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Old 07-25-2009, 05:44 PM   #51
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50 Obama complainer for nothing ... ) 0 Bush complainer for 4K+ useless deaths !

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Should someone be held at gun point to pay for a strangers health care?
Should someone be held at gun point to pay for a strangers war ?
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:49 PM   #52
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Yep. Show me car insurance that pays for tuneups. Same principle should apply to health insurance.

Taking this back to the original topic... Rick Perry's a tool of enormous proportions.
umm the very sad part is there are companies that are selling repair insurance. Of course it's a scam, but doesn't stop them for advertising on TV non stop. US fidelity is one of them
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:52 PM   #53
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Should someone be held at gun point to pay for a strangers war ?
I am against the war

I have lambasted Obama for dropping more troops in Afghanistan without an exit strategy. And bombing countries we are not at war with.

And to answer your question. NO.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:54 PM   #54
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umm the very sad part is there are companies that are selling repair insurance. Of course it's a scam, but doesn't stop them for advertising on TV non stop. US fidelity is one of them
There are many people selling scams, including plenty of politicians on both sides and the lobbying groups that support them.

And some governors like, oh, Rick Perry.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:07 PM   #55
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we allready are you really think we are not paying for people that cant afford it ?


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Old 07-25-2009, 06:11 PM   #56
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we allready are you really think we are not paying for people that cant afford it ?
thank you i didnt even feel like bothering, that argument is so stale its pathetic. Not only are we already paying for people, we are paying for births for all the immigrants who come here already pregnant and have no healthcare. There is million dollar (possibly more) industry based on bringing pregnant women from all over the world here to birth, including Asian countries, Russia and Arabs, and our central American friends.

We already paying, and the costs are causing hospitals to close, had 14 hospitals close in Cali while I lived there from the birth industry alone.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:43 PM   #57
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Of course not. Im not asking them to. There are other ways to fund and help those who can not pay than by the government doing it. Have faith in people like tony404 to fork up his money to help others without having the government make him do it. He is a good guy, I know he and millions of others would willingly give their money to hospitals in their area.

The hospitals could always find ways to fund those who can not pay. It is part of business.
So then you are asking them to put in place a fund raising mechanisim that will allow them to raise money like a non-profit. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that. most public hospitals are not for profit businesses anyway. But when you rely on donations you are almost always in a budget crisis. I have known several people in my life that worked for non-profits that worked only on donations and fund raising and all they ever talked about was having to hustle to get money. In the good times, things would work fine. But what about times like right now when people are scaling back. Most charities right now are feeling the squeeze. If the hospital doesn't get enough money from donations to keep running then what?

there is no easy answer to any of this. Maybe a combination of all of the above. Hell why not ask insurance companies that are making record profits right now to donate some of that money.
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I honestly cannot remember and I am not finding anything on Google...but isn't Texas one of the states that take more from the Treasury than they contribute?

I love that most of the red states take more money than they contribute, but they go on and on about being conservative.

If they want to have a leg to stand on, they should probably work out their own budgets to where they do not need Uncle Sam's bailouts...

In other news, has Texas seceded yet? If not, how can I help to ensure it does?
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I honestly cannot remember and I am not finding anything on Google...but isn't Texas one of the states that take more from the Treasury than they contribute?

I love that most of the red states take more money than they contribute, but they go on and on about being conservative.
right now in the news locally, they are talking about how texas is crying and moaning about people displaced from Hurricane katrina still in Houston area and demanding money per head from gov lol because states get $12k per citizen lol

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6546238.html

texas wants to secede but still wants Feds to give them 12k per citizen!!
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:08 PM   #60
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In other news, has Texas seceded yet? If not, how can I help to ensure it does?
I'm sure Mexico could help out with that one, if we made it worth their while.

People who are all ginned up on dumbass ideas like seceding from the union are usually pretty easy to manipulate.
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