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Old 07-01-2009, 12:07 PM   #1
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Husband and Wife Porn Dealers Get Jail Time....

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529732,00.html

PITTSBURGH ? A husband and wife from California will each spend a year and a day in prison for distributing violent sex videos depicting simulated rape and murder.

Robert Zicari and Janet Romano also received two years of supervised release at sentencing Wednesday. They pleaded guilty in March to conspiracy to distribute DVDs purchased by an undercover U.S. postal inspector in Pittsburgh.

Zicari and Romano owned Extreme Associates Inc. of Northridge, Calif. The company distributed videos depicting violent sexual encounters.

Defense attorneys contested the government's claim that the material is "sadistic or masochistic" for sentencing purposes but that argument was denied.

Prosecutors say Zicari and Romano were full partners in the company.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:12 PM   #2
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:15 PM   #4
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who gives a shit unless they are hurting someone.

just more and more US work now being sent over seas
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:15 PM   #5
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I bet they never saw that one coming ...............
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:17 PM   #6
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:22 PM   #7
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So it's okay to show a rape on TV - or thousands of people dieing - but to sell a dvd displaying a fake rape is illegal?
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:27 PM   #8
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They had to add the one day so it will be prison time not county time. Ouch
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:29 PM   #9
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So it's okay to show a rape on TV - or thousands of people dieing - but to sell a dvd displaying a fake rape is illegal?
Only if the fake rape in question is shown for purposes of sexual gratification. If it's shown to increase the gore factor in a horror flick, on the other hand, it's perfectly legal.
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:56 PM   #10
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seems like they had a bad lawyer
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Old 07-01-2009, 12:59 PM   #11
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Only if the fake rape in question is shown for purposes of sexual gratification. If it's shown to increase the gore factor in a horror flick, on the other hand, it's perfectly legal.
I'd say that is very accurate.

I'm still in favor of not pushing any violent content even in the horror flick and
yet also aware that I am not the "moral police".
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:23 PM   #12
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seems like they had a bad lawyer
I don't know.

If someone is going against the "cultural tide" then having abstract law on their side
has often failed to help them.

Many interpretations of obscenity laws state that the "cultural tide" is what
will determine what is obscene. "community standards" is explicitly stressed as
a factor in those laws. The "community standard" will be set by the cultural tide
that has swept the community at the time of trial.

In simple words : When it comes to adult entertainment, if "the people" aren't ready
to see it then don't show it.

I'm not arguing what is "right"; I'm just stating what it is.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:24 PM   #13
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these guys basically asked for it. This case has been going on for a while. There was a story on (I think) Frontline about them where they basically dared the government to come after them. If you ask for the bull, sometimes you get the horns.

It is pretty stupid though. Everyone involved are consenting adults and it goes back to my belief that the community standard rule shouldn't be allowed to be used in cases involving the internet because there is no community involvement.

That said I think the way sentencing goes if they got 1 year they would have to serve at least 9 months of it. With 1 year and 1 day they can be eligible for parole a lot sooner.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:41 PM   #14
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They are probably getting some prison rape right now
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:49 PM   #15
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So it's okay to show a rape on TV - or thousands of people dieing - but to sell a dvd displaying a fake rape is illegal?
Sure thing, just don't put it in an envelope and you are fine
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these guys basically asked for it. This case has been going on for a while. There was a story on (I think) Frontline about them where they basically dared the government to come after them. If you ask for the bull, sometimes you get the horns.

It is pretty stupid though. Everyone involved are consenting adults and it goes back to my belief that the community standard rule shouldn't be allowed to be used in cases involving the internet because there is no community involvement.

That said I think the way sentencing goes if they got 1 year they would have to serve at least 9 months of it. With 1 year and 1 day they can be eligible for parole a lot sooner.
I agree
if you dare the government to come after you, expect them to come after you with both barrels.

The problem with this case is they were physically shipping tapes, so it wasn't an internet-based case.
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:07 PM   #17
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So it's okay to show a rape on TV - or thousands of people dieing - but to sell a dvd displaying a fake rape is illegal?
and you could go to amazon.com and order dozens of movies like that right now...
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:08 PM   #18
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Only if the fake rape in question is shown for purposes of sexual gratification. If it's shown to increase the gore factor in a horror flick, on the other hand, it's perfectly legal.
I was just reading some news article about the arrest of a pedophile with a stash of kid underwear catalogs...
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I know where they went wrong. Next time just put an explosion and some robots in the movie and call it Transformers.
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OH CRAP!! Soooo... If I order the Jodie Foster movie "The Accused" from NetFlix - is someone going to jail??

Actually, am I in trouble just for linking to that scene??
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What's crazy about Extreme Associates, is that if they had gone to trial and lost, they'd have done 4-5 times more jail time than they would if they had actually raped a girl.

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if you dare the government to come after you, expect them to come after you with both barrels.

The problem with this case is they were physically shipping tapes, so it wasn't an internet-based case.
Correct, but from what I understand the tapes were ordered from a website so in my eyes it is still the same. There is no community involvement. The only people that know you have that tape and are watching it is you and the people that sold it to you (and anyone you choose to tell or show)

But if you choose to challenge the government you better be ready for a huge fight.
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PITTSBURGH ? A husband and wife from California will each spend a year and a day in prison for distributing violent sex videos depicting simulated rape and murder.

Robert Zicari and Janet Romano also received two years of supervised release at sentencing Wednesday. They pleaded guilty in March to conspiracy to distribute DVDs purchased by an undercover U.S. postal inspector in Pittsburgh.

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I bet they never saw that one coming ...............
they pleaded guilty. i would say they did.
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Welcome to Obama's America.
This case has been going on for about 2 years now. long before Obama was in the white house.
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Thanks for proving over and over again how utterly and completely stupid you are.
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"these guys basically asked for it"

Right on, shit....they welcomed it from what I read.
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Right on, shit....they welcomed it from what I read.
The irony and hilarity of that statement, considering these were videos depicting rape, is mind boggling.
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