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Old 06-24-2009, 07:33 AM   #1
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Court rules against German file-sharing site Finds Rapidshare.com violates copyright

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...eafd877858b3a1
"A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
Italy is considering doing something similar.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:37 AM   #2
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"A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
Italy is considering doing something similar.
Illegal shoud be illegal :D
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isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
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There is quite a bit of disparity as to whether there is a fine or not. Other sites are reporting - A German court has sided with copyright society GEMA against free file-hosting service Rapidshare, which must now monitor its site to ensure that some 5,000 songs are not posted for distribution on its servers.

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2009/06...y-filter-songs
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But your honor. I was only timehshifting my right to view. I swear!!!
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isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
I have no idea where they are Stefan. Just posting the latest news intel from newspapers.
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"A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
Italy is considering doing something similar.
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"In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers. "

The floodgates may have opened in Germany. France, Italy and Spain are probably going to be next. Once a few big countries get involved and set a precedent, there will be more to follow.

The US has been urging Spain to do the three strikes thing - even though they don't even have it in the US.
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I just inquired and if people try to get around an ISP ban using a proxy server, ALL the data you download actually gets passed through the proxy.. It has to download it, then upload it to you.. Twice the bandwidth on their part.. And so there will be no free proxy servers just based on costs.. So then you're looking at huge paid proxy services popping up from hosting companies I imagine.
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"In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers. "

The floodgates may have opened in Germany. France, Italy and Spain are probably going to be next. Once a few big countries get involved and set a precedent, there will be more to follow.

The US has been urging Spain to do the three strikes thing - even though they don't even have it in the US.
au contraire mo'fraire. gideongallery begs to differ.
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Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

I'll handle this for him:

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This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
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you do realize that my name is a b oardtracker alert
so you just basically called me to this thread

anyway rapidshare makes the file completely available so grokster ruling applys
the transaction they are support always has 1 infringement (sharing) even if the downloading is protected by fair use.

torrents however are different because you don't share a complete file
doesn't mean that the transaction is always non infringing just that it can be.
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This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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Au contraire mon Fraire.

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I have no idea where they are Stefan. Just posting the latest news intel from newspapers.
http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet...&lang=1&sort=0

here they are - 2 german guys
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Like you, I pay my taxes, my suppliers, my staff, my rent, etc.
I wish everybody would do that because the ones that don't do kill jobs/economy/the system.

Taxes in Holland will be lowered soon(!). Do you know why? They found & seized SO MUCH hidden money in offshore countries from Dutch people due to the latest tax treaties and revealing of bank secrets, that too much money is coming in. Go figure.

Looks like the old saying is becoming a reality; "You can run but you cannot hide".

Governments and laws are just starting to catch up with all the online tech stuff and that is going to be a new oppertunity for some and a downfall for others.

I truly hope the honest people will be rewarded in the end. I like happy endings (not just in a Thai massage parlour)
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Like you, I pay my taxes, my suppliers, my staff, my rent, etc.
I wish everybody would do that because the ones that don't do kill jobs/economy/the system.

Taxes in Holland will be lowered soon(!). Do you know why? They found & seized SO MUCH hidden money in offshore countries from Dutch people due to the latest tax treaties and revealing of bank secrets, that too much money is coming in. Go figure.

Looks like the old saying is becoming a reality; "You can run but you cannot hide".

Governments and laws are just starting to catch up with all the online tech stuff and that is going to be a new oppertunity for some and a downfall for others.

I truly hope the honest people will be rewarded in the end. I like happy endings (not just in a Thai massage parlour)
i agree 110%

even with the thai massage thing ;)
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Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

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This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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i agree 110%

even with the thai massage thing ;)
I never visited Czech. Let's change that soon Stefan.
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whenever you want, i am already here
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it's Déjà vu (already seen) not deja vous (not good french and would mean "already you?"...in Africa;0)
Déjà vu is pronounced with a "hard U" not "he english U sounding like the "ou of you"
"Mon frère" c'est correctement monsieur. Merci pour le correction.
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you do realize that my name is a b oardtracker alert
so you just basically called me to this thread

anyway rapidshare makes the file completely available so grokster ruling applys
the transaction they are support always has 1 infringement (sharing) even if the downloading is protected by fair use.

torrents however are different because you don't share a complete file
doesn't mean that the transaction is always non infringing just that it can be.
Im curious why you always stick up for the pirates
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Damn man, Czech rocks

MaDalton OK too
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This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>
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Im curious why you always stick up for the pirates
i just sided with the courts in this ruling and pointed out how torrents were different
by any unbiased point of view that would prove that i don't "always stick up for the pirates"

The question is why do you ignore all the times i say the court is right and claim that i "always stick up for pirates"
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Maybe right after Berlin? Are you going to Berlin this year?
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This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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Maybe right after Berlin? Are you going to Berlin this year?
i'd say 95% yes - not 100% sure though
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isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
The decision is the big thing. It establishes they are breaking laws. with Germany being one of the big guns in Europe expect more EU countries to follow.

The outcome of them being blocked is ess traffic, less advertisers and less profit.


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Be sure to look us up if you come to Brno.
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The decision is the big thing. It establishes they are breaking laws. with Germany being one of the big guns in Europe expect more EU countries to follow.

The outcome of them being blocked is ess traffic, less advertisers and less profit.




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what was your drink? JD/Coke?



i'd say 95% yes - not 100% sure though
Ok, let's talk about that around the Berlin show (timewise)
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Be sure to look us up if you come to Brno.
Good idea indeed. Let's do the full tour and all people there in Prague & Brno.

Oh, btw Paul, I spoke to somebody a while ago and he said that you said that nobody had resell rights for your content. Did you forget about our deal when Eva was in the hospital? I just did not had the time yet to put them on our site yet but we do have an agreement and a paid invoice. Just checking if you remember it.
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Good idea indeed. Let's do the full tour and all people there in Prague & Brno.

Oh, btw Paul, I spoke to somebody a while ago and he said that you said that nobody had resell rights for your content. Did you forget about our deal when Eva was in the hospital? I just did not had the time yet to put them on our site yet but we do have an agreement and a paid invoice. Just checking if you remember it.
He was wrong. the normal license does not include resale rights. It needs us to re license it to the new buyers.

You got a different license and paid a different price for it. You're fine.

Hit me up when you're coming, will miss Berlin this year. Not making any long term plans until the cancer is beaten and I'm back at work.

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He was wrong. the normal license does not include resale rights. It needs us to re license it to the new buyers.

You got a different license and paid a different price for it. You're fine.

Hit me up when you're coming, will miss Berlin this year. Not making any long term plans until the cancer is beaten and I'm back at work.
ok, thanks Paul.
I hope you beat the cancer soon.
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ok, thanks Paul.
I hope you beat the cancer soon.
Thanks Jack.

Got it on the run now and the future looks good, at the beginning it was not so rosy. Now all I need is radio therapy to beat it completely.
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