How Can Stallworth Only Get 30 Days For DUI Manslaughter ?!?! - GoFuckYourself.com

Slick · 06-16-2009, 10:14 AM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...I-manslaughter

Ok, the max penalty for DUI manslaughter is 15 years, but he pleads guilty and gets 30 days, WTF ?!?! It says he agreed to a financial settlement with the family, they probably got a few million from him, but still, you can get drunk, jump behind the wheel and kill someone and only get 30 days ??? That just doesn't make sense.

Is it just me or does that seem totally fucked up ???

RRACY · 06-16-2009, 10:28 AM

They cared more about money than justice.

candyflip · 06-16-2009, 10:29 AM

That kids who was an actor in the show Prison Break killed someone drunk driving and did a bit more time than that. Like 18 months maybe.

BradM · 06-16-2009, 10:29 AM

I guess if you're going to kill people, kill them while drunk and with your car. Lesson learned kids this is the new way to murder people.

beerptrol · 06-16-2009, 10:31 AM

If you got the money, you can pretty much do what u want and get a slap on the wrist. he should have got 15 years

shimmy2 · 06-16-2009, 10:35 AM

sounds like the fam got its palms greased, more solace for them to live well than to see him locked the fuck up

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 10:39 AM

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Stallworth faced 15 years in prison. After his release from jail, Stallworth must serve two years of house arrest and spend eight years on probation.

Stallworth also must undergo drug and alcohol testing, will have a lifetime driver's license suspension and must perform 1,000 hours of community service. Lyons said after five years, Stallworth could win approval for limited driving such as for employment.

30 days is pretty light but coupled with all that for a first offense plus having to cough up several million to the victim's family... all I can say is there better not be ANY type of second offense with this guy. If he fucks up again in any way he's sure to get something scary like at least a whole YEAR behind bars.

He'll keep his career in the NFL.

Tom_PM · 06-16-2009, 10:44 AM

HE IS A PRO ATHLETE.

Period.

He probably could have had a pound of cocaine on him too and gotten off with a fine.

They all do. It's sickening.

SilentKnight · 06-16-2009, 10:45 AM

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He'll keep his career in the NFL.

Yeah, but now a chauffeur will drive him to the games.

Brent 3dSexCash · 06-16-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...I-manslaughter

Ok, the max penalty for DUI manslaughter is 15 years, but he pleads guilty and gets 30 days, WTF ?!?! It says he agreed to a financial settlement with the family, they probably got a few million from him, but still, you can get drunk, jump behind the wheel and kill someone and only get 30 days ??? That just doesn't make sense.

Is it just me or does that seem totally fucked up ???

Apparently, the guy he hit was also had alcohol in his system, so it wouldn't have been a slam dunk conviction had it gone to trial.

Tom_PM · 06-16-2009, 10:53 AM

Maybe not, but consider if it were you. You hit, AND KILLLLLLLLLLLLL, someone while you're drunk in your car. Do you think you could plead guilty and get 30 days? ok then. No need to play around with it. He got off because he is a professional athlete.

ExtremeBank_Adam · 06-16-2009, 10:55 AM

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle cited Stallworth's lack of previous criminal record, cooperation with police and willingness to accept responsibility as factors in the plea deal. Rundle also said the Reyes family - particularly the victim's 15-year-old daughter - wanted the case resolved to avoid any more pain.

"For all of these reasons, a just resolution of this case has been reached," Rundle said.

None of the Reyes family attended the hearing. Their attorney, Rodolfo Suarez, read a statement saying the family wants to "bring closure to this emotional and tragic event." Suarez was not immediately available to comment after the hearing.

scuba steve · 06-16-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

He got off because he is a professional athlete.

100% agreed, its disgusting. thats the system down here though...

Tom_PM · 06-16-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle cited Stallworth's lack of previous criminal record, cooperation with police and willingness to accept responsibility as factors in the plea deal. Rundle also said the Reyes family - particularly the victim's 15-year-old daughter - wanted the case resolved to avoid any more pain.

"For all of these reasons, a just resolution of this case has been reached," Rundle said.

None of the Reyes family attended the hearing. Their attorney, Rodolfo Suarez, read a statement saying the family wants to "bring closure to this emotional and tragic event." Suarez was not immediately available to comment after the hearing.

"willingness to accept responsibility" huh? Then go to JAIL!

Pipecrew · 06-16-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

HE IS A PRO ATHLETE.

Period.

He probably could have had a pound of cocaine on him too and gotten off with a fine.

They all do. It's sickening.

Have you ever seen an NFL players card? the ones the nfl players carry if they ever get in trouble? If you read the back, it basically asks police officers to use discretion and call a certain number. Your basically getting all kinds of free shit to let players go.

marketsmart · 06-16-2009, 11:07 AM

read the law.. the guy that got killed was contributory/negligent because he was jaywalking.

in florida thats grounds for the alcohol to not be factored in the same way it would be if he drove up on the sidewalk and killed someone..

i believe they are trying to have that law changed..

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

read the law.. the guy that got killed was contributory/negligent because he was jaywalking.

in florida thats grounds for the alcohol to not be factored in the same way it would be if he drove up on the sidewalk and killed someone..

i believe they are trying to have that law changed..

Hey man, don't use facts and the law around here. The mob wants to believe the fix was in, they're not interested in your damn facts or laws.

There's also the fact that

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After his release from jail, Stallworth must serve two years of house arrest and spend eight years on probation.

Stallworth also must undergo drug and alcohol testing, will have a lifetime driver's license suspension and must perform 1,000 hours of community service

Yeah, a guy died and that's tragic, but it was an accident, the other guy was at least partly at fault, and the family was fine with the deal.
People always want to cry about victim's rights or the rights of their families when they want to throw the book at a guy....but nobody seems to care about what the family wants when the family realizes it was an accident and wants to go easy on the guy.

Mob mentality, isn't it fucking great?

Tom_PM · 06-16-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Have you ever seen an NFL players card? the ones the nfl players carry if they ever get in trouble? If you read the back, it basically asks police officers to use discretion and call a certain number. Your basically getting all kinds of free shit to let players go.

No I havent, but I dont doubt it for even a second.
I would go to jail, I would not get to pass go, I would not collect 200 dollars.

But I've never taken a dime of unemployment, never a dime of welfare, no free government cheese. I take some personal pride and try not to leech off anyone for anything. And I'd be thrown in jail so fast with no bail or chance of parole because nobody gives a shit and I couldnt pay people enough to let me out.

Also, most prosecutors dont NEED a victoms family to give a shit, they prosecute FOR THE PEOPLE.. they'd LIKE a victims family to want the same thing, but they generally dont give a single shit about it if it's a case they want, they take it!

Tom_PM · 06-16-2009, 11:36 AM

Hey maybe they let 10 other people go for running over jaywalkers too this year. Where's the stats on that? Maybe the fact he's a known athlete doesnt matter? Lets see the numbers I guess.

crockett · 06-16-2009, 11:44 AM

It's all in how much money you have these days. That dude Billy Lane that had the Custom Bike show on Discovery killed someone while drunk. I think he is going to get away with it too as they have already dropped several of the charges.

junction · 06-16-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

If you got the money, you can pretty much do what u want and get a slap on the wrist. he should have got 15 years

Vince Neil

Penthouse Tony · 06-16-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash

Apparently, the guy he hit was also had alcohol in his system, so it wouldn't have been a slam dunk conviction had it gone to trial.

Pedestrian's can't drink and walk?

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 12:12 PM

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Pedestrian's can't drink and walk?

They can't drink and jaywalk.

Stallworth was driving under the influence, but he wasn't speeding, or running a red light, or anything like that.

I haven't studied the case closely but considering the deal, it's likely that a sober driver wouldn't have been able to not kill this guy who ran out into the middle of the road.

Deesnuts · 06-16-2009, 01:04 PM

yah thats bullshit

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Stallworth was driving under the influence, but he wasn't speeding,

Says in the article he was doing 50mph in a 40 zone. On the highway 10 over wouldn't mean much but on city streets it's definitely speeding.

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Says in the article he was doing 50mph in a 40 zone. On the highway 10 over wouldn't mean much but on city streets it's definitely speeding.

Oh, well in that case he should get life in prison, hard labor, no possibility of parole. :rollseyes

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 01:34 PM

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Oh, well in that case he should get life in prison, hard labor, no possibility of parole. :rollseyes

Fuck you get all worked up sometimes. See my earlier post for christ sakes

I said 30 days seems a bit light but along with all the rest of what he got, well.... (as in, it's not as light as some might think)

However... if it was your dad that got smushed by some drunk driving idiot you would be calling for his HEAD, of that I have no doubt.

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Fuck you get all worked up sometimes. See my earlier post for christ sakes

I said 30 days seems a bit light but along with all the rest of what he got, well.... (as in, it's not as light as some might think)

However... if it was your dad that got smushed by some drunk driving idiot you would be calling for his HEAD, of that I have no doubt.

Well my dad is already dead, and it was his drunken-ness that did it to him.

So nah nah nah nah.

I didn't read all your posts, I only saw your reply to mine...and it looked like you were saying because he was doing 10mph over that all of my arguments were null, which would be pretty retarded.

S.A.K. · 06-16-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

They can't drink and jaywalk.

Stallworth was driving under the influence, but he wasn't speeding, or running a red light, or anything like that.

I haven't studied the case closely but considering the deal, it's likely that a sober driver wouldn't have been able to not kill this guy who ran out into the middle of the road.

I have followed this case fairly closely as my friend is a miami DA so I was interested to see what happend. Thanks for actually providing some sense to most of the others who dont know the circumstances. The fact is the victim darted out illegally into a major highway it wasnt a side street or whatever. Stallworth was over the limit and therefore was wrong but i dont think impaired greatly to where it was the reason for him hitting the guy. I beleive a sober person couldve just as easily hit this guy. If stallworth was sober this would be no case as the victim was in the wrong as well. I dont think many DA's in the country would want to try this case as I know my friend didnt.

pornguy · 06-16-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

30 days is pretty light but coupled with all that for a first offense plus having to cough up several million to the victim's family... all I can say is there better not be ANY type of second offense with this guy. If he fucks up again in any way he's sure to get something scary like at least a whole YEAR behind bars.

He'll keep his career in the NFL.

Yeah just like all the other celebs

sandman! · 06-16-2009, 01:52 PM

Non athletes have gotten the same before.

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Maybe not, but consider if it were you. You hit, AND KILLLLLLLLLLLLL, someone while you're drunk in your car. Do you think you could plead guilty and get 30 days? ok then. No need to play around with it. He got off because he is a professional athlete.

S.A.K. · 06-16-2009, 01:54 PM

Also another interesting case from south florida is the Jim Leyritz case that I would like to know some of your opinions on. Basics of the story leyritz was drunk and ran a red light and killed a driver who was also drunk but did nothing illegal besides being drunk. That case is still ongoing. The differnece in that case is that leyritz did break a traffic law by running the red light stallworth was going approx 10 over which is hardly a major traffic violation and with no assurance/evidnence that charge would never stand up in court.

sandman! · 06-16-2009, 01:55 PM

I have done 50 in a 40 probably 50% of the time i drive in a 40mph zone its considered normal in many places.

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Says in the article he was doing 50mph in a 40 zone. On the highway 10 over wouldn't mean much but on city streets it's definitely speeding.

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

I have done 50 in a 40 probably 50% of the time i drive in a 40mph zone its considered normal in many places.

You can be ticketed for it, thus it's speeding. In a DUI causing death case it very much WOULD be considered speeding, whether "everything thinks it's normal" or not.

sandman! · 06-16-2009, 02:03 PM

You can be ticketed for going 1 mile over the limit also.

Speeding is Speeding.

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

You can be ticketed for it, thus it's speeding. In a DUI causing death case it very much WOULD be considered speeding, whether "everything thinks it's normal" or not.

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

it looked like you were saying because he was doing 10mph over that all of my arguments were null, which would be pretty retarded.

You know me, I'm all about accuracy in one's argument. :D

(I didn't mention the rest of your arguments at all, just that one point)

I'll say this much --- at least this guy has money, and insurance. I'm sure there are plenty of cases where a family loses a loved one to a drunk driving moron and ends up getting very little to nothing in the way of compensation for their loss. I'm sure most families would rather have their dad/husband/brother etc back instead of money, but it's probably not the receiving a pile of cash that's the focus but more about penalizing further the person who did it.

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

You can be ticketed for going 1 mile over the limit also.

Speeding is Speeding.

I've gotten a ticket in the US for going 40 in a 30, and I know many others who have been ticketed for doing about the same elsewhere in the US, so I know people get tickets for it.

And like I'm trying to get through to you, in a case such as this the lawyers would be all over that 10 mph over while he was also over the limit. It would definitely work against him.

Why keep on arguing about it?

sortie · 06-16-2009, 02:23 PM

12 drunk driving convictions :

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...r_in_morr.html

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

You know me, I'm all about accuracy in one's argument. :D

(I didn't mention the rest of your arguments at all, just that one point)

I'll say this much --- at least this guy has money, and insurance. I'm sure there are plenty of cases where a family loses a loved one to a drunk driving moron and ends up getting very little to nothing in the way of compensation for their loss. I'm sure most families would rather have their dad/husband/brother etc back instead of money, but it's probably not the receiving a pile of cash that's the focus but more about penalizing further the person who did it.

Of course they'd rather have him back....but if he was the breadwinner, then I'm sure he'd rather see that his kids are taken care of financially than see the other guy who was just was wrong as he was do 15 years of hard time.

It's just funny to watch the mob get all riled up and try to make things black and white when they're actually very complex and nuanced.

In this case "oh the fix is in, he's a pro athlete, he bought his way out of it".

Kind of like the AIG bonuses. Another very complex issue, and the mob was all like "they're getting bonuses? that's our monies mother fucker!!!"

What're ya gonna do?

STAROTICA · 06-16-2009, 02:59 PM

Can?t these people.....and by ?these people? WHAT I MEAN IS......any sort of celebrity who makes $1/2 million dollars a year or more....afford a driver or at least call a cab.......

But when your ride is a 2005 Bentley......you can pretty much run over a FHP Trooper and get community service even as a habitual offender....If Vicks case wasn?t so heinous and that involved animals...he too would be doing 30 days with full reinstation into the NFL.

Money CAN buy you happiness????.but it cant buy you any brains!

CDSmith · 06-16-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Of course they'd rather have him back....but if he was the breadwinner, then I'm sure he'd rather see that his kids are taken care of financially than see the other guy who was just was wrong as he was do 15 years of hard time.

It's just funny to watch the mob get all riled up and try to make things black and white when they're actually very complex and nuanced.

In this case "oh the fix is in, he's a pro athlete, he bought his way out of it".

Kind of like the AIG bonuses. Another very complex issue, and the mob was all like "they're getting bonuses? that's our monies mother fucker!!!"

What're ya gonna do?

Agreed, but on the other side of it people are really just fed up with idiots getting drunk and then getting behind the wheel, and they're tired of hearing about such idiots killing someone's family member. Thus the anger towards the measly 30 day sentence.

I can understand that.

Of course in looking at the complete picture it's a slightly different story, and as you (and I) basically said at least the dead guy's family is compensated and then some for whatever earnings the guy would have made them.

Now if you'll excuse me I just put 10 shakes of tabaso on my chilifries, and am about to singe my taste buds. :D

Snake Doctor · 06-16-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Agreed, but on the other side of it people are really just fed up with idiots getting drunk and then getting behind the wheel, and they're tired of hearing about such idiots killing someone's family member. Thus the anger towards the measly 30 day sentence.

I can understand that.

Of course in looking at the complete picture it's a slightly different story, and as you (and I) basically said at least the dead guy's family is compensated and then some for whatever earnings the guy would have made them.

Now if you'll excuse me I just put 10 shakes of tabaso on my chilifries, and am about to singe my taste buds. :D

Remind me not to get into an elevator with you in the next week or so.

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Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	How Can Stallworth Only Get 30 Days For DUI Manslaughter ?!?! http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...I-manslaughter Ok, the max penalty for DUI manslaughter is 15 years, but he pleads guilty and gets 30 days, WTF ?!?! It says he agreed to a financial settlement with the family, they probably got a few million from him, but still, you can get drunk, jump behind the wheel and kill someone and only get 30 days ??? That just doesn't make sense. Is it just me or does that seem totally fucked up ???

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RRACY Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,393	They cared more about money than justice. __________________ Sig Free

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	That kids who was an actor in the show Prison Break killed someone drunk driving and did a bit more time than that. Like 18 months maybe. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	HE IS A PRO ATHLETE. Period. He probably could have had a pound of cocaine on him too and gotten off with a fine. They all do. It's sickening. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	I guess if you're going to kill people, kill them while drunk and with your car. Lesson learned kids this is the new way to murder people.

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shimmy2 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 3,243	sounds like the fam got its palms greased, more solace for them to live well than to see him locked the fuck up

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Maybe not, but consider if it were you. You hit, AND KILLLLLLLLLLLLL, someone while you're drunk in your car. Do you think you could plead guilty and get 30 days? ok then. No need to play around with it. He got off because he is a professional athlete. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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ExtremeBank_Adam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,671	Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle cited Stallworth's lack of previous criminal record, cooperation with police and willingness to accept responsibility as factors in the plea deal. Rundle also said the Reyes family - particularly the victim's 15-year-old daughter - wanted the case resolved to avoid any more pain. "For all of these reasons, a just resolution of this case has been reached," Rundle said. None of the Reyes family attended the hearing. Their attorney, Rodolfo Suarez, read a statement saying the family wants to "bring closure to this emotional and tragic event." Suarez was not immediately available to comment after the hearing. __________________ ExtremeBank.com, the EXTREME program for the Pornicate.com Network of sites: Naughty Alysha, Roxy Raye, Buddha Bang, Angie Noir, Fisting Sex, Extreme Ty & many more. Email: adam [at] extremebank.com \| ICQ: 331-797-412

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	read the law.. the guy that got killed was contributory/negligent because he was jaywalking. in florida thats grounds for the alcohol to not be factored in the same way it would be if he drove up on the sidewalk and killed someone.. i believe they are trying to have that law changed..

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Hey maybe they let 10 other people go for running over jaywalkers too this year. Where's the stats on that? Maybe the fact he's a known athlete doesnt matter? Lets see the numbers I guess. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	It's all in how much money you have these days. That dude Billy Lane that had the Custom Bike show on Discovery killed someone while drunk. I think he is going to get away with it too as they have already dropped several of the charges. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Deesnuts Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,792	yah thats bullshit __________________

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S.A.K. Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South Fla Posts: 619	Also another interesting case from south florida is the Jim Leyritz case that I would like to know some of your opinions on. Basics of the story leyritz was drunk and ran a red light and killed a driver who was also drunk but did nothing illegal besides being drunk. That case is still ongoing. The differnece in that case is that leyritz did break a traffic law by running the red light stallworth was going approx 10 over which is hardly a major traffic violation and with no assurance/evidnence that charge would never stand up in court.

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sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	12 drunk driving convictions : http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...r_in_morr.html __________________

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STAROTICA So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 1,079	Can?t these people.....and by ?these people? WHAT I MEAN IS......any sort of celebrity who makes $1/2 million dollars a year or more....afford a driver or at least call a cab....... But when your ride is a 2005 Bentley......you can pretty much run over a FHP Trooper and get community service even as a habitual offender....If Vicks case wasn?t so heinous and that involved animals...he too would be doing 30 days with full reinstation into the NFL. Money CAN buy you happiness????.but it cant buy you any brains!