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JFK · 07-21-2009, 01:00 PM

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u-Bob · 07-21-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NS_Gorilla

And all these misconceptions about Masonry is what fuels the flames of ignorance.

And is it not secrecy that fuels all the misconceptions?

LexiLexxx · 07-21-2009, 01:01 PM

wow, funny that this is brought up.

My grandfather & grandmother, would take me to these meeting's I had no idea what all was going on, as I played around with the other kids. I know it was a big thing for them as they went every week and dressed up alot, I still don't know why they were members.
Infact, it seemed like the rest of the family didn't mind that they went, so it is a good thing? No biggie, I just never figured out why they went and took me, lol.

Fletch XXX · 07-21-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

"Grand Architect" is not a term that is used in masonry,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_A...f_the_Universe

"As a designation it is used within Freemasonry to neutrally represent whatever Supreme Being to which each member individually holds in adherence."

great, grand, semantics.

Twistys Tim · 07-21-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

Each grand lodge has it's own by-laws - but the central tenets of masonry are secular.

Doesn't appear very secular to the casual observer.

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Freemasonry Supports Religion

Freemasonry is far from indifferent to religion. Without interfering in religious practice it expects each member to follow his own faith, and to place above all other duties his duty to God, by whatever name He is known. Its moral teachings are acceptable to all religions.

Freemasonry is thus a supporter of religion.

From the United Grand Lodge of England

xxxdesign-net · 07-21-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

"Grand Architect" is not a term that is used in masonry, but I understand what you're asking.

Unlike dogmatic religion, masonry specifically promotes the freedom of the mind. It's specific purpose is to promote philosophical thought on existence, values, "morals", personal choices, etc..

it's not a good day for wikipedia then..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_A...f_the_Universe

Maybe it's a term used in superior degrees

Fletch XXX · 07-21-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NS_Gorilla

I have to agree with you. And all these misconceptions about Masonry is what fuels the flames of ignorance. Every one is stuck on the whole "Supreme Being" and think that Masonry is about Religion..it is not. Because of the internet and ex-members who joind the Masons in hope of learning the "secrets" (thanks to National Treasure) You will never understand what is to be a Mason or what Masons do for the community where their Lodges are or the money that is raised for charities they support. I am proud to be a Mason And A Scottish Rite Mason.

Please dont take my opinions above as offensive. And do not take it personal, I do not single out Masons or anyone. I view any group that uses religion in ANY way as dangerous. This thread just happens to be about this particular group.

My personal beliefs simply put me at odds with anyone in any religious group.

If the group isnt religious,....Why cant they just leave out all the god stuff and just talk about stone cutting? Nope, one major requirement is to declare belief in supreme being"

Those of who value what neitzche taught us, no longer allow religion to dictate our actions, it is our Will we follow.

ps i never saw national Treasure

NS_Gorilla · 07-21-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Please dont take my opinions above as offensive. And do not take it personal, I do not single out Masons or anyone. I view any group that uses religion in ANY way as dangerous. This thread just happens to be about this particular group.

My personal beliefs simply put me at odds with anyone in any religious group.

If the group isnt religious,....Why cant they just leave out all the god stuff and just talk about stone cutting? Nope, one major requirement is to declare belief in supreme being"

Those of who value what neitzche taught us, no longer allow religion to dictate our actions, it is our Will we follow.

ps i never saw national Treasure

By no means am I taking offense. Every one has their right to their own opinion and believe what or who they want to belive in. This is the path that I have chosen and have no regrets. I am sure the other Masons like myself laugh at the comments and silliness that people come up with about Masons because they don't know what it is really all about.

Fletch XXX · 07-21-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NS_Gorilla

I am sure the other Masons like myself laugh at the comments and silliness that people come up with about Masons because they don't know what it is really all about.

My only problem with the group is the god stuff to be honest. I always thought a group like that sounded cool, but once I find out about the religous aspects, even if you claim its secular, I simply could never bow. And my beliefs are spot on with Neitzche when it comes to religion.

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Nietzsche believed there could be positive possibilities for humans without God. Relinquishing the belief in God opens the way for human creative abilities to fully develop. The Christian God, he wrote, would no longer stand in the way, so human beings might stop turning their eyes toward a supernatural realm and begin to acknowledge the value of this world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead

Once the Overman awakes in you, there is no turning back. And once you cross the line to believing in yourself more than god, the Will almost leads you along the path, even if along the left hand.

Twistys Tim · 07-21-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Once the Overman awakes in you, there is no turning back. And once you cross the line to believing in yourself more than god, the Will almost leads you along the path, even if along the left hand.

That is Satan taking control of you!!!!!!!!!!!

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LexiLexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vegas, Baby!!!! Posts: 2,510	wow, funny that this is brought up. My grandfather & grandmother, would take me to these meeting's I had no idea what all was going on, as I played around with the other kids. I know it was a big thing for them as they went every week and dressed up alot, I still don't know why they were members. Infact, it seemed like the rest of the family didn't mind that they went, so it is a good thing? No biggie, I just never figured out why they went and took me, lol.