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Old 07-22-2009, 06:18 AM   #51
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The pirates are burning the papers and flee to tropic islands. Love this war
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:41 AM   #52
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You must stop trying to look stupid.

Only if I lose and only after wards. You would be risking thousands on a defense that coud easily be shown to be lies.

Your defense is going to get laughed out of court and you would be torn to shreds by a prosecuting attorney and could be found guilty of perjury. Stop trying to look stupid.

Now please as you're going down such a stupid road I will leave you to your fantasies.
paul you are not that stupid
it has worked already, the precedent has been set
in a case that the RIAA won, thousands of songs she bought/ripped were reduced to the 24 that she downloaded/without ripping herself.
It a bad case for the RIAA because it quite clear she is only appealing to knock down bogus precedents.
IF she really wanted to get off, she would have been arguing that she used kazza as a format shifting device.
That instead of spending hours hunting thru her cd collection to find the songs she downloaded (she bought them all BTW) hours ripping those songs to mp3 one cd at a time.
She simply clicked a couple of links and downloaded an mp3 formated one.
Fair use in the us does not care about the source. The source can be 100% illegal the fair use is still legal (and format shifting is 100% fair use).

She will knock down every bogus precedent and then finally make this arguement getting off scott free.
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Old 07-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #53
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you could buy the cd take the cover say you "lost" the cd, sell the cd to a second hand store.
you could borrow the cd from the library scan the cover claim you started doing that since a girl lost her house based on a threat and wanted to have a proof of backup ...

there are dozen of ways i could "pretend" this was for recovery.
That excuse might work with your mother. But in a court of law, you better convince a jury or judge that your excuse is true. The prosecutor could show evidence that you have a history of lying or you associate with pirates or that your story is inconsistent. It is not necessary to rule out any doubt that a person is guilty. It is only necessary to convince a judge or jury.

Gideon, you stated in another thread that you belive "fair use" rights allows you to make an unlimited number of redundant backups. You are very very mistaken if you think you have a legal right in all countries to make as many backups as you want with copyright protected material. "Fair use" does not mean "gideon can make as many backup copies as he wants and do whatever he wants with those copies". It's time for you to grow up.
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