17
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:23 AM   #18
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I can see a HUUUUUUGE grow of income from all REAL amateur programs, for me it converts nearly as well as personality and solo sites
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:33 AM   #19
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That's where we come in :-)
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and off myspace
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:27 AM   #21
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People love the fact its "just another girl from the block" who is in reach, instead of a woman boning 3 guys a day for money.

The appeal it is.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:12 AM   #22
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They can spot the fake stuff instantly.
It amazes me that content producers cannot provide the real fee...
It's funny you say that. We have 100% ecological, home-grown real amateur content, sent by people, and we can't get much conversion of it. People are not going for it. Maybe it's not so demanded after all...
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There are a lot of sites out there that are making a killing with the real amateur stuff. But some of the amateur sites around here are using studio content as filler.
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It's funny you say that. We have 100% ecological, home-grown real amateur content, sent by people, and we can't get much conversion of it. People are not going for it. Maybe it's not so demanded after all...
Are you referring to the site in your sig?

No wonder it converts like shit, I just checked it out, you should re-think your plan.
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If I'm shooting amateur - amateur porn, I shoot it with my Canon Elph pocket cam and put away the softboxes and D300's...

Make it look amateur
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I just checked it out, you should re-think your plan.
Why is that ?
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