Abby Winters offices raided - Garion arrested - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

uno · 06-16-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

Yes it is true it has been brought up before and it blows my mind anyone promoted them after that. Further more he explained how to remove affiliate cookies in the members area forum bitching about how affiliates limit his (posted as a girl though) ability to make money.

Yeah, seriously, fuck them.

Oh, and fiddy.

nation-x · 06-16-2009, 12:03 PM

Garion made a statement: http://www.somebodythinkofthechildre...ues-statement/

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June 16, 2009 – 11:52 pm

The director of G Media, Garion Hall, has issued a statement about a police raid on his company this week.

Hall said yesterday morning (Monday 15 June, 2009) Victoria Police acted on a warrant to search the premises of the adult web business AbbyWinters.com. The raid was instigated by a tabloid journalist from the Herald Sun. The journalist has written about AbbyWinters.com in the past, trying to encourage authorities to act.

Hall said no charges have been laid by the police and that no hardware was seized. Police were supplied with copies of all information that they requested and they (the police) were polite and amiable.

He appreciates the support of Eros, staff, website members and models, and is hopeful of a successful outcome.

Eros Executive Officer, Fiona Patten, told me that Eros fully supports their long term member and their right to provide non-violent erotica.

Roald · 06-16-2009, 12:08 PM

well case closed guess?

At least they got some publicity out of it.

Agent 488 · 06-16-2009, 12:08 PM

you can go down the same way.

put aside your little differences and stop being such little bitches.

Agent 488 · 06-16-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

well case closed guess?

At least they got some publicity out of it.

i thought you were on holidays man.

Socks · 06-16-2009, 12:17 PM

I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

Roald · 06-16-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

i thought you were on holidays man.

killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))

Socks · 06-16-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))

hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

Have a good trip!

Roald · 06-16-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

Have a good trip!

You will get an email from one of the tech guys tomorrow morning about it.

Cheers!

Drake · 06-16-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

According to wikipedia Abby might just be a pseudonym used by Garion.

LiveDose · 06-16-2009, 01:15 PM

Very good reminder of how pathetic the people making and enforcing laws are. Imagine the amount of resources wasted on this nonsense...

aniloscash · 06-16-2009, 01:20 PM

I didnt know australia was so backwards live and learn a new thing everyday

Grapesoda · 06-16-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

GUNNER · 06-16-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

Abby = Garion

Yngwie · 06-16-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though

are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

nation-x · 06-16-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

*slurp* *slurp*

dyna mo · 06-16-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.

maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??

Rock It · 06-16-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GUNNER

hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

Abby = Garion

Another Classic. Remind sof the guy who had the argument with the bot and then came of GFY and said he owned the chick he was talking to not realizing it was a bot spamming him...lol

fris · 06-16-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though

they are nazis when it comes to affiliates, if you dont do 30 sales a week or something which you can do, they will cut you off.

A sale is a sale, but I guess they must write the checks by hand

V_RocKs · 06-16-2009, 05:31 PM

Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money. This is bullshit because there is no profit sharing with 98% of the girls on the site. Yes there are some that stick around like some FTV girls (allison, danielle,etc) but most of the girls are cash in hand paid a flat fee then told to bug off.

This is not stated to the members. I tried letting the members know this fact and that the advertisers that bring Abby Winters traffic are told one thing (you get rebills) and then given a different set of terms (you get your rebills canceled)... You (the surfer) would not know Abby Winters existed if it weren't for advertisers! So we are indeed giving Abby Winters massive exposure they would never have themselves and then we are getting screwed!

I got flamed for about 2 hours and then the reply was deleted and my account terminated.

Both affiliate and members... I asked why and they never gave me a reason.

A few years later I re-applied as my business and got accepted again. Made dozens of sales and NEVER one single rebill!

V_RocKs · 06-16-2009, 05:50 PM

Oops... make that 1 rebill for ever 25 signups...

Now look at rebills with other teen niche sponsors:

CCBILL (average) 1:1.5
Island Dollars 1:1.68
Jayman Cash 1:0.58
Lightspeed 1:1.2
Niche Money 1:1.3
Panchodog 1:1.1
Teen Revenue 1:1.7
Teen Dolls 1:3.4

Abby Winters 1:25

And people ask me all the time why I don't promote the site more? Dude, I am making blah blah.. and blah... and how many rebills? ohh... Only a couple... We compare the same traffic sent to other sponsors and I make 3 times as much...

V_RocKs · 06-16-2009, 05:59 PM

Oops Part II...

I just got my payment from them... I love them now. Watch me post several blog posts tonight!

NinjaSteve · 06-16-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money.

Whoa, talk about some shady shit!

Sausage · 06-16-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Is it illegal to produce porn in all of Australia or just a specific states or areas? I've never heard anything about it being illegal before this article.

Back when I was in Queensland it was illegal to shoot hardcore porn. Also illegal to host porn in aus, not like you would since the price is 10x what you pay for os hosting.

Sethseekstruth · 06-16-2009, 06:23 PM

Denied by someone? check my sig

Yngwie · 06-16-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??

in my opinion it would still be worth it in the long term. It's not like freeones is a small fish so they can produce high volumes so 70% is worth it in the long run. I would go into full details on how this would be beneficial to everyone involved, but I'm a little busy right now.

V_RocKs · 06-17-2009, 02:29 PM

Any sponsor that doesn't know Freeones traffic is heaven sent is a moron... Especially one that is going to tell the surfer to cancel and re-signup anyway.

PersianKitty · 06-17-2009, 02:46 PM

Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.

u-Bob · 06-17-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mutt

remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills

jimmy-3-way · 06-17-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PersianKitty

Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.

You already know you're special.

DaddyHalbucks · 06-17-2009, 07:17 PM

Do you think they will survive this?

Far-L · 06-17-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Do you think they will survive this?

My prediction is they will survive if the girl was not underage and maybe not if she was underage.

Any update on what is happening?

spacedog · 06-17-2009, 10:09 PM

Cash · 06-17-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley

the news blurb didn't say it was illegal to make porn, only illegal to make porn for profit

Yes, porn for charity

And the cops were satisfied with the content they got ... now they can jerk off for free in their police section

MrLuvr · 06-17-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

It might have been longer than 2-3 months ago actually.

I don't think I saw the original thread about him being killed. I came across a load of new stuff about him recently and it talked about suicide rumors in prison.

There's a load of pictures of him and his wife after their release on Flickr or somewhere like that and loads of blog stuff too.

Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina

Socks · 06-18-2009, 12:23 AM

He looks like a nice enough guy... (galitsin)

VicD · 06-18-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

Interesting though

I tried to become an affiliate several times but no luck, maybe better this way...

flashfire · 06-18-2009, 12:49 AM

if they are shooting under age they deserve to get taken down

TheDA · 06-18-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrLuvr

Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina

Yes, that was some of the stuff I had seen.

JanuarySeraph · 06-18-2009, 02:20 AM

That totally fucking blows.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-18-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills

Assuming that's really true, jail's a good place for him.

V_RocKs · 06-19-2009, 02:52 PM

It is a little thing I like to call GFY magic...

Start a thread. Bash a program. And get results.

Just got an Abby Winters rebill!

I think I am going to spend it on some Korbel!

06-16-2009, 12:08 PM	#53
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06-16-2009, 01:15 PM	#61
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06-16-2009, 01:20 PM	#62
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06-16-2009, 06:23 PM	#75
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06-17-2009, 02:46 PM	#78
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06-16-2009, 12:08 PM	#54
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	you can go down the same way. put aside your little differences and stop being such little bitches.

06-16-2009, 12:17 PM	#56
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail. Anyone know if she's still involved in the business? And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

06-16-2009, 05:31 PM	#70
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	Abby Winters is a pseudonym. In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money. This is bullshit because there is no profit sharing with 98% of the girls on the site. Yes there are some that stick around like some FTV girls (allison, danielle,etc) but most of the girls are cash in hand paid a flat fee then told to bug off. This is not stated to the members. I tried letting the members know this fact and that the advertisers that bring Abby Winters traffic are told one thing (you get rebills) and then given a different set of terms (you get your rebills canceled)... You (the surfer) would not know Abby Winters existed if it weren't for advertisers! So we are indeed giving Abby Winters massive exposure they would never have themselves and then we are getting screwed! I got flamed for about 2 hours and then the reply was deleted and my account terminated. Both affiliate and members... I asked why and they never gave me a reason. A few years later I re-applied as my business and got accepted again. Made dozens of sales and NEVER one single rebill!

06-16-2009, 05:50 PM	#71
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	Oops... make that 1 rebill for ever 25 signups... Now look at rebills with other teen niche sponsors: CCBILL (average) 1:1.5 Island Dollars 1:1.68 Jayman Cash 1:0.58 Lightspeed 1:1.2 Niche Money 1:1.3 Panchodog 1:1.1 Teen Revenue 1:1.7 Teen Dolls 1:3.4 Abby Winters 1:25 And people ask me all the time why I don't promote the site more? Dude, I am making blah blah.. and blah... and how many rebills? ohh... Only a couple... We compare the same traffic sent to other sponsors and I make 3 times as much...

06-16-2009, 05:59 PM	#72
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	Oops Part II... I just got my payment from them... I love them now. Watch me post several blog posts tonight!

06-17-2009, 02:29 PM	#77
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	Any sponsor that doesn't know Freeones traffic is heaven sent is a moron... Especially one that is going to tell the surfer to cancel and re-signup anyway.

06-17-2009, 07:17 PM	#81
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06-18-2009, 12:23 AM	#86
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	He looks like a nice enough guy... (galitsin)

06-18-2009, 12:49 AM	#88
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	if they are shooting under age they deserve to get taken down

06-18-2009, 02:20 AM	#90
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06-19-2009, 02:52 PM	#92
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,392	It is a little thing I like to call GFY magic... Start a thread. Bash a program. And get results. Just got an Abby Winters rebill! I think I am going to spend it on some Korbel!