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Old 07-16-2009, 01:38 PM   #51
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where's my money?????????


(actually Ibill doesn't owe me any money but just in case they're handing out cash I do what I can to get some)
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:43 PM   #52
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:59 PM   #53
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:04 PM   #54
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First of all I am sorry I have not had time to answer all of your questions on this board, I have been busy over here, and again I am sorry about that.
At least two of us form iBiil do plan to attend the Internext-expo in Aug. I look forward to meeting you all and if anyone has any questions, I will do my best to answer them ASAP.

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What a crock of shit!
Let me get this right, you claim you were busy...blah, blah, now you seem to have the time to resond with an apology and toss in a plug that you and "Your Band Of Merry Men" will be at Internext-expo in Aug?

Why don't you respond to the questions you never seem to have time to answer? Or was starting this thread just another example of iBill's self serving BS.

Beings I have your attention and it appears that you have some spare time, I will go first!
I would like to know where my damn money is????
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:08 PM   #55
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this thread was useless without rodrigo but all is well now
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:20 PM   #56
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Our new program can integrate into any platform of your choice, There will be a demo of how this will work within the next few months.

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No bodyguards needed. Remember, I did not take anyone?s money nor did anyone that works here now. For those people who can?t read or do the research online to verify what I am saying is true, and are looking to cause problems at the show, please note, my well being will be well looked after.

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Read the past post, read the news at x-biz

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Old 07-16-2009, 02:35 PM   #57
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Our new program can integrate into any platform of your choice, There will be a demo of how this will work within the next few months.
Interesting, I look forward to seeing it.

Question ... what about the companies that have iBill stock?
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:50 PM   #58
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Rodrigo has just been make Presidente of Pubic Relatives at Ibills. If you have questions or contempts for me to answer, please contact [email protected]. I am happy to make solutions for everyone.

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Old 07-16-2009, 02:55 PM   #59
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Rodrigo has just been make Presidente of Pubic Relatives at Ibills. If you have questions or contempts for me to answer, please contact [email protected]. I am happy to make solutions for everyone.

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Old 07-16-2009, 02:59 PM   #60
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Rodrigo is the most serious thing about ibill.

Without him they are nothing.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:09 PM   #61
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Our new program can integrate into any platform of your choice, There will be a demo of how this will work within the next few months.

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No bodyguards needed. Remember, I did not take anyone?s money nor did anyone that works here now. For those people who can?t read or do the research online to verify what I am saying is true, and are looking to cause problems at the show, please note, my well being will be well looked after.

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Read the past post, read the news at x-biz

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NO, "YOU" answer the fucking question!
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:11 PM   #62
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again i ask

who the fuck do i talk to about getting my $?
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:12 PM   #63
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No bodyguards needed. Remember, I did not take anyone?s money nor did anyone that works here now.
It doesn't matter if you did. Nobody here will do ANYTHING to you other than bitch about it here. This is why thieves like you can get away with shit like this. Even better, you could probably even get away with doing it 3 or 4 more times under the same name!

Don't worry, most here will sign up and use you again. Give it time. It's impossible to flunk out of porn.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:15 PM   #64
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I used these guys for ACH only back in the day. I got fucked but not as bad as I could have if they were my CC processor.

now...

where is MY money?
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:26 PM   #65
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Taking that name and trying to revitalize it has to be the most STUPID marketing/business decision in the history of mankind. I cant believe I actually worked for that fucked up company. Jonas, you are a true fucking IDIOT
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:18 PM   #66
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Come on guys its obvious to a blind man that these guys at idiots. In their first ever post they said and i quote

"As you all know by now were back. I first want to say I am so sorry for everything that has happened to all the merchants who we worked with from 97 to 01 before iBill was sold to those crooks. No need to worry about them, they got what they deserved by the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission)".


Then in this thread this fool says

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Please go back and read the post. This is under different ownership. The old losers are gone. Most likely in jail
Today 08:51 AM"

So what is it are they in jail did the Securities Exchange do anything ?

It's all bull shit, to try to get people who are even more stupid to sign up. If you care about your money don't what ever you do open an account or you will never see it again...
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:20 PM   #67
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:29 PM   #68
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I'll say it again....

ANYONE who is dumb enough to trust the judgment or word of the person who "fought long and hard to get the Ibill name" and who keeps insisting the name has nothing to do with all the people who lost money is a FUCKING RETARD.

I mean what the fuck? "oh.. yeah, i call my youth group "The Hitler Youth" but you need to understand this has nothing to do with Hitler... it's just a name."

Are you fucking kidding me?

Seriously... trust this guy and you DESERVE to lose your money.

Right out of the gate, these guys scream "we're idiots" as if its a great selling point.
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:59 PM   #70
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No bodyguards needed. Remember, I did not take anyone?s money nor did anyone that works here now. For those people who can?t read or do the research online to verify what I am saying is true, and are looking to cause problems at the show, please note, my well being will be well looked after.
do you really think people are going to look at anyone at Ibill and not associate you with the people who stole millions from them even though everyone may be new?

wow just wow

btw I lost no money from Ibill. I used processors that actually paid so I have no real dog in this fight.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:15 PM   #71
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People will process with these fucks again, because this industry is full of stack hat wearing mugs. Nothing surprises me in adult anymore.

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It doesn't matter if you did. Nobody here will do ANYTHING to you other than bitch about it here. This is why thieves like you can get away with shit like this. Even better, you could probably even get away with doing it 3 or 4 more times under the same name!

Don't worry, most here will sign up and use you again. Give it time. It's impossible to flunk out of porn.
yep thats the sad truth.
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Do you have any information on the whereabouts of the principle operators of Etelegate for legal service? Home addresses, banks used, anything at all?
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you and me both!

On a side note..
Its funny how people talk shit on boards but when at shows don't say shit to people's faces..
I have no problem in giving you shit in person Alex! I'm just polite and don't give you shit on the boards.
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The companies owned stock in Internet Billing Company, We are iBill, Inc

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Rodrigo is not employed by iBill

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Do the research online and follow the trail.

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Taken the same name was not a bad idea at all. Come and visit me at the show and I will tell you why it was a golden chance.

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It started before Etelegate, It started with intercept. I don?t have any info on them. We are still searching for the locations of the former CEO
He might be living in a huge house in Iran
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First of all I am sorry I have not had time to answer all of your questions on this board, I have been busy over here, and again I am sorry about that. For everyone who has sent us emails, thank you, and for the people who signed up, we will not let you down. That for giving us a try.

At least two of us form iBiil do plan to attend the Internext-expo in Aug. I look forward to meeting you all and if anyone has any questions, I will do my best to answer them ASAP.

Thanks,

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Running a company with this name in adult industry is like running a kindergarden named after Michael Jackson. In a nutshell: fucking retarded.
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Running a company with this name in adult industry is like running a kindergarden named after Michael Jackson. In a nutshell: fucking retarded.
The comparison I used was starting an energy company by the name of Enron with the hopes of doing an IPO. Yours might be just as popular tho!
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The comparison I used was starting an energy company by the name of Enron with the hopes of doing an IPO. Yours might be just as popular tho!
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Have you noticed what he answered regarding NATS? I laughed my ass off. Ibill lives in a different world and have no idea about reality at all.
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It started before Etelegate, It started with intercept. I don?t have any info on them. We are still searching for the locations of the former CEO
He might be living in a huge house in Iran
God, will you STOP already? Isn't there anyone else there who can tell you what a bigger and bigger ass you sound like every time you post???
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Paul, according to an Xbiz article, 25 adult companies.
With their "privacy policy" they can say anything.
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Giving out the names of the sites we processes for will violate our privacy policy

We will be doing the paying out.

iBill is not using NATS, We are working on a more advance program that will surpass what NATS has to offer and would love to invite you all to our survey to help us understand your needs on this matter
It's not going to be very private when your name starts appearing on billing pages. So the "privacy policy" is bull shit. Why would the companies processing with you want to keep it private?

You will be paying out affiliates and expecting them to trust you to pay out?

So you will be losing all the big sponsors who are using NATS?

Here's another question and totally relevant as you are asking us to trust you with OUR money. We all know how hard and risky it is to start a new business in this economic climate.

How much money do you have backing you. Is it enough to run for a year without touching the money you're processing for others?

And please no bull shitting or evading the answer. You're asking people to trust you with their money we need to know you don't need our money to pay yourselves and keep your company running.

I doubt if you have that kind of backing and would need to see proof that you did have.Because the money you process is not yours, except for the rate you charge, it's our money and we will want to know what your reserves are.

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Yes, listening to them is the best thing you can do. Then look at the answers they give, the ones they don't and the ones they ignore Then make a cool business decision on whether this company is good enough to handle your money.

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Taking that name and trying to revitalize it has to be the most STUPID marketing/business decision in the history of mankind. I cant believe I actually worked for that fucked up company. Jonas, you are a true fucking IDIOT
And this business decision alone makes them very suspect as business men. If they will only give the answer to why they did it, in person again I'm suspicious. The reason needs to be posted everywhere. And even a fool knows that as soon as they tell people at the show it will be on the boards.
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He might be living in a huge house in Iran
Please provide GPS or Google maps coordinates of his compound.
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That pretty much sums it up. Why should I do the research when you thieves stole money from many of us?
You can't answer a simple fucking question, you Worthless fuck!

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what about my idea of starting a security company called "Gestapo"?
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I mean what the fuck? "oh.. yeah, i call my youth group "The Hitler Youth" but you need to understand this has nothing to do with Hitler... it's just a name."


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Are you fucking kidding me?
The amazing part is that this clown shows every indication of being quite serious.

Should be interesting to see if any flatliners actually sign up with these bozos.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:40 AM   #91
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The amazing part is that this clown shows every indication of being quite serious.

Should be interesting to see if any flatliners actually sign up with these bozos.
yeah, if its a prank, its working with the serious angle for sure.

People that have only been in the biz 5-6 years or whatever had no idea what Ibill was about.

Older people do and most were robbed.

The paradox of "the name" and going through the trouble to acquire and use it, is that there it is a HUGE negative to people who have been around and it has ZERO meaning to those who haven't. So for a rational mind, there was only a negative consequence (and a very substantial one as well) to using it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:58 AM   #92
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Rumors say that the guys from Myvirtualcard will be in the same Ibill boot
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Old 07-17-2009, 08:02 AM   #93
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I heard they are sharing with the new GLOBILL
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:39 AM   #94
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:03 AM   #95
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Ok one more time

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Old 07-17-2009, 12:26 PM   #96
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... By the way, I am absolutely not sure its OK to let Ibill announce/promote/whatever @ GFY. They should be banned permanently to prevent future issues.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:40 PM   #97
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... By the way, I am absolutely not sure its OK to let Ibill announce/promote/whatever @ GFY. They should be banned permanently to prevent future issues.
Great Idea!

And iBill!
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:53 PM   #98
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Personally i hope no one goes within 100 yards of their booth in August. If someone goes up to these fools and starts a fight all they will achieve is free publicity for Iballs. Shun the fiuckers, treat them as if they have the plague and post pictures of their empty booth on GFY
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:49 PM   #99
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... By the way, I am absolutely not sure its OK to let Ibill announce/promote/whatever @ GFY. They should be banned permanently to prevent future issues.
Not sure about that. They are posting and newbies are learning what Ibill did.

What people should do if they see someone talking to them is tell them to do some research.
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Old 07-18-2009, 02:10 AM   #100
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Not sure about that. They are posting and newbies are learning what Ibill did.

What people should do if they see someone talking to them is tell them to do some research.
Interesting point of view... Maybe they should have a different name-colouring and special avatar saying "owing dozens of companies with hundreds of thousands of dollars" :P And the avatar should link to a site with more details about it.
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